Question to Leon:Proof of Fund at the time of Landing

[nasim15]

I received a mail like this from one of my friends:

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I know you are extremely busy now for your last moment preparations. I am still in Saudi and waiting for my clearance papers from here.

Before, I wanted to land together with my family. But recently, I have changed my plan and wish to land alone. As we don't have any friend or relative who can help us in initial days of landing, so I want to go ahead and prepare house etc for my family.

I want to travel directly from Saudi to Canda. As I have to show around CA$20.500 (4 family members), Can I take US$12,000 cash with me? This is all I have with me right now. And I can't arrange more, because I already sent all my salary to Bangladesh (it was not my plan before to fly from here).

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We showed more than CA$200,000 during document updation. I have copy of some of those bank statements, but not all. Also I don't have current balance of those accounts. So in the port of entry... if I submit copy of those old statements (8-10 months old) and they may be around CA$100,000 ... shall the officer accept me @ CANADA or shall ask for recent ... original ....statement of whole (CA$200,000)?

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Now .. worth statement at the port of entry is my ONLY CONCERN. Need your valuable opinion.
Take care,

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My reply was as follows:

First of all is it mandetory to show the uptodated worth statement at the port of entry?

I do not think so.

I have never heard of any such things to be showed at the time of landing.

Only you have to take the required amount of fund with you (for 4 persons $ 20500).
The Canada immigration and CBSA will ask about the fund you are carrying. It has been advised that you should not lie in front of them or pretend that you have the required fund, whereas you do not have actually.(although I have heard that they only ask, do not physically count the coins ever).

But in your case since you are landing alone I think $12000 is sufficient and I think the border people will accept it.You have logic against that. You will say that rest of the fund will be brought in by your hubby when he lands.

Am I correct?

 

[max_lee]

Pls see my reply below in RED

My reply was as follows:

First of all is it mandetory to show the uptodated worth statement at the port of entry?

I do not think so. Nope, if you are carrying a Bank statement in funds that are equal to the required amount as POF that statement needs to be not older than 30 days(This is after my personal talk with a CBSA officer)

I have never heard of any such things to be showed at the time of landing. Nope, you are always asked to show POF at POE while completing your Landing.
Only you have to take the required amount of fund with you (for 4 persons $ 20500). Yes this is correct the total can be carried as Cash/TC/Bank Draft.The Canada immigration and CBSA will ask about the fund you are carrying. It has been advised that you should not lie in front of them or pretend that you have the required fund, whereas you do not have actually.(although I have heard that they only ask, do not physically count the coins ever). Yes this is correct, but just in case they want to see it and you are not able to prove what you mentioned, this is serious as you are misrepresenting. The IO can refuse entry for this reason.
Also if you carry any amount more than $10,000 that has to be declared to the IO & Customs.
But in your case since you are landing alone I think $12000 is sufficient and I think the border people will accept it.You have logic against that. You will say that rest of the fund will be brought in by your hubby when he lands.

Am I correct? Nope, even if you are landing alone, you need to show the full amount of $20,600(for 4 people) as the COPR will show the number of people that are a part of the PR although they are not accompanying the principal applicant at the time of landing.

The above is what I have seen and read from the forum, would see what other members, seniors got to say on this.
Rgds

Max

 

[nasim15]

Pls see my reply below in RED

My reply was as follows:

First of all is it mandetory to show the uptodated worth statement at the port of entry?

I do not think so. Nope, if you are carrying a Bank statement in funds that are equal to the required amount as POF that statement needs to be not older than 30 days(This is after my personal talk with a CBSA officer)

I have never heard of any such things to be showed at the time of landing. Nope, you are always asked to show POF at POE while completing your Landing.
Only you have to take the required amount of fund with you (for 4 persons $ 20500). Yes this is correct the total can be carried as Cash/TC/Bank Draft.The Canada immigration and CBSA will ask about the fund you are carrying. It has been advised that you should not lie in front of them or pretend that you have the required fund, whereas you do not have actually.(although I have heard that they only ask, do not physically count the coins ever). Yes this is correct, but just in case they want to see it and you are not able to prove what you mentioned, this is serious as you are misrepresenting. The IO can refuse entry for this reason.
Also if you carry any amount more than $10,000 that has to be declared to the IO & Customs.
But in your case since you are landing alone I think $12000 is sufficient and I think the border people will accept it.You have logic against that. You will say that rest of the fund will be brought in by your hubby when he lands.

Am I correct? Nope, even if you are landing alone, you need to show the full amount of $20,600(for 4 people) as the COPR will show the number of people that are a part of the PR although they are not accompanying the principal applicant at the time of landing.

The above is what I have seen and read from the forum, would see what other members, seniors got to say on this.
Rgds

Max

Max

Thanks for your reply. But I am still confused about the following:

Should I have to submit the Net Worth Statement supported by Bank Statement during landing?
Suppose I showed $ 30,000 as my Net Worth at the time of document update. Should I have to repeat it again to the IO/CBSA at POE? Or I just have to carry the minimum required amount (for 4 pax $20,600).

