Question on calculating weekly hours

[ju_mark]

Hi there,

I know, it's simple maths but I need a second brain to a look. Appreciate your help!

I am working for my company since May 1, 2012 and have a total of 2453,75 hours. My boss hired me for 30 up to 40 hours per week (which would be full-time). Unfortunately, she mixed up semi-monthly and bi-weekly. And I did not catch it on my payslips (she is usually a couple of days late with paying so I never figured out that it is not bi-weekly...). So instead of 26 payterms I only have 24.

My question: What would be my hours per week? My 30 hours per week are actually not 30 hours, but only about 27. right? Same for the 40 hours per week that would in fact be about 37 hours?

My second question: Is this enough for CEC or a problem because there are a couple of months where I have not been fulltime (for 6 months I worked 60 hours per payterm, the rest was 80 hours per payterm. So I basically have 12 months with 80 hours (37 hours per week) plus the 6 months). I know you can do the equivalent in part-time but then I have to wrok twice the time, do I?

Thanks a lot for your help

 

[lpc19800]

Hi there,

I know, it's simple maths but I need a second brain to a look. Appreciate your help!

I am working for my company since May 1, 2012 and have a total of 2453,75 hours. My boss hired me for 30 up to 40 hours per week (which would be full-time). Unfortunately, she mixed up semi-monthly and bi-weekly. And I did not catch it on my payslips (she is usually a couple of days late with paying so I never figured out that it is not bi-weekly...). So instead of 26 payterms I only have 24.

My question: What would be my hours per week? My 30 hours per week are actually not 30 hours, but only about 27. right? Same for the 40 hours per week that would in fact be about 37 hours?

My second question: Is this enough for CEC or a problem because there are a couple of months where I have not been fulltime (for 6 months I worked 60 hours per payterm, the rest was 80 hours per payterm. So I basically have 12 months with 80 hours (37 hours per week) plus the 6 months). I know you can do the equivalent in part-time but then I have to wrok twice the time, do I?

Thanks a lot for your help

Are you still working there?
Anything over 30 hours isn't counted so you may need to do to the equivalent part time hours

 

[jes_ON]

First, CIC defines full-time as 30 hours or more per week, so as far as they are concerned, doesn't matter if it's 30 or 40 hours per week, it's full-time.

Second, if you have worked 18 months (~78 weeks), but are missing pay for 2 pay periods (4 weeks), it is still quite clear that you have worked long enough (52 weeks) to qualify, so try try to relax and not to complicate this.

I think your question is, since your boss "messed up" the pay periods, how to describe your weekly hours? Your letter can state that you were a full-time employee who worked a minimum of 30 hours per week.

Beyond that, I would have to know more about how you were paid (hourly rate, salary...?)

 

[ju_mark]

Are you still working there?
Anything over 30 hours isn't counted so you may need to do to the equivalent part time hours

Yes, I am still working there. At the moment I work 80 hours per payterm (paid semi-monthly). What you you mean by: anything over 30 hours is not counted?

 

[jes_ON]

What you you mean by: anything over 30 hours is not counted?

Means, if you work at least 30 hours per week, it is a "full-time week," doesn't matter if you work 40 or 80 hours per week, it is just one full-time week.

 

[ju_mark]

First, CIC defines full-time as 30 hours or more per week, so as far as they are concerned, doesn't matter if it's 30 or 40 hours per week, it's full-time.

Ok, but if I get paid 60 hours semi-monthly then this is not fulltime. right? if you break it down it is less than 30 hours per week

Second, if you have worked 18 months (~78 weeks), but are missing pay for 2 pay periods (4 weeks), it is still quite clear that you have worked long enough (52 weeks) to qualify, so try try to relax and not to complicate this.

I try to relax. Its just I just figured out that I got paid the wrong way. and I am close to send off my stuff (yeah, and I just want to send it and focus on something else then filling out paperwork calculating hours for a bit ). So you are saying: as long as I have 52 weeks of 30 or more hours I am on the safe side? THIS would actually really realy me 8)

I think your question is, since your boss "messed up" the pay periods, how to describe your weekly hours? Your letter can state that you were a full-time employee who worked a minimum of 30 hours per week.
Exactly. Can I just say "minimum of 30 hours per week" or do I have to break it all down and display for each payterm how much I worked? Do I have mention that I get paid semi-monthly? And again: If I get paid semi-monthly it is practically not 30 hours per week, but only 27, isn't it?

Beyond that, I would have to know more about how you were paid (hourly rate, salary...?)

hourly rate (started at $16/hour, then went up to $16.09/hour, is now at $18/hour. I am getting paid hourly + 4% vacation pay. I had 5 weeks off (sick leave, holidays since I started work there in May 2012

 

[ju_mark]

Means, if you work at least 30 hours per week, it is a "full-time week," doesn't matter if you work 40 or 80 hours per week, it is just one full-time week.

ok. which brings me back to: 60 hours in a semi-monthly payterm. Is this 30 hours per week or in fact onl 27 hours per week? thanks

 

[CEC2013]

ok. which brings me back to: 60 hours in a semi-monthly payterm. Is this 30 hours per week or in fact onl 27 hours per week? thanks

For example:

I worked for XXXXX from JAN '12 to JUN '13 on a full time basis of 35 hrs per week. That comes out to 18 months x 4 weeks x 35 hrs (roughly). Well, CIC's definition of full time is a minimum of 30....so they would look at it this way 18 months x 4 weeks x 30 hrs.

