Revoking spousal sponsorship

[drewsullivan1986]

Hi all,
im English and married my wife last January. She now wants a divorce. My PR hasn’t come through yet but my work visa has. My PR is all but processed they were just waiting on the background check. Her family are now doing anything to make me leave voluntarily.
I have a life set up here as want to stay in Canada. What are my options and what can I do.

 

[scylla]

Hi all,
im English and married my wife last January. She now wants a divorce. My PR hasn’t come through yet but my work visa has. My PR is all but processed they were just waiting on the background check. Her family are now doing anything to make me leave voluntarily.
I have a life set up here as want to stay in Canada. What are my options and what can I do.

They can't make you leave Canada. Only IRCC / CBSA can make you leave.

However your wife 100% has the right to withdraw the spousal sponsorship application at any point in the process right up until landing.

In terms of your options for remaining in Canada, you can obviously no longer rely on spousal sponsorship. You will have to find your own path to remainig in Canada either temporarily or permanently, by applying for PR through an economic immigration stream like Express Entry.

Do you hold a valid open work permit? When does this expire? You can certainly continue living and working in Canada while the OWP is still valid.

 

[Kaibigan]

Excuse my curiosity, but was this a marriage of convenience from the outset? One gets that impression, i.e., that she agreed to marriage to sponsor you and now she wants a divorce a bit sooner than expected.

Are you living with her? If not, did you ever? If the divorce was not pre-planned, it seems very strange that a January marriage is ripe for divorce in November. Further, you express no upset or disappointment in the apparent loss of a marital relationship, only that you want no interference with your life in Canada which, it would seem, never included a wife.

 

[drewsullivan1986]

I’m absolutely devastated about it we have been living together for a whole year. I do not want the divorce we both just haven’t been able to cope with the pressure of me not being able to generate income. Until just now. I am very much in love with her still and I’m trying to hold myself together.
She is adamant that she wants divorce so what else can I do?
I cannot force someone to love me back

I just want to know if I was going to be forced out of the country straight away etc. I’m terrified.
I would do anything to have my wife and family back. I can assure you that I wouldn’t have gone through this hell this year if it was just a residency.

I’ve managed to turn the person I love against me because of my actions and the fact that my lack of work routine and drive has added to stresses causing the relationship to crumble

I hope this clears things up for you

 

[Flyingfast]

Excuse my curiosity, but was this a marriage of convenience from the outset? One gets that impression, i.e., that she agreed to marriage to sponsor you and now she wants a divorce a bit sooner than expected.

Are you living with her? If not, did you ever? If the divorce was not pre-planned, it seems very strange that a January marriage is ripe for divorce in November. Further, you express no upset or disappointment in the apparent loss of a marital relationship, only that you want no interference with your life in Canada which, it would seem, never included a wife.

I didn't get the impression it was a marriage of convenience. Is yours? People change their minds for any number of reasons. This person cannot control what someone else has chosen to do. I can certainly understand why he wants to stay in Canada after moving and starting a new life.

 

[Flyingfast]

I’m absolutely devastated about it we have been living together for a whole year. I do not want the divorce we both just haven’t been able to cope with the pressure of me not being able to generate income. Until just now. I am very much in love with her still and I’m trying to hold myself together.
She is adamant that she wants divorce so what else can I do?
I cannot force someone to love me back

I just want to know if I was going to be forced out of the country straight away etc. I’m terrified.
I would do anything to have my wife and family back. I can assure you that I wouldn’t have gone through this hell this year if it was just a residency.

I’ve managed to turn the person I love against me because of my actions and the fact that my lack of work routine and drive has added to stresses causing the relationship to crumble

I hope this clears things up for you

You don't need to clear anything up and you certainly don't owe Kaibigan or anyone else here an explanation.

 

[Kaibigan]

@Flyingfast , I certainly never hinted that I was owed anything. Nonsense to allude to such a ridiculous proposition. Nevertheless, I asked a fair question if the poster cares to share.

