Renewing an expired PR card, currently meet RO, but there was a gap before

[dtonberry]

Hi! I found this forum and the info here has been great. I have some questions that I think I have the answer to but wanted to doublecheck everything I can.

- I sponsored my wife and her daughter for PR and they got their PR cards about 12 yrs ago.
- My stepdaughter moved back to US shortly after that to live with birth dad. Her PR card expired about 7 years ago and wasn't renewed.
- She came to Canada 2 years ago to visit us. She had a return plane ticket, the border agent wanted to see (and we showed) before waving us thru, but then covid spiked again and she never went back. The ticket was non-refundable so we just ate the cost.
- She lives with us now and is no longer a minor, and we want to renew her PR card.
- She's been in Canada for over 730 days during the last 5 years, but at the time she flew up here 2 years ago she had not.
- Her mom is now a Canadian citizen.

As far as we know, her PR status has never been removed or investigated. We never got any correspondence from immigration. Her healthcare card & SIN work. She went to our family doctor just a couple weeks ago with no trouble. She's had a working bank account most of the last two years. So based on everything we've read, we don't think there will be problems renewing her card.

So I guess my questions are
1. Are we missing anything that would put her status or renewal at risk?
2. Does immigration actually only care about the most recent 5 years, or are they supposed to look further if there was a gap prior? I mean they can already see her dates of entry & exit right?
3. Is her change of plans from when we talked to the border agent on her arrival two years ago a cause for concern?
4. She's dependent on us due to diagnosed mental illness, is this something we should bring up in the application as a humanitarian reason, or would it be seen as a bad thing?

 

[scylla]

Hi! I found this forum and the info here has been great. I have some questions that I think I have the answer to but wanted to doublecheck everything I can.

- I sponsored my wife and her daughter for PR and they got their PR cards about 12 yrs ago.
- My stepdaughter moved back to US shortly after that to live with birth dad. Her PR card expired about 7 years ago and wasn't renewed.
- She came to Canada 2 years ago to visit us. She had a return plane ticket, the border agent wanted to see (and we showed) before waving us thru, but then covid spiked again and she never went back. The ticket was non-refundable so we just ate the cost.
- She lives with us now and is no longer a minor, and we want to renew her PR card.
- She's been in Canada for over 730 days during the last 5 years, but at the time she flew up here 2 years ago she had not.
- Her mom is now a Canadian citizen.

As far as we know, her PR status has never been removed or investigated. We never got any correspondence from immigration. Her healthcare card & SIN work. She went to our family doctor just a couple weeks ago with no trouble. She's had a working bank account most of the last two years. So based on everything we've read, we don't think there will be problems renewing her card.

So I guess my questions are
1. Are we missing anything that would put her status or renewal at risk?
2. Does immigration actually only care about the most recent 5 years, or are they supposed to look further if there was a gap prior? I mean they can already see her dates of entry & exit right?
3. Is her change of plans from when we talked to the border agent on her arrival two years ago a cause for concern?
4. She's dependent on us due to diagnosed mental illness, is this something we should bring up in the application as a humanitarian reason, or would it be seen as a bad thing?

1. Based on the info you've provided, no. Recommend waiting until she has more than 730 days in the last five years before she applies. A few weeks or a month extra would be good.
2. Only the past 5 years from the time the application is submitted to renew the PR card.
3. No issue.
4. If she meets the 730 days there's no need for this. I wouldn't bother. It will just complicate things. If she has 730 days, it should be straight forward.

 

[dtonberry]

Thank you very much! This is reassuring, and I was hoping it really was just as straightforward as they suggest about only caring about the last 5 years.

Also thanks for the advice on getting some extra time as a buffer. We can do that, since we're lucky in that she already has been here a few months past the minimum RO time needed.

 

[canuck78]

Hi! I found this forum and the info here has been great. I have some questions that I think I have the answer to but wanted to doublecheck everything I can.

- I sponsored my wife and her daughter for PR and they got their PR cards about 12 yrs ago.
- My stepdaughter moved back to US shortly after that to live with birth dad. Her PR card expired about 7 years ago and wasn't renewed.
- She came to Canada 2 years ago to visit us. She had a return plane ticket, the border agent wanted to see (and we showed) before waving us thru, but then covid spiked again and she never went back. The ticket was non-refundable so we just ate the cost.
- She lives with us now and is no longer a minor, and we want to renew her PR card.
- She's been in Canada for over 730 days during the last 5 years, but at the time she flew up here 2 years ago she had not.
- Her mom is now a Canadian citizen.

As far as we know, her PR status has never been removed or investigated. We never got any correspondence from immigration. Her healthcare card & SIN work. She went to our family doctor just a couple weeks ago with no trouble. She's had a working bank account most of the last two years. So based on everything we've read, we don't think there will be problems renewing her card.

So I guess my questions are
1. Are we missing anything that would put her status or renewal at risk?
2. Does immigration actually only care about the most recent 5 years, or are they supposed to look further if there was a gap prior? I mean they can already see her dates of entry & exit right?
3. Is her change of plans from when we talked to the border agent on her arrival two years ago a cause for concern?
4. She's dependent on us due to diagnosed mental illness, is this something we should bring up in the application as a humanitarian reason, or would it be seen as a bad thing?

Given the fact that she never met the residency to for healthcare in Canada she actually hasn’t been entitled to healthcare and could be asked to pay back any healthcare she used. She needs to reapply for a health card in order to be entitled to healthcare. In order to qualify for healthcare you need to have a valid card and meet the residency requirement set by each province to qualify for healthcare. When you leave Canada you also need inform the provincial health authority. Once you haven’t met the residency requirement you must reapply for a new health card even if you still have a valid one as long as you plan on meeting the residency requirement. You then have to start the residency requirement process from scratch. There is typically a longer residency requirement in the first year.