I have completed my 1095 days . I was advised by my friend don't apply for citizenship when one elder children studying in canada & my two children are studying in home country as he applied in 2011 & RQ in 2012 but still no good news. My two younger are coming in Aug 2014 so I should apply after some time or now ? I will not apply citizenship for my children if I apply now.
Should I apply for citizenship without children
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At last Iam going to apply my citizenship on 8th December Details are as below
landed in 2011
Family back to home country
I lived here & total 49 days away during last 3 years
Employment since July 2012.
Now my all family back including three children got admission in Mississauga attaching their proof of education from Home country & Last early report card from Mississauga .
Total days 1195 after 49 days
Sending Msc Degree with university letter that course was in English
Work records ( still not decide weather to send or not at the time no requirement )
Any Suggestion
Dear friends I know that it may be trigger to RQ as my family was not here but what I think if I apply 3 years later then detail of children education still show their presence in home country from 2011 to 2014 as rule will be four years out of six years so detail will consist on six year activities. Same risk will be at that time .After a lot of suggestions from my friends & from Canada visa forum I decide to apply alone .wish you all good luck
landed in 2011
Family back to home country
I lived here & total 49 days away during last 3 years
Employment since July 2012.
Now my all family back including three children got admission in Mississauga attaching their proof of education from Home country & Last early report card from Mississauga .
Total days 1195 after 49 days
Sending Msc Degree with university letter that course was in English
Work records ( still not decide weather to send or not at the time no requirement )
Any Suggestion
Dear friends I know that it may be trigger to RQ as my family was not here but what I think if I apply 3 years later then detail of children education still show their presence in home country from 2011 to 2014 as rule will be four years out of six years so detail will consist on six year activities. Same risk will be at that time .After a lot of suggestions from my friends & from Canada visa forum I decide to apply alone .wish you all good luck
I'm curious if this is absolutely established. If children are PRs and under 14, they don't have to sign application, etc. Nor take the test. Nor meet the residency requirement. Can they not be included on an application?PMM said:
Finally, ar_fabrics, if you indeed cannot apply with all children at once, why not at least include your older child? It's better to get your children the protections of Canadian citizenship sooner rather than later. Why delay those protections unnecessarily for the older child?
Thanks for concern . Dear ages of my children are 17.5 year 14.4 year 10.2 year. Will consider your suggestion .
Ar_fabrics, please let us know what you find out about whether you can apply for your children abroad. I highly recommend contacting a settlement agency or lawyer to clarify this.
And I (again) highly recommend applying for your child who is a resident. The risk for delay in your own application is extremely slight. From what I see, many seem to consider it to be the wife's responsibility to ensure the citizenship of the children by making the family application, but it's really worthwhile to ensure that you provide your children the protection of citizenship sooner rather than later. What if your wife doesn't apply? What if your wife doesn't return to Canada? What if your children lose their PR status?
Here are some of the protections that citizenship provides over PR for your resident child: God forbid: A child turns 18 gets in legal trouble. Yes, none of our children would never do such a thing, but young people make mistakes. It happens. The question is whether the child will be able to triumph over such a challenge or will end up deported. A child uses a fake ID to get into a bar. A child is mixed up with the wrong friends and is in the car when there's a hit and run or drunk driving or someone steals something or (God forbid) hurts someone. If the charge is serious enough, the child could lose their PR status and be deported. And then they are delayed or barred from re-sponsorship due to criminality. Citizenship would have avoided this problem.
Another reason: A child decides to study abroad and gets a great opportunity to stay for an extra year. Do field work. Research with a renowned professor. Learn another language. This puts them in violation of their residency obligation and they lose their PR the next time they try to return to Canada. Applying sooner, rather than later, for citizenship could have avoided this.
Another reason: Your child's classmates go on a study trip to the US, but your child's passport is from a country that doesn't have good relations with the US and the child can't get the visitor visa. Not a huge deal, but a lost opportunity.
The reasons not to apply for your children are that it *might* make things easier for you personally. The reasons to apply for your children are a lot more serious. Giving your child the protection of Canadian citizenship is a huge thing. It's real. On the pros vs. cons list, providing protection for ones children (as a parent who's clearly concerned about their children and wants the best for them) should rank pretty high, especially when the risk or downside to one's own case is so slight.
And I (again) highly recommend applying for your child who is a resident. The risk for delay in your own application is extremely slight. From what I see, many seem to consider it to be the wife's responsibility to ensure the citizenship of the children by making the family application, but it's really worthwhile to ensure that you provide your children the protection of citizenship sooner rather than later. What if your wife doesn't apply? What if your wife doesn't return to Canada? What if your children lose their PR status?
Here are some of the protections that citizenship provides over PR for your resident child: God forbid: A child turns 18 gets in legal trouble. Yes, none of our children would never do such a thing, but young people make mistakes. It happens. The question is whether the child will be able to triumph over such a challenge or will end up deported. A child uses a fake ID to get into a bar. A child is mixed up with the wrong friends and is in the car when there's a hit and run or drunk driving or someone steals something or (God forbid) hurts someone. If the charge is serious enough, the child could lose their PR status and be deported. And then they are delayed or barred from re-sponsorship due to criminality. Citizenship would have avoided this problem.
Another reason: A child decides to study abroad and gets a great opportunity to stay for an extra year. Do field work. Research with a renowned professor. Learn another language. This puts them in violation of their residency obligation and they lose their PR the next time they try to return to Canada. Applying sooner, rather than later, for citizenship could have avoided this.
Another reason: Your child's classmates go on a study trip to the US, but your child's passport is from a country that doesn't have good relations with the US and the child can't get the visitor visa. Not a huge deal, but a lost opportunity.
The reasons not to apply for your children are that it *might* make things easier for you personally. The reasons to apply for your children are a lot more serious. Giving your child the protection of Canadian citizenship is a huge thing. It's real. On the pros vs. cons list, providing protection for ones children (as a parent who's clearly concerned about their children and wants the best for them) should rank pretty high, especially when the risk or downside to one's own case is so slight.
Thanks Eileenf your valueable points but Today I contacted with immigration lawer according to him I can apply for my children but it is better to apply alone .
You will have to provide your children's education history regardless of you applying alone or with them (CIT0002E Form, Question 6-G - Minor children's education history in the last 4 years). In addition, as per the Document Checklist requirement (last page of the application form CIT0002E) you will have to send the following document with your application: Photocopies of school records for any minor children. Failure to provide it will result in the return of your application. CIC has been notorious for having returned many applications because of lacking school records. So, unless you make a false declaration about the very existence of your kids, you will have to disclose the school records anyway. Do you understand?! What are you gaining then from depriving your children of the chance for Canadian citizenship?ar_fabrics said:
It's also worth noting that if the elder child's application is not made before they turn 18, they will have to meet the (new) residency requirement, which will mean waiting until they have lived here for at least 4 out of the last 6 years.