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tran

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May 10, 2009
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Hi Abelkwh,

My wife's aunt lives in Calgary. I see Alberta has great potential in the future. Saskatchewan is another one. I keep my options(job or biz) open. I may ended up mowing lawn in the summer, and shoveling snow in the winter. Maybe even employed as a janitor or kitchen helper. ;D
 

abelkwh

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Jul 30, 2009
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hey Tran,

Likewise here man! I may have to work part time as yr co-worker in time to come!

we really have to meet up when we both land in calgary, i will be going there in June/ July then back to Shanghai again till end of Dec and officially move over.

What is the email address that u used most often, so that we can keep in touch from there man! Actually what do u plan to do there? I may have to change career and maybe take up some course or a program to have a new trade or skill man!

Do u or any one have any idea if there is any limit on the things we can bring in on subsequent entries, besides the first entry, where we have to declare if there is any goods following in to avoid the taxation. Can we bring in more stuff or will we be taxed if we enter the 2nd time as an entry for good.
 

mediajunkie

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Sep 2, 2009
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Hi tran and abel!

Glad to hear the news! If either one of you opens up a business in Calgary be sure to hire me 'cos i'm still looking for work, haha!

Tran, passport processing takes 1 week if you are a local living in Singapore. However if you show them your air ticket, processing can be as fast as 1-3 days. My aunt turned in her passport same time as me but she had to make a business trip to Hong Kong so she showed them her air ticket and she got her passport 2 days later. Make sure you call ahead to make an appointment.

Abel, with regards to the stuff you want to bring in, when you land you will be asked to fill out some forms - First one is "Goods Accompanying" which is the stuff you are bringing with you on the plane when you first land. The 2nd form is called "Goods to Follow" which is the stuff that will be shipped/mailed/brought on 2nd trip. If you are shipping stuff you will need to make copies of the "Goods to Follow" form for your carrier. Both these forms allow you to bring things in tax-free. However these are the only 2 chances that you get to bring things tax free so make sure you list everything.
 

tran

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May 10, 2009
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Hi mediajunkie,

Thanks for the valuable information. It looks like it's better for me to submit
my passport personally in Singapore as it's safer and faster.

Although I haven't received my passport request yet, it's better to be
prepared.
 

abelkwh

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Jul 30, 2009
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Hi Mediajunkie

Thanks for the valuable info on the goods part on filling in forms and chances we can bring goods in tax-free, it was really valuable info.

I am planning to land in Calgary in July or August latest and then return for 2nd trip later on.

How is yr job hunt in Toronto area. mediajunkie? R u seriously considering a job/ career change. I have been considering lately and i think i would have to change career or jobs in Canada after i land cause i have search thru job sites and found that there are very few jobs that fit my profile and my kind of job nature that i used to do in the financial sector, even lecturing positions seems to be limited or none! I am considering taking a Diploma in an area that would enable me to change career in the booming oil/ gas industry, and then be able to switch and change career after the Dip is done.

Furthermore, i have 2 local Canadians here with me now, one from Nova Scotia and another from Toronto, the one from NS works in marketing area in NS and he is lecturing here part time as well with the one from Toronto, with an MBA from UT, a finance person, he is also lecturing part time here, so u can imagine, how limited jobs are and how hard it is to find one, even for local canadians, yet they have fly all the way to China to work part time! The guy from Toronto (UT MBA) also told me that its really hard to break into the toronto job mkt unless u have very solid connections or network, especially for new immigrants like us. Another case was, I had an ex colleague from US, has an MBA from US, tried to find jobs in Toronto for 9 mths and couldnt break in and eventually went back to New York to find jobs.

What do u think, mediajunkie or Tran, do u think, re-training in a highly employable industry, would help yield better results in employment in canada?
 

mediajunkie

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Sep 2, 2009
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Abel,

When you "land" (the official process of completing the landing procedure) you will most likely be doing it at an international airport or land port, so it'll probably be at Vancouver since it's closer to Calgary. No point traveling all the way to Calgary if you don't plan on staying long, unless you are planning on doing something else like looking for a house, etc. which is hard to do in a week. I'm assuming that when you land in Calgary you will be visiting there first after you have completed the landing procedure.

You won't be issued your PR card on your first landing if you don't plan on staying in Canada. Unless you have a local address for them to mail it to in Calgary.

As for the job market, there just aren't many jobs out there right now as it is. It may improve in a year or two, but your friends are right, that it is harder for immigrants to find jobs, as I've been saying all along. Among all the people I know here I think almost everyone has had a different career before coming to Canada. Unless you are in the tech industry or healthcare (specifically nursing) - because that seems to be the main area that they are starving for people. Even if you find a job in your field, you could be a manager in Shanghai and end up as a entry-level worker here because of lack of Canadian experience. A lot of people start their own business. My dad's friend was an aeronautical engineer in Singapore and he's a real estate agent now. My friend's parents was a bank executive and owned an import-export business, but he sells volvos and she's a receptionist at a doctor's office now. My parents personally came here to retire, but they're not 60 yet and looking for some odd work here and there just to supplement their income. That's the reality for many immigrants, I'm not trying to be discouraging, but there are success stories and lucky breaks too. If you want to just settle in and expect to make a job with lots of money you might want to rethink the reasons for immigrating.

