Schedule 3 (point 11-work exp.)...aanban/rupeshhari/pmm/leon...pls pay attention

[rajnik1976]

Dear Seniors & other members,

Right now I am filling my application to be sent to Nova Scotia. I have just seem to be stuck with a question no. 11 (work experience) in schedule 3 form.

I am applying under NOC-4131. I have worked with a College as a Lecturer on temporary basis from Aug99 to Feb2000 AND Aug2000 to March2001 so you see it was not continous employment, I have a break in-between for nearly 5 months but I have managed to get a work experience letter from the College where they have mentioned I have worked with them for two academic sessions 1999-2000 & 2000-2001.

Now my question is what should I write in Schedule 3 - point 11 (work experience), since I have to write the year & month when I started my job as a Lecturer?

Also, do you see with this experience letter I would be able to succeed?

Incase I get appproval from Nova Soctia, how will be my chances with CHC - New Delhi?

I would appreciate your comments.

 

[AkkDivz]

if i were you , i would put Aug 99 to Mar 2001 in ques 11 of schedule 3..

that is the only way you will be able to get it approved by the CIO.

Especially since you have your experience letter from the college stating that you worked there for 2 annual academic sessions.

Your main bottle neck would be during sending in the full application to ND .. The refernce letter from your college will have to state the time period during which you worked there along with main duties..

 

[PankajK]

Hi rajnik1976,

I have read your other posts also, see you have managed to get "another" experience letter from your college which is a good thing,

can you tell us what exactly is written on your experience letter.

option 1" if it only says "two academic sessions 1999-2000 & 2000-2001." then you seems to be fine

OR

option 2: if it says "College as a Lecturer on temporary basis from Aug99 to Feb2000 AND Aug2000 to March2001" which also is two session but it doen't say it is countinuous.

So in my view if you have the option 1 experience letter. then its good and you only have to fill it as one job experience showing experience as more then a year.

Hope it helps

Pankaj

 

[aanbaan]

Re: Schedule 3 (point 11-work exp.)...aanban/rupeshhari/pmm/leon...pls pay atten

@rajnik - left a PM for you.. check it out... pls keep it's contents to yourself

 

[New2Canada]

Let us all encourage misrepresentation to CIC. This is what will make Canada great when we land there.

While we are at it, we should tell him to write January 1999 to December 2001, he could get 3 years of experience and more points.

 

[rupeshhari]

New2Canada has a point. If they catch you misrepresenting yourself, they may put a check against your name for future applications. I don't know how these things work.

 

[rely]

One can write whatever a person wants (if he /she intends to fool) but in all likelihood if visa officer is not satisfied he will refuse visa.One has to support claim by providing adequate supporting documentary evidences.Here in this case it is already inconclusive, visa officer will be looking for few more documents which justifies job from Jan 99 to dec 2001 eg salary slips for all these months issued by concerned authorities,bank transaction statements denoting each salary transactions,IT returns.Form 16, other college documents like college events ,brochure , seminars ,functions and involvement of other activties which covers this entire claim period and involvement of applicant.If this is NOT the case then a person is likely to get a lovely letter which reads like this

"Since you did not provide adequate evidence that you have at least one year of work experience in the listed occupation,you do not meet the requirements of the Ministerial Instructions and your application is not eligible for processing"
rely

Let us all encourage misrepresentation to CIC. This is what will make Canada great when we land there.

While we are at it, we should tell him to write January 1999 to December 2001, he could get 3 years of experience and more points.

 

[New2Canada]

rely - good point.

This type of misrepresentation if willfully done and if it happens from one country more than others, will increase CIC's scrutiny on applicants from that country and then everyone in that country will say that they are being discriminated.

I want to leave my homeland because of the amount of corruption that happens there. It looks like future Canadians are encouraging this type of corruption/fraud. It is disappointing.

 

[rupeshhari]

Rajnik1976 has not done any fraud. He is asking for advice so that he doesn't misrepresent himself. Let us not assume that he is doing something wrong.

 

[New2Canada]

Rupeshari - You are correct, Rajnik has not said anything wrong. There are three people who may be urging him on to commit fraud through misrepresentation. Is this the Canada that you want?

 

[rajnik1976]

All I have to say is, this thread is now being irrelevant.

I am disappointed because many fellow friends think I am going to misrepresent something.

@ New2canada, rely:

# 1: Guys, I have more than 8 years of work experience as a Secondary teacher NOC-4141 and I am still employed in this profession so I do not need to claim anything which I don't need. The maximum point you get for over 4 years experience so I have already crossed this barrier.

# 2: I have worked with the college for more than 16 months but there was a little GAP in-between which is my main concern.

How can you say I am misrepresenting something, if you do not know.....pls don't presume if you don't know.

We all here want to move to Canada because we have our own reasons, corruption is certainly one of the biggest reason. No one here encouraging fraud/corrpution......Did I offer bribe to you or other members in this forum? if not - how can you say such a word Courrpution? Come on man get a life.....we are all here to help each other and I am just seeking opinions....if you don't have one then ignore but don't put such allegations on any one. This is pathetic and I really sorry for you.

 

[AkkDivz]

Well said rajni!

Guys, The emphasis on integrity and your views on (mis)representation maybe valid and is appreciated.

However, the purpose of the thread is to answer Rajnik`s question with an opinion of your own (either with a solution or no way out).

Being judgemental about other`s intentions is the last thing we want to have on this thread.

We are here to help each other if we can and not cling mud.

If you have a point to make which you firmly believe in, i think the best is to make that point without alleging and preaching too much philosophy.

lets get objective folks..Everyone here is chasing a dream for their own reason ..

 

[New2Canada]

First of all, you should read my last message above.

Secondly, No one is saying that you are claiming wrong number of experience for points sake. My problem is with everyone encouraging you not to mention your months of employment for the ministerial criteria job (not 4141).

Thirdly, I did correct myself after what Rupeshhari said. If you do not tell CIC that you had a 5month gap then you are misrepresenting yourself. CIC clearly says continuous 1 year employment and 5 months out of a 12 month period is 42%.

We all want to move to Canada but not through misrepresentation. If you think the only way to corruption is through bribe then you have it completely wrong. One can be corrupt without giving a bribe. Misrepresentation is a form of corruption. I agree we are here to help each other but we should not be telling each other to misrepresent our history in order to get into Canada. I do have an opinion. If you can't handle my opinion, then ignore it. You call me pathetic for telling others not to tell you to misrepresent yourself, I think that speaks a lot about you. I guess if I tell them to help you misrepresent yourself then you will think I am not pathetic.

 

[New2Canada]

if i were you , i would put Aug 99 to Mar 2001 in ques 11 of schedule 3..

Of course you said, "well said Rajni!". Your statement above is a clear example of you telling him to misrepresent his history.

You sas we should answer Rajnik with our opinion but then you think my opinion that we should not misrepresent ourselves is wrong.

We should not chase our dreams through fraud. This is not what we need in Canada. Misrepresentation is a form of fraud.

 

[AkkDivz]

New2c dude, whatever you just mentioned above was perfect ! And i am not questioning your stand on this topic.

The point is you could have just stopped saying in your first reply that what i suggested would amount to misrepresentation.

But you chose to ramble aimlessly towards why you are leaving your homeland and subjecting us to your tormenting
philosophy.

If i wasnt clear on my last message , here it is again:

" Objectivity is the name of the game here. Be objective when proposing solutions, not offensive or judgemental".

this probably is my last message one to one with you on this topic as this debate aint serving the purpose of the

original post!