Sure, people change their minds about things. But marriage and sponsoring a spouse to another country are generally things taken quite seriously by mature, intelligent adults. For someone to have embarked on those particular endeavours, then to do an about face and seek to resile from both, all within a very short span of time, suggests something is seriously amiss.

 

[Copingwithlife]

@Flyingfast , I certainly never hinted that I was owed anything. Nonsense to allude to such a ridiculous proposition. Nevertheless, I asked a fair question if the poster cares to share.

Sure, people change their minds about things. But marriage and sponsoring a spouse to another country are generally things taken quite seriously by mature, intelligent adults. For someone to have embarked on those particular endeavours, then to do an about face and seek to resile from both, all within a very short span of time, suggests something is seriously amiss.

It is what it is . People are allowed to change their mind . It’s better to do it now right out of the gate , versus doing the sponsorship out of the feeling of obligation.
They are sponsoring an individual with legal responsibilities, not signing up for a gym membership . Cut the cord sooner than later.
One must never want to feel forced

 

[Kaibigan]

I’m absolutely devastated about it we have been living together for a whole year. I do not want the divorce we both just haven’t been able to cope with the pressure of me not being able to generate income. Until just now. I am very much in love with her still and I’m trying to hold myself together.
She is adamant that she wants divorce so what else can I do?
I cannot force someone to love me back

I just want to know if I was going to be forced out of the country straight away etc. I’m terrified.
I would do anything to have my wife and family back. I can assure you that I wouldn’t have gone through this hell this year if it was just a residency.

I’ve managed to turn the person I love against me because of my actions and the fact that my lack of work routine and drive has added to stresses causing the relationship to crumble

I hope this clears things up for you

Your reply showed up while I was responding to Flyingfast. Or maybe it was there and I missed it.

Anyway, thank you for your heartfelt and candid reply. It speaks volumes and earns my complete sympathy. It removes for me any doubt as to your own bona fides. Again, not that you have to convince me or anyone else on this forum as to your intentions, I find myself more inclined to help those who really deserve it. You are one of those. Not that I am in a position to really do anything for you.

Perhaps you can appeal to your wife's sense of decency and fair play. It's enough for her to announce that she no longer wants to be your wife. That would hurt plenty in and of itself. But to compound it by saying she wants to pull the plug on sponsorship at the same time, is a double blow. You get disappointed in love and have to give up plans for life here as well? Seems a bit harsh. She should, at least, agree to a period of separation and give you time to get your ducks in a row as a new resident here. Things might look different for both of you a few months or so from now.

Another consideration is that, as a practical matter, she cannot commence divorce proceedings until you have been separated for at least one year. That date lies some distance in the future. Why must she seek to upset the applecart now? And what does your presence here have to do with her family? If you remain here, why should they care? I think Canada is big enough to accommodate you and them, without being in each other's way.

 

[Copingwithlife]

Your reply showed up while I was responding to Flyingfast. Or maybe it was there and I missed it.

Anyway, thank you for your heartfelt and candid reply. It speaks volumes and earns my complete sympathy. It removes for me any doubt as to your own bona fides. Again, not that you have to convince me or anyone else on this forum as to your intentions, I find myself more inclined to help those who really deserve it. You are one of those. Not that I am in a position to really do anything for you.

Perhaps you can appeal to your wife's sense of decency and fair play. It's enough for her to announce that she no longer wants to be your wife. That would hurt plenty in and of itself. But to compound it by saying she wants to pull the plug on sponsorship at the same time, is a double blow. You get disappointed in love and have to give up plans for life here as well? Seems a bit harsh. She should, at least, agree to a period of separation and give you time to get your ducks in a row as a new resident here. Things might look different for both of you a few months or so from now.

Another consideration is that, as a practical matter, she cannot commence divorce proceedings until you have been separated for at least one year. That date lies some distance in the future. Why must she seek to upset the applecart now? And what does your presence here have to do with her family? If you remain here, why should they care? I think Canada is big enough to accommodate you and them, without being in each other's way.