 

[max_lee]

Just replied to your email, answer is No, if you have CAD$20,599 that is required for a family of 4 as POF at POE, then you are good, no need to show any other additional proof.

Rgds

Max

 

[RPN]

Max

As per the size of my family I am suppose to carry CAD$20,599.

Can I carry CAD$15000.00 as cash/TC while landing and
a bank certificate of Tk. 420000.00 (equ CAD$ 6000.00) from my bank where I have the account. The certificate can be 10 days older from my arrival date.

Is this Ok to serve the purpose of "Proof of fund".

Thanks.

 

[nasim15]

Max

As per the size of my family I am suppose to carry CAD$20,599.

Can I carry CAD$15000.00 as cash/TC while landing and
a bank certificate of Tk. 420000.00 (equ CAD$ 6000.00) from my bank where I have the account. The certificate can be 10 days older from my arrival date.

Is this Ok to serve the purpose of "Proof of fund".

Thanks.

qorax replied as follows:

U can be 'denied' entry into Canada if u do not carry the 'required' funds during your 1st Landing. For 4 pax it is CAD 20,600/-. There is no way out from it, even if u r landing alone. U can carry this amount in 1]Cash, 2]TC &/or 3]bank Draft -No Bank statements. I repeat No Bank statement r allowed. U must carry the funds in the aforementioned 3 mediums ONLY.

 

[max_lee]

Max

As per the size of my family I am suppose to carry CAD$20,599.

Can I carry CAD$15000.00 as cash/TC while landing and
a bank certificate of Tk. 420000.00 (equ CAD$ 6000.00) from my bank where I have the account. The certificate can be 10 days older from my arrival date.

Is this Ok to serve the purpose of "Proof of fund".

Thanks.

As my personal experience, before I completed my landing I checked with CBSA at the POE and they informed me Bank statement was fine and I did not have any problem, but in my case the funds were in USD, from a Nationalised Bank in US. But I have read in the forum that bank statements from countries other than UK & US may not be acceptable, if possible try making a quick call to CBSA at the POE you are planning to fly into, the officers are very friendly and helpful, might cost you a bit for the call but you can be really sure, as always better to be safe than sorry.

Max

 

[RPN]

Max

thanks for your reply.

Would you be enough kind to provide the telephone number of CBSA at POE (Pearson Airport, Toronto).

 

[max_lee]

Max

thanks for your reply.

Would you be enough kind to provide the telephone number of CBSA at POE (Pearson Airport, Toronto).

Here are the Links, sorry couldn't get the telephone numbers but you can contact BIS(Border Information Services) Desk and get the numbers from them,

Terminal 1
http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/contact/listing/offices/office853-e.html

Terminal 3
http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/contact/listing/offices/office855-e.html

hope this helps,

Max

 

[nasim15]

Now I have practical experience of landing at Canadian soil.So far I have been listening to different people.

I landed exactly at 16:20 at the Toronto Airport by an Etihad flight.

The experience is very nice.Everybody from flight crew to CBSA officers were extremely helpful and cooperative.

In Bangladesh side nobody asked me how much dollar I am taking. We were very axious about this. Because BD Govt restricts taking FC to outside and there are specific rules regarding it which is somehow not matching to Canada Migration Policy. Canada requires certain amount to bring during 1st landing according to the pricipal applicant's total number of family members. Therefore, everybody is taking money illegally to comply with Canadian requirement.

After landing at Toronto I found it very simple procedure to follow. First a CBSA form declaring certain items to be filled in & signed(it will be supplied at the aircraft). You have to declare the following:

I am /are bringing into Canada:


Fire arms or other weapons

Commercial goods, whether or not for resale

Meat/meat products;dairy products;fruits;vegetables;seeds;nuts;plants;animals or their parts/products;cut flowers;soil;wood/wood products;birds;insects

Currency and/or monetary instruments of a value totalling CAN$ 10,000 or more.

It is written there in the form that under the law, failure to properly declare goods, currency and monetary instruments brought into canada may result in seizure action,monetary penalties and/or criminal prosecution.

So, Bangladeshi immigrants brothers/sisters who will land in future must keep in mind that above items are highly restricted in Canada. So do not bring those items. If you bring those items, you must have to declare that and CBSA officer s will check your luggege and seize the item. If you do not declare then you may go escort free (?) but if caught (probability is 99%, because Canada has the best scanning machine in the world) you may be fined (monetary) or criminal proceeding may start for misdeclaration and your entire process of migration may be at stake. So it is adisable not to bring any of the above listed ITEMs at all.CBSA officers will also ask you about how much money you are carrying with you and in what form but do not physically count those (as far as I have seen). They do not ask for any POF rather they ask for physical fund. So you must carry the required amount in cash, draft or TC as per CIC guideline.

Another CBSA officer will check your COPR and get your sign there and ask for a canadian address so they can send the PR card there. So note down a correct deatail full canadian address before you leave home.

There are certain guest houses who allow you to use their address for this purpose.

I am staying at a guest house named Safehomestay at 5 Lockmere Terrace. They are very good.