Should one day trip to USA be declared in the online calculator ?

[jcyj]

Hi,

For the old ruler (3/4), daily trip to US should be declared or not? For the new ruler, the instructions said it should be declared!

 

[Ojeola]

Hi,

For the old ruler (3/4), daily trip to US should be declared or not? For the new ruler, the instructions said it should be declared!

Based on the OLD rule, they specifically mentioned that same day trips DO NOT have to be declared. FYI same day trips don't count towards the residency requirement.

 

[jcyj]

Based on the OLD rule, they specifically mentioned that same day trips DO NOT have to be declared. FYI same day trips don't count towards the residency requirement.

Exactly, that's also what I noted from the CIC website. But now under the new rule(4/6), this kind of trip should be declared even it does't count in the residency time!

 

[dpenabill]

Hi,

For the old ruler (3/4), daily trip to US should be declared or not? For the new ruler, the instructions said it should be declared!

Exactly, that's also what I noted from the CIC website. But now under the new rule(4/6), this kind of trip should be declared even it does't count in the residency time!

The current online "physical presence calculator" instructions (no longer a "residency" calculator) and the FAQs do indeed specify that all trips outside Canada must be declared, even if the applicant came back to Canada the same day.

This is different from the instructions for the "online residency calculator" which was used to determine residency pursuant to the 3/4 rule.

For several years the RQ form also specifically instructed applicants to declare "day trips."

But older RQ forms did not specify that the applicant needed to declare day trips.

For routinely processed applications, under the old requirements, not having declared day trips was irrelevant.

For RQ'd applicants, day trips were sometimes the focus of concern, looked at as if they were undeclared absences raising doubts about whether the applicant fully declared all absences -- this happened even to applicants whose RQ form did not ask for day trips.

Your query is phrased as if to ask what to declare for the 3/4 rule currently. The only circumstance in which this would arise is RQ, and the last version of RQ I have seen does indeed instruct that day trips are to be declared.

For those who submitted a complete application that arrived at CIC by June 10, not declaring day trips in the online residency calculator should not cause a problem . . . but of course if RQ is received, then day trips will need to be provided in response to the RQ.

If you posted your query to confirm the instructions about declaring absences have changed: yes, they have changed. Yes, going forward clearly CIC requires the applicant to declare all trips abroad, whether for minutes or days or longer.

And yes, for some people this adds up to a lot of work.

 

[jcyj]

The current online "physical presence calculator" instructions (no longer a "residency" calculator) and the FAQs do indeed specify that all trips outside Canada must be declared, even if the applicant came back to Canada the same day.

This is different from the instructions for the "online residency calculator" which was used to determine residency pursuant to the 3/4 rule.

For several years the RQ form also specifically instructed applicants to declare "day trips."

But older RQ forms did not specify that the applicant needed to declare day trips.

For routinely processed applications, under the old requirements, not having declared day trips was irrelevant.

For RQ'd applicants, day trips were sometimes the focus of concern, looked at as if they were undeclared absences raising doubts about whether the applicant fully declared all absences -- this happened even to applicants whose RQ form did not ask for day trips.

Your query is phrased as if to ask what to declare for the 3/4 rule currently. The only circumstance in which this would arise is RQ, and the last version of RQ I have seen does indeed instruct that day trips are to be declared.

For those who submitted a complete application that arrived at CIC by June 10, not declaring day trips in the online residency calculator should not cause a problem . . . but of course if RQ is received, then day trips will need to be provided in response to the RQ.

If you posted your query to confirm the instructions about declaring absences have changed: yes, they have changed. Yes, going forward clearly CIC requires the applicant to declare all trips abroad, whether for minutes or days or longer.

And yes, for some people this adds up to a lot of work.

Thank you very much for so detail information about my question, I think now it's clear now for all of us who have doubt about this question. I have this question when I read the new rule about daily trip. For a routine process of old rule applicant, does CIC ask each time a CBSA report or not ?