Re entering canada after 6months stay

[teakoscina]

Hi there!

I went to Canada to spend time with my girlfriend and I was there from September till March this year. I am currently in Croatia, my home country. I was wondering if I would be able to enter Canada in July as I am planning to get married and apply for the PR. Any info would be very helpful!!!

 

[Regina]

Chances are slim. You have no ties in your country and you have already spent 6 months in Canada only 2 months ago.
Your girlfriend could come to Croatia, marry to you and start sponsoring process outland. If she is a Canadian citizen she may stay with you in Croatia during the process.

 

[Rob_TO]

Hi there!

I went to Canada to spend time with my girlfriend and I was there from September till March this year. I am currently in Croatia, my home country. I was wondering if I would be able to enter Canada in July as I am planning to get married and apply for the PR. Any info would be very helpful!!!

Croatia is visa exempt to Canada, so you shouldn't have a problem coming back to Canada. Just make sure you have a return ticket dated for less than 6 months later, and proof of suitable funds to support yourself. Would also help to show any ties to Croatia (like job or rent agreement) but that is not essential.

You do not need to volunteer information like you will be getting married, but if asked directly you need to tell the truth. It's not illegal for visitors to get married in Canada, so this should not be a problem.

 

[Regina]

The only difference between the persons with or without visas is that the person from visa-exempt country does not need a visa to board on plain to Canada.
Everything else like : reason to come, reason to stay, length of stay period, ties to the home country, previous visit to Canada- are the same and crucially important. If in the first case (visa needed) VO will ask and decide to issue visa or not, in the second case (visa- exempt) border officer will decide the same.

 

[Rob_TO]

The only difference between the persons with or without visas is that the person from visa-exempt country does not need a visa to board on plain to Canada.
Everything else like : reason to come, reason to stay, length of stay period, ties to the home country, previous visit to Canada- are the same and crucially important. If in the first case (visa needed) VO will ask and decide to issue visa or not, in the second case (visa- exempt) border officer will decide the same.

That's not true at all. For people requiring special visas, they need to make a strong case to CIC in advance and be pre-approved. The refusal rate is very high.

For visa-exempt people, they are already in Canada when they speak to the immigration officer. In the vast majority of cases, visa-exempt people are just rubber stamped with a 6-month approval after a few basic questions, and are not even asked to provide supporting documentation. It's incredibly rare that visa-exempt traveler would be denied entry to Canada, and only for very unique situations. People rejected this way is a tiny fraction compared to applying for TRV in advance.

The 2 are not even comparable. There is a reason some countries require visas and others don't, and Canada makes entry MUCH easier for visa-exempt.

 

[Regina]

For people requiring special visas, they need to make a strong case to CIC in advance and be pre-approved.

It does not matter. Because the final decision is made at POE. What they look at you may see on youtube. Very useful info: Border Security Canada's Front Line or Border security Australia (different procedures are different but still they look for the same).

They look at EACH immigrant from the SAME point of view: last visit, ties to home country, purpose of visit... especially concerning young guys from Croatia during their second entry to Canada within couple of months....

 

[Rob_TO]

It does not matter. Because the final decision is made at POE. What they look at you may see on youtube. Very useful info: Border Security Canada's Front Line or Border security Australia (different procedures are different but still they look for the same).

Don't base your knowledge off TV shows. They are showing the most extreme and unique of cases. 99% of cases are boring and straightforward so would not make interesting tv.

They look at EACH immigrant from the SAME point of view: last visit, ties to home country, purpose of visit... especially concerning young guys from Croatia during their second entry to Canada within couple of months....

Whether from Croatia or elsewhere, he is visa-exempt and that is what matters. Same as if a US citizen were crossing the border.

It is NOT THE SAME as applying for a TRV, which ALWAYS has a comprehensive analysis done on the traveler and a MUCH LARGER burden of proof on someone requiring a special visa.

As I said, at POE for visa-exempt most times people get a rubber stamp approval and are not even asked to show return flight, funds, or any other evidence of ties to country. In only some unique cases if they suspect something, will the traveler be pulled aside for further questioning, and even then most people are still approved.

According to stats CBSA denies only around 0.05% of all travelers at POE when trying to enter Canada. Can you see how tiny a number that is??

So it's best to be prepared with evidence just in case, but it should not be a problem and I would wager most evidence will not even need to be shown.

 

[polara69]

I second Rob.. I am visa exempt and traveled to many countries and stayed for long terms at the time. Never had any issues returning to those countries.

 

[Regina]

Never had any issues returning to those countries.

The devil is in the details.

It is not so important that those cases are outstanding. My point was - pay attention what they are looking at and for.
They ask simple questions : what is your purpose to come to Canada? (marry a GF ). What do you do at home (meaning : spent 6 months in Canada and after 2 months going back?). Where did you stay? Where are going to stay? Any genuine tourist would not have troubles answering these questions. But not in situation of OP.

 

[Rob_TO]

The devil is in the details.

It is not so important that those cases are outstanding. My point was - pay attention what they are looking at and for.
They ask simple questions : what is your purpose to come to Canada? (marry a GF ). What do you do at home (meaning : spent 6 months in Canada and after 2 months going back?). Where did you stay? Where are going to stay? Any genuine tourist would not have troubles answering these questions. But not in situation of OP.

You have absolutely no idea about the OPs situation. Tons of people stay in Canada by extending their visitor visa for an additional 6 or 12 months simply to stay in Canada with a partner, or they simply leave and re-enter. This happens all the time, with hardly any problems. Saying you are visiting a gf but are prepared to leave after 6 months is ok. Since he actually left before on his last stay, it shows he has no problem leaving when visitor status expires.

As i said, have proof of return ticket and proof of funds to last up to 6 months so they don't think he will look for work, and he should be fine. You should stop trying to scare the OP as his situation is completely normal and has happened a million times before, and your advice here is very bad.

 

[taffy7]

I agree with Rob . My husband has traveled back and fourth from a visa exempt country. We have even left Canada and went to the Caribbean and returned. My only advice would be not to turn up with 3 suitcases and letters and cards or any resume for job hunting. My husband came over and we got married. Good luck.

 

[txboyscout]

Although we would like to have everyone treated the same, they are not

People from visa exempt countries have it a lot easier than people that require TRVs

It is very hard to convince an embassy or counsulate to grant you another TRV if you apply 2 months after havomg spent 6 months in Canada....Wheras if you show up at the border, the only reason (in most cases) you will be denied entry is if the IO is not satisfied with the paperwork you provide

 

[teakoscina]

Thanks everyone for the replies.

I asked this question because I read after spending 6 months as a tourist, I would be required to spend 6 months in my home country. Heard that some people got their entry denied upon arriving to Canada.

I am planning on going back in September, getting married and applying for the sponsorship, eventually getting a PR.
Since same sex marriage is not legal in my country, is there a chance they might not let me in if I say I'm planning on getting married?

 

[txboyscout]

Thanks everyone for the replies.

I asked this question because I read after spending 6 months as a tourist, I would be required to spend 6 months in my home country. Heard that some people got their entry denied upon arriving to Canada.

I am planning on going back in September, getting married and applying for the sponsorship, eventually getting a PR.
Since same sex marriage is not legal in my country, is there a chance they might not let me in if I say I'm planning on getting married?

If you tell them you are getting married, there is very little chance they will let you in.
You are a visitor and suppoused to be visiting Canada, getting married means that you now have more ties to Canada (your spouse) than to your home country. A VO will make the assumption that you are going to get married and then do a inland sposual application and deny you entry