Re-entering... on a visitor visa?

[Estefania]

Hi community!
I am a little concerned about my situation. I´ve been to Canada a couple of times on a Visitor Visa. Leaving and re-entering twice.
Last time I entered the officer asked me questions, like what do I do in Canada, if I study (less than six months) where do I get the money from... etc... (He didn´t believe my dad paid for everything, though I don´t blame him) so I told him that I couldn´t understand why he was asking me all those questions when I had already proved on my visitor visa application that my expenses were going to be covered. He allowed me to stay for 6 months and told me to ask for an extension. But my extension was refused. I stated that I was going to take English classes but didn´t provide any enrollment proof. So I got a Departure Order and had to leave.

Now, I am applying for my PR through my dad (I am independent child) outland, but it will take a while and I want to go back to Canada since I haven´t been in my country in a while and I don´t have strong ties here.
To convince immigration officers, should I ask for a study/job permit to make them feel sure about the fact that I won´t work illegally there while I wait for my PR? Or should I still go on a visitor visa but provide (again) a letter from my dad stating that he will pay for all the expenses and showing the courses that I will take in Canada are previously paid?

I hope someone can help me
Thank you very much!

 

[k.h.p.]

When you got your departure order, did you confirm your exit with CBSA when you left Canada?

You've been flagged in the system as potentially being at risk for overstaying. You're not actually supposed to enter Canada as a visitor to "wait out" the PR - you're not a genuine visitor in that case. Especially since, as you say, you don't have strong ties in your country.

To get a study permit, you need to pay tuition, get a confirmation of enrolment, and prove that you have all costs plus $10,000 living expenses available to you. It is very hard to get a work permit, you must qualify, be invited to apply, and be selected. If you're studying for more than six months, you need a study permit.

If you are an independent child, how are you getting PR? Are you under 21 years old?

Additionally, a CBSA officer always has the right to ask you questions when you ask to enter the country. It doesn't matter if you've answered them when applying for the visa - the visa is just permission to come to the port of entry and apply to enter Canada. You must then satisfy the CBSA officer you will not violate the terms of your admission.

 

[Estefania]

Thanks for replying,
Since my dad has no Canadian (citizen or resident) relatives, and no parents alive to sponsor he is going to sponsor me.

I didn´t confirm CBSA my exit, because it didn´t say anything in the letter of refusal. I thought the fact of leaving was enough. I just realized this yesterday . And this happened in January.

So I guess it will be better to wait till PR is processed then...

 

[k.h.p.]

Thanks for replying,
Since my dad has no Canadian (citizen or resident) relatives, and no parents alive to sponsor he is going to sponsor me.

I didn´t confirm CBSA my exit, because it didn´t say anything in the letter of refusal. I thought the fact of leaving was enough. I just realized about this yesterday . And this happened in January.

So I guess it will be better to wait till PR is processed then...

You said you had a departure order, though.

A departure order requires confirmation of exit. If you do not confirm your exit with CBSA, the departure order turns into a deportation order.

If it turns into a deportation order, you are required to apply for and obtain an "Authorization to Return to Canada" before you can apply to return to Canada. If this applies to you, then your PR application may be denied because you have no ARC.

Did you actually get a departure order?

 

[Estefania]

You said you had a departure order, though.

A departure order requires confirmation of exit. If you do not confirm your exit with CBSA, the departure order turns into a deportation order.

If it turns into a deportation order, you are required to apply for and obtain an "Authorization to Return to Canada" before you can apply to return to Canada. If this applies to you, then your PR application may be denied because you have no ARC.

Did you actually get a departure order?

Persons wishing to extend temporary resident status in Canada must satisfy an officer
that they will leave Canada by the end of the period authorized for their stay, that they
will not contravene the conditions of entry and that they do not belong in a category of
persons inadmissible to Canada under the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act
(IRPA).

You must leave Canada on or before the expiry of your current document or, if your document has already expired you must leave Canada immediately. Failure to do so could result in enforcement action being taken against to you.

When should I contact CIC?
Changes in your personal circumstances : birth or adoption of a child, death of a relative, etc
Change of contact information: telephone number, address, etc
Appointment or change of an immigration representative
Decision to withdraw your application

 

[k.h.p.]

That's not a departure order. A departure order is a very specific thing, which is why I asked you if you received one.

 

[Estefania]

Oh I am sorry. I thought it was this https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/security-securite/rem-ren-eng.html

 

[k.h.p.]

That is what you said it was, but what you posted above is the standard wording of a refusal letter.

A departure order would clearly say "Departure Order" and tell you to report to CBSA when you leave the country.

 

[Estefania]

That's not a departure order. A departure order is a very specific thing, which is why I asked you if you received one.

So you still think I should wait or can I go back on a visitor visa?

 

[k.h.p.]

You can try to go back. CBSA may still have problems with you, or may deny you entry to the country.

 

[Estefania]

Ok. Thanks a lot for your help k.p.h!!