A lot of people also come here for a simpler life rather than opportunities. I see my friends doing OT everyday in Singapore and Hong Kong until almost midnight, here you knock off at 5pm sharp, get more vacation time, and probably get paid more than the same job in Singapore. Sure they tax more too, but you can also write off a lot of deductions when it comes to tax time. Healthcare is taken care of, and after age 65 you get pension benefits up to $1500 a month per person, meaning you don't need to save as much for old age.

Don't be worried, just get here and settle in first, but do come prepared for all possibilities as well and keep your options open. The reality may seem different for you.

When I was still in school I remember more than one professor or advisor telling me that in this age, a person is likely to change careers (not jobs) an average of 5 times in their lives. What may be employable today may not be 10 years from now, or it could be overcrowded. The oil/gas industry may be booming now but what will happen if all the resources are gone in 10 years? Anyway those industries would need people with business skills too. But it seems that area where the oil/gas industry needs people are in the form of manual workers and they are not in Calgary but further north beyond Edmonton and closer to Nunavut where all the oil fields are.

The most important thing is to find something you are happy and comfortable doing. I didn't like the stress from being a professor (the publishing part, not the teaching), and I personally want a simpler life. I'm actually thinking of opening a Tim Horton's or some other franchise and sitting back to take the profits sometime in the future once I get enough capital. When I was back in Singapore for 4 months I felt compelled to get the latest handphone, buy designer goods, buy a car - basically spend a lot of money. I just don't feel the need here because there's not so much peer pressure to "show off".

As for teaching jobs, it is a waiting game. Even in the US with 5000 universities, it is a waiting game. There are more Ph.D.s than there are jobs. Some work exclusively for private research, some start their own consultancies because there isn't that many jobs out there. Sometimes universities don't advertise their positions, some people write in to the respective departments to keep their resume on file in case something opens. Sometimes universities don't advertise on the job websites but rather in educational publications like the Chronicle of Higher Education.

Anyway the "Good Accompanying" and "Goods to Follow" form are available on the web so you can prepare it before landing instead of filling everything out one by one after 20+ hours of flying at the airport. You can probably google it, I forgot the exact link.
 

abelkwh

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Jul 30, 2009
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Thanks mediajunkie for the detail perspective on job prospects and career change. It really makes me feel better with the idea of job change after i land in Canada. In fact, i have changed industry twice already, i was in the financial sector, actually doing well then in SG and HK and decided that i was tired of the rat race and OTs so thats why i decided to move to China to work in training and lecturing jobs in China. But after spending more than 8 years in China, i am already so tired of the asian lifetsyle and thats why i have decided to move back to Canada, where i used to live, in Calgary.

I am just considering re-training after i land, cause i guess, finding a job within the first couple of mths would be tough and so i would rather spend the time on re-training and take up some courses to acquire some network and some local qualification so that it would enable and prepare me to be able to hook up some good job opportunities once i am done.

I was just looking at this website, http://www.immigrationpeel.ca/jobs/prospects/ and it does indicate some facts which coincides with the facts indicated in other research done by other major consulting firms and headhunting firms in canada. I would guess this site, does provide some accurate picture of those jobs in demand in, at least, the next five years. So i guess, if we intend to be re-employed such jobs would be those we should be targeting at. One of which, would be the nursing jobs that u mentioned and other would be those related to the vast resources of canada, such as minerals related or petroleum related industries.

As for landing, i would still be landing in calgary cause i intend to stay there for a month or two at least and then return again in Dec for good.

Did u mention that its Ok if we land and not consider it as a first landing and not get the PR card and then the goods that we bring in would not be considered as first landing?

Another part is, for the "goods following" would it include those that we would bring the 2nd trip and those that we can ship over or just either one, can it be both cause if we have lots of stuff to bring and send over then it may be insufficient if we are allowed just to bring or ship and not both.

Thanks
 

mediajunkie

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Sep 2, 2009
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For the "Goods to Follow" I think they all have to come in one shipment. I'm not sure because I didn't bring anything with me after I landed, all my stuff was already in Canada. Maybe ask one of the seniors in the forums. My parents brought all their furniture from Singapore by shipping them in one container and it was less than $2000 but it took a couple of months to arrive.

Re-training is fine, just make sure that you have the finances to cover the time you are spending in school. As a PR you will qualify for financial aid, which is basically student loans to cover school fees. If you are lucky you can get some grants for a couple of thousand dollars here and there.