Can’t even begin to respond to this .
“ Upset the apple cart ?” Seriously ? She’s within her legal right to end the sponsorship and seek a divorce . We’re hearing only one side of the story . Plus it’s misrepresenting there relationship to the IRCC if she continues the sponsorship solely to allow the individual to get PR .
And that is what you’re implying. That she lies in regards to sponsoring the person . Good grief it’s 2023 . It’s her life , her choice if she wants to divorce .
You’re suggesting that she enters into a marriage of convenience solely to allow the individual to remain .
It’s mind blowing what people write

“In some cases, sponsors and foreign applicants enter a “relationship of convenience”. This is a marriage, or a common-law or conjugal relationship, the sole purpose of which is to let the sponsored spouse or partner immigrate to Canada.”

 

[Kaibigan]

And I cannot begin to respond to your spurious conclusion that the wife ought to move with alacrity to call off the PR application.

If there was a scintilla of legitimacy to this marriage, then it would not be wrong at all to expect the wife to give it a chance to survive instead of making haste to terminate it through divorce. That could be driven by an emotional response to a stressor that just might pass.

I am in no way implying an indulgence in misrepresentation. Did I not say:

She should, at least, agree to a period of separation and give you time to get your ducks in a row as a new resident here. Things might look different for both of you a few months or so from now.

You, on the other hand, seem to be implying that in spousal sponsorship cases, if the spouses get into an argument, the sponsor must forthwith get on the blower to the IRCC and tell them the marriage is on the rocks and sponsorship is being summarily withdrawn. You suggest that anything less is tantamount to misrepresentation.

 

[Copingwithlife]

And I cannot begin to respond to your spurious conclusion that the wife ought to move with alacrity to call off the PR application.

If there was a scintilla of legitimacy to this marriage, then it would not be wrong at all to expect the wife to give it a chance to survive instead of making haste to terminate it through divorce. That could be driven by an emotional response to a stressor that just might pass.

I am in no way implying an indulgence in misrepresentation. Did I not say:

She should, at least, agree to a period of separation and give you time to get your ducks in a row as a new resident here. Things might look different for both of you a few months or so from now.

You, on the other hand, seem to be implying that in spousal sponsorship cases, if the spouses get into an argument, the sponsor must forthwith get on the blower to the IRCC and tell them the marriage is on the rocks and sponsorship is being summarily withdrawn. You suggest that anything less is tantamount to misrepresentation.

Good Lord

 

[Kaibigan]

^may He help you.

And, of course we are hearing only one side of the story. That's the norm here. Those who respond to comments here do so on the basis that the poster is doing their best to give an accurate portrayal of facts.

 

[scylla]

Perhaps you can appeal to your wife's sense of decency and fair play. It's enough for her to announce that she no longer wants to be your wife. That would hurt plenty in and of itself. But to compound it by saying she wants to pull the plug on sponsorship at the same time, is a double blow. You get disappointed in love and have to give up plans for life here as well? Seems a bit harsh. She should, at least, agree to a period of separation and give you time to get your ducks in a row as a new resident here. Things might look different for both of you a few months or so from now.

Sorry, need to completely disagree with you here. The wife's actions aren't harsh at all if the relationship is or has fallen apart. The logical and common sense thing to do is to withdraw the application. This is what most of us here would advise the wife to do given the circumstances. If the relationship has essentially ended, then she absolutely should withdraw to make sure she doesn't end up in a situation where she is financially responsible for the applicant for 3 years after landing. Makes zero sense to open herself up to this kind of financial risk. If they reconcile, she can always sponsor him again.

I certainly sympathize with the OP. It's a super tough situation. But the wife is not in the wrong here if the relationship has fallen apart and they have separated. She is 100% doing the right thing by withdrawing her sponsorship. Continuing with the sponsorship if they are no longer together is technically misrepresentation and a bad decision from a personal financial perspective.

 

[Copingwithlife]

^may He help you.

Maybe help you with your grammar first