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Reference letter from employer - please advise

think0911

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Aug 11, 2016
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Hi seniors,

My current employer is not providing my role and responsibilities latter, so I asked my manager to provide the same, he is ready to provide me on my official email Id but not ready to give his ID card or visiting card.

My questions-
1)roles and responsibilities on official email would be sufficient?
2)Or if I take reference latter for higher study with ID card of my manager? He is ready to do that
3)And he has company's letterhead, and he is ready to give me that letter on official letterhead but not using his own name but HR. Would that be advisable to take?
4)CIC verify these letters??

Please advise me
Thanks
 

istari

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think0911 said:
Hi seniors,

My current employer is not providing my role and responsibilities latter, so I asked my manager to provide the same, he is ready to provide me on my official email Id but not ready to give his ID card or visiting card.

My questions-
1)roles and responsibilities on official email would be sufficient?
No.

2)Or if I take reference latter for higher study with ID card of my manager? He is ready to do that
3)And he has company's letterhead, and he is ready to give me that letter on official letterhead but not using his own name but HR. Would that be advisable to take?
4)CIC verify these letters??
Yes.

Please advise me
Thanks
 

CADparity

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Sep 5, 2015
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think0911 said:
Hi seniors,

My current employer is not providing my role and responsibilities latter, so I asked my manager to provide the same, he is ready to provide me on my official email Id but not ready to give his ID card or visiting card.

My questions-
1)roles and responsibilities on official email would be sufficient?
2)Or if I take reference latter for higher study with ID card of my manager? He is ready to do that
3)And he has company's letterhead, and he is ready to give me that letter on official letterhead but not using his own name but HR. Would that be advisable to take?
4)CIC verify these letters??

Please advise me
Thanks
The letter should be printed and then signed by whoever wrote it. Ask your manager to do that instead of sending an email. If it's not on letterhead, that's not a huge problem if you have a good explanation - for example the HR refuses to issue it.
 

rajkamalmohanram

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Your manager can issue it. If the letter is not on the letterhead, get it notarized. It should contain all the details that are required.

If your manager is providing it, then it is advisable that his business card or ID card copy is also submitted along with the letter.
 

IMTS

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Sep 2, 2016
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Do they verify ALL references letter by calling one's workplace? Or do they have certain circumstances under which they choose to contact someone's employer?
 

istari

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IMTS said:
Do they verify ALL references letter by calling one's workplace? Or do they have certain circumstances under which they choose to contact someone's employer?
They don't verify all references. But as far as we've managed to figure out on this forum, there's no way of predicted which ones they will verify. Obviously, if there is something wrong with your letter, and they are suspicious of it, they will verify. But they also seem to choose some at random.
 

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think0911 said:
Hi seniors,

My current employer is not providing my role and responsibilities latter, so I asked my manager to provide the same, he is ready to provide me on my official email Id but not ready to give his ID card or visiting card.

My questions-
1)roles and responsibilities on official email would be sufficient?
2)Or if I take reference latter for higher study with ID card of my manager? He is ready to do that
3)And he has company's letterhead, and he is ready to give me that letter on official letterhead but not using his own name but HR. Would that be advisable to take?
4)CIC verify these letters??

Please advise me
Thanks
Go with option 3, that should be sufficient.
 

think0911

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My manger is ready to issue letter on letterhead using HR's name and HR department would be unaware about it, kind of wrong doing
This is okay to go with this option?? And what if they try to contact that HR person whose name is mentioned on that latter??
Please advise, I don't wanna do anything wrong related to CIC documents and don't want rejection either
Thanks
 

think0911

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Aug 11, 2016
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I have 5 years of work experience in same organisation and still working
I got 2 promotion till now and my designations from trainee -> system engineer -> IT analyst

I am planning to apply under NOC 2171 as per my current job title.
Can I show my 5 years of experience under same NOC?? Or I have to break it?
I am working same project except first 3 months of training.

My manager is ready to issue the letter as per NOC 2171

Please advise
 

istari

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think0911 said:
My manger is ready to issue letter on letterhead using HR's name and HR department would be unaware about it, kind of wrong doing
This is okay to go with this option?? And what if they try to contact that HR person whose name is mentioned on that latter??
Please advise, I don't wanna do anything wrong related to CIC documents and don't want rejection either
Thanks
Do you mean that your manager is going to issue a letter under someone else's name ?

Not only is that wrong, it's a crime.
 

istari

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think0911 said:
I have 5 years of work experience in same organisation and still working
I got 2 promotion till now and my designations from trainee -> system engineer -> IT analyst

I am planning to apply under NOC 2171 as per my current job title.
Can I show my 5 years of experience under same NOC?? Or I have to break it?
I am working same project except first 3 months of training.

My manager is ready to issue the letter as per NOC 2171

Please advise
If all 3 designations fell under the same NOC, then you may be able to claim it under the same NOC. If they were different NOCs, you must break it up.
 

think0911

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istari said:
Do you mean that your manager is going to issue a letter under someone else's name ?

Not only is that wrong, it's a crime.
Thank so for the advise mate,and yes even I said the same thing straight forward no to him,
 

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think0911 said:
Hi seniors,

My current employer is not providing my role and responsibilities latter, so I asked my manager to provide the same, he is ready to provide me on my official email Id but not ready to give his ID card or visiting card.

My questions-
1)roles and responsibilities on official email would be sufficient?
2)Or if I take reference latter for higher study with ID card of my manager? He is ready to do that
3)And he has company's letterhead, and he is ready to give me that letter on official letterhead but not using his own name but HR. Would that be advisable to take?
4)CIC verify these letters??

Please advise me
Thanks
1) No, this would not be sufficient
2) If you took it for higher study, you wouldn't be able to get this employment verified, however. Unless I am understanding you wrong
3) That would work better than nothing
4) Yes

My advise to you is: get letters from colleagues (not seniors, your own colleagues), and have photocopies of their ID attached to those letters. Then, write a letter of explanation where you describe the situation, and your responsibilities, and send that along with your colleagues' letters and IDs in lieu of your employer writing you a letter.
 

think0911

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Aug 11, 2016
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Aragorn165 said:
1) No, this would not be sufficient
2) If you took it for higher study, you wouldn't be able to get this employment verified, however. Unless I am understanding you wrong
3) That would work better than nothing
4) Yes

My advise to you is: get letters from colleagues (not seniors, your own colleagues), and have photocopies of their ID attached to those letters. Then, write a letter of explanation where you describe the situation, and your responsibilities, and send that along with your colleagues' letters and IDs in lieu of your employer writing you a letter.
Thank you so much for understanding my situation
+1 for u mate.
So I got one bonafide letter from HR, in that my employee ID, joining date and designation is mentioned but it's issue under bank formalities section as HR team is not issuing the same for PR purpose.
So that will work??

And ans about my NOC doubts,
In last 5 years, 3 positions
Trainee -> system -> engineer -> IT anaylst

So I am planning to select 2171 NOC code. Can I do that?
Thanks