I was seriously considering taking up nursing - it's not just taking care of patients, there's also administration and lab work and policy and IT involved in a nursing degree. But I don't have Year 12 Biology and Chemistry (I guess it would be A-levels) so it's gonna be hard to get into a degree program. My dad told me that when he was in the Philippines there were all these colleges that churned out nurses. And all these nurses would later migrate easily to the US or Canada because they were in such high demand. Same goes with nurses from the Carribbean, that's why most of the nurses you see here are either Filippino or West-Indian. I was thinking about law-school since lawyers are in need as well, but a bit sick of studying.

Really considering working in a Tim Hortons - free meals, dental and medical benefits, flexible hours, low commute - and about $12 an hour is almost $2000 a month. A bit tired of looking for jobs that require a long application and interview process. If I were a citizen maybe I would join the military. Of course my parents are nagging at me not to waste my education, but it's hard to explain to them that I'm not happy, that's why gotta keep looking.
 

abelkwh

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Jul 30, 2009
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Hi Mediajukie

Actually there are some programs such as the ones listed in this link, where u can undertake a Dip and then plunge directly to the Health care industry, why not take a look at similar colleges or polytechnics like this and then u can part time work and part time study for a Dip for better job prospects in the area that u fancy or like.

Link: http://sait.ca/pages/about/organization/departmentlistings/health/programs.shtml#fulltime

This is actually what i intend to do, to take a course in such a polytechnic institute and then get re-employed as a skilled technican or something after completing the program. It is not costly and also time efficient, as its only 2 yrs and allows us time to work part time as well, since we are already PRs and have no restriction on work hours.

Salary wise for graduates in such polytechnics seems reasonable good and its not like inferior to a bachleors in terms of employability and job prospects.

Something worth taking a look, for yr information.
 

mediajunkie

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Sep 2, 2009
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Yeah but I'm more for taking a degree rather than a diploma program. That is because certain provinces, including Ontario, require nurses to have a 4-year bachelors degree. So does California, where I one day dream of going. But I'll look into it, I guess.
 

abelkwh

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Jul 30, 2009
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U can actually enter the Dip program, then transfer from there to a degree program or enter the Dip program, complete it then work, acquire some practical experience then work on part time degree or full time later, right?

I think that is a more viable route rather than enter directly into a degree program. As for me, i plan to do that, cause i dont want my savings to dry up just working a bachelors degree without some practical experience in that area. A bachelors can be done part time later on or full time after acquiring some practical relevant experience.

Just a thought of mine to consider. ;-)
 

mediajunkie

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Sep 2, 2009
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those programs also require year 12 biology, I have O-level pure bio, i don't know if it qualifies. I really don't want to go take high school biology again. I haven't bothered to look much into it, my parents are still pretty adamant about me wasting all those years studying for my doctorate. It's hard having to deal with them sometimes.
 

abelkwh

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Jul 30, 2009
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Hi Media

I know what u mean, parents may not understand what we want or whats on our minds. But its all about career choices, sometimes, we just have to do what we like or what we are compelled to do under certain cirumstances. As in this case, the canadian job market is as such. As for myself, i would rather not have to change career, stick to lecturing or in the financial services, where i am most comfortable with but given the cirumstances, seems like i have no choice but to try to break new grounds and try something which is more of a demand or one which renders us greater chance of success in the job market over there.

Perhaps, u can just explain to them whats happening and just pray that they understand.
 

mediajunkie

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Sep 2, 2009
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My parents both worked for the same bank for over 35 years before they came to Canada, it's hard for them to understand that now things have changed. They cannot understand why I just don't pick a job and stick with it through all the good and bad.

I think your field is more marketable than mine, and you really should try headhunters if you are looking for jobs in your field instead of retraining.
 

abelkwh

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I will try to link up with headhunters when i land in Calgary in July and then also proceed with the plan to enroll in a retraining program cause i dont think its easy for me to find a position that is so readily available in Hk or SG cause my area in the financial sector is also very specialised, cause i used to work for a hedge fund as a fund trader and investment bank in equities sales & trading. As canada will be a new market for me, it will be hard for me to find such specialised positions and also i would have to start from fresh, like u mentioned, even if i find one as its a new market for me. I will, of course, take up licensing in my area of expertise and try to hook up some positions if any exist but i really have doubts. At the same time, i also trying to find a new area to move into, cause i am a little tired of the financial sector and no longer as young as before, which is why i am looking to be re-trained.

I know what u mean by yr parents, they belong to that generation where life-long employment for one firm is an ideal way to work but its no longer such a case in this present economy and environment, especially for us, new immigrants to a land where we were born and raised. I have studied and worked as part time in calgary before many years back in the 90s but i doubt that will help either. Thats why i am mentally prepared to be re-trained and re-educated to the level which is required of me in this new land.

Really just hope we get what we enjoy and fight till the very end! ;-)