refused visa under 4131

[rajnik1976]

professional1 & reachmenow are absolutely right, there is nothing that you can do about it except consulting a good immigration lawyer.

NOC 4131 clearly states you should have experience as a college or vocational institute instructor. I believe you know very well what the level of your school is. Sorry about your case my friend.

 

[AA77]

Thanks for your valuable reply . I would like to clarify that our school is not a high school but a senior secondary school. I am teaching to post secondary classes i.e. 10+1,10+2. Please let me know that I am eligible for the the immigration or not. Plz reply.............

 

[rupeshhari]

10+1 and 10+2 is generally seen as high school (even if it might not be called high school in your country). The only way for us to analyze or try analyze why you were rejected is by knowing what exactly you write for your duties and what was said in the experience letter.

If your experience letter said that you got a job teaching 10+1 or 10+2 agricultural school, they might reject that based on it being a high school. This is just my opinion, don't know if i am correct.

 

[professional 1]

Thanks for your valuable reply . I would like to clarify that our school is not a high school but a senior secondary school. I am teaching to post secondary classes i.e. 10+1,10+2. Please let me know that I am eligible for the the immigration or not. Plz reply.............

Senior secondary school is the same exactly as high school it only has different names such as high school or secondary school. Now you are saying that you are teaching post secondary classes, sorry but that is a kind of contradiction because post secondary means exactly any education other than secondary(means that secondary education must not be included at that education) and you have already stated that your school is a senior secondary (so it is still a high school level) (secondary = high school).

Am not trying to discourage you but as per your given information you are not eligible under (4131) (College and Other Vocational Instructors) because your school is a senior secondary school not post secondary school.


Good luck

 

[AA77]

Thanks for your reply Rupeshhari and professional 1 .

One thing more, in cic website they mention agricultural school teacher and agricultural college teacher . I don't understand it . why they mentioned school and college separately. plz reply.

 

[professional 1]

Thanks for your reply Rupeshhari and professional 1 .

One thing more, in cic website they mention agricultural school teacher and agricultural college teacher . I don't understand it . why they mentioned school and college separately. plz reply.

I live in canada currently and english langauge is somehow different than our langauge when we try to translate words exactly as ours, i understand that you are confused about the word (school) as i was in the past, they call universities here schools but they don't literally mean school (like high or middle or primary schools) they mean school for undergraduate studies (bachelor) or school for graduate studies (master or P.HD) or school for post secondary studies (post secondary certificates or diplomas). therefore, they use the term school to describe universities and community colleges and other educational institutions at the same level of them, so all of them are post secondary schools. but when they say specifically high or secondary schools they mean it literally for the regular schools which are from grade 1 to 12.


Therefore,

Agricultural college teacher is obvious ( it means in a college)

Agricultural school teacher ( means in a college level school not senior secondary school)

 

[rupeshhari]

It could be one of two things.

1) Agricultural schools could be what post secondary colleges are called in some countries. Post secondary means after something like 10+2. Just like in India, some engineering colleges that offer BS in engineering are called colleges and not universities (maybe its a bad example but I hope you understand what I am trying to say).

2) They could mean teachers at agricultural schools rather than someone who teaches agriculture at secondary schools. The former tends to be vocational in nature and the later might be more academic or theoretical in nature.

We don't really know what they might have meant with 4131 because we are applicants like yourself. However, your question is a good one.

I am guessing what I am saying above but hopefully it will make someone else reply or help you come up with other ideas or questions.

 

[rupeshhari]

Thanks for your reply Rupeshhari and professional 1 .

One thing more, in cic website they mention agricultural school teacher and agricultural college teacher . I don't understand it . why they mentioned school and college separately. plz reply.

I live in canada currently and english langauge is somehow different than our langauge when we try to translate words exactly as ours, i understand that you are confused about the word (school) as i was in the past, they call universities here schools but they don't literally mean school (like high or middle or primary schools) they mean school for undergraduate studies (bachelor) or school for graduate studies (master or P.HD) or school for post secondary studies (post secondary certificates or diplomas). therefore, they use the term school to describe universities and community colleges and other educational institution at the same level of them so all of them are post secondary schools. but when they say specifically high or secondary schools they mean it literally for the regular schools which are from grade 1 to 12.

This is a good explanation.

 

[lynx_eyed]

Hi AA77. I have Myself applied under 4131 and 4141 Category to CIO sydney, and i am still waiting to get a positive result of my application. I have also not attached a separate sheet of paper to mentioned all my duties, what i did exactly , to fill up the 3 lines space in Form and mentioned a few duties there. But my experience is from College level exactly,its not a Higher secondary school. You do not need to dishearten yourself. New zealand is another country they look for secondary school teachers and its even more easy, you can apply online under Skilled Migrant catagory( SMC). I am not sure where are you from, If you qualification is Pakistan, you will need to have assessment of Qualification before you apply and If you are from India, you do not need any assessment then, Go ahead. Good Luck

 

[teepot2000]

Hello,

My FSW application came back with the following response: "The occupation(s) you indicated that you have work experience in do(es) not correspond to any of the occupations specified in the instructions. As your occupation(s) is not included on the list of eligible occupations, we are unable to process your application at this time." This one was done by lawyer, who put in wrong noc code.

I want to reapply under noc 4131 (my duties match) by myself but I am confused what to answer in the Schedule 1 form. Here is the question: "Have you (principal applicant) been refused refugee status in, or an immigrant or permanent resident visa or visitor or temporary resident visa to, Canada or any other country...".

From the CIC letter, it says that they are "unable to process my application", so should my answer to the Schedule 1 question be Yes or No? Does "unable to process" mean "refusal"?

Please help. Thanks in advance.

 

[lynx_eyed]

If you are sure the reason for rejection was just to put Incorrect Code in your form, Then you may apply again after waiting for sometime to Re-collect your money back from them and Put the Correct code again in form. You will have to write down "YES" you had applied before, If you do not mention this, I am afraid they will have your record in computer and your form again will be considered misinterpretation and you will be denied again.

 

[rupeshhari]

does he have to wait to get his money back?

 

[rajnik1976]

If he has extra money then he can definitely go ahead with new application, his money will be refunded to him as per the normal procedure of CIC.

 

[lynx_eyed]

Well It's not Obligatory for Him/her to wait for the refunded money from CIC, He/she can go with a new application If the person has extra Money.

 

[AA77]

THANKS A LOT SENIORS RUPESHHARI AND PROFESSIONAL 1,

After your replies ,now I will reconsider my decision of reapply . one more point there is that i am teaching in agricultural school .we have a well developed farm where we conduct our practicals. As rupeshhari mentioned earlier they are looking for teachers of agricultural schools .More over , agriculture is a vocational subject.
I am still confused about my refusal. plz reply,,,,,,,,,,,,,,