The requirement is that you work for 1 year or 52 weeks and a minimum of 30 hrs per week. So, you need to show 52 weeks (1yr) AND 1,560 hrs to be eligible. If you've worked for 78 weeks with 40 hours per week, then you qualify, based on the fact that you fulfill both requirements: equal to or more than 52 weeks and 30 hrs or more per week.

And yes, if your pay period is bi-weekly (every 2 weeks), then you would need 60hrs for that period. Dont overcomplicate this. If you are working 40 hrs per week, and they only count 30 of it, you are well above the mark. You do not need to show every single pay period. They will calculate this based on your reference letter, T4 and NOA.

 

[canadavisa13]

hi ju_mark,

very simple and easy,if you have worked 52 weeks with 30 hours a week then you qualify.if any of the 52 weeks have less then 30 hours then you have to work extra more days or weeks depends to accumulate the hours needed.
if you work 52 weeks but are mixed hours some,for exmaple one week you worked 15 hours and another 55 hours then its counted as a week and a half,therfore you need 4 more days to make it.
easy and simple,over 30 hours a week is not counted,less then 30 hours a week you have to work extra more days to accumulate the exact number,
good luck

 

[CEC2013]

hi ju_mark,
very simple and easy,if you have worked 52 weeks with 30 hours a week then you qualify.if any of the 52 weeks have less then 30 hours then you have to work extra more days or weeks depends to accumulate the hours needed.
if you work 52 weeks but are mixed hours some,for exmaple one week you worked 15 hours and another 55 hours then its counted as a week and a half,therfore you need 4 more days to make it.
easy and simple,over 30 hours a week is not counted,less then 30 hours a week you have to work extra more days to accumulate the exact number,
good luck

Precisely! And having a buffer of a few weeks and extra hours is always a good idea. So the VO is not having to drill down on the numbers and calculate to the very last hour possible.

 

[ju_mark]

And yes, if your pay period is bi-weekly (every 2 weeks), then you would need 60hrs for that period. Dont overcomplicate this.

Thank you all for the helpful replies. BUT: My pay period is NOT bi-weekly. it is SEMI-monthly (2 payterms per week). for 60 hours. so how many hours is this PER WEEK? it counts as 30 or do they count this as less?

I am really not trying to overcomplicate, I am just trying to understand (and I guess that might be question lots of people here might also have in the future). thanks a lot. This forum is great and I appreciate you guys are really helping a lot of people here with great advice!

 

[CEC2013]

Thank you all for the helpful replies. BUT: My pay period is NOT bi-weekly. it is SEMI-monthly (2 payterms per week). for 60 hours. so how many hours is this PER WEEK? it counts as 30 or do they count this as less?

I am so confused about this. 2 payterms per week? Never heard of it. The language used here is telling me that you are being paid two times a week. Hmmm ?

Weekly = 1 per week or 4 times per month | 30 hrs required
Bi-weekly = every 2 weeks or 2 times a month | 60 hrs required
Monthly = 1 time a month | 120 hrs (4 weeks) required

Those are the terms I know, and I've been in all thoswe categories. I think your SEMI-monthly referes to what I had said previously, and thats bi-weekly or every 2 weeks. You need 30 hrs per week, so if your pay period is 2 weeks, then you need 60 hrs for that pay period.

 

[ju_mark]

I am so confused about this. 2 payterms per week? Never heard of it. The language used here is telling me that you are being paid two times a week. Hmmm ?

Weekly = 1 per week or 4 times per month | 30 hrs required
Bi-weekly = every 2 weeks or 2 times a month | 60 hrs required
Monthly = 1 time a month | 120 hrs (4 weeks) required

Those are the terms I know, and I've been in all thoswe categories. I think your SEMI-monthly referes to what I had said previously, and thats bi-weekly or every 2 weeks. You need 30 hrs per week, so if your pay period is 2 weeks, then you need 60 hrs for that pay period.

Sorry, I am confused AND confusING I made a typo: It needs to read semi-monthly (2 payterms per MONTH). sorry about this. and thanks a lot for the table. this really helps. So my semi-monthly equals 2 times a month. and requires 60 hours. You are awesome. Thanks for the clarification

 

[CEC2013]

Sorry, I am confused AND confusING I made a typo: It needs to read semi-monthly (2 payterms per MONTH). sorry about this. and thanks a lot for the table. this really helps. So my semi-monthly equals 2 times a month. and requires 60 hours. You are awesome. Thanks for the clarification

No problems...

So, if it says semi-monthly....what if you started work on the 2 week? Wouldnt the pay periods get all messed up. You are paid every 2 weeks in a month. Well, the second pay period would fall out of the month. Lol Thats why they use bi-weekly, as in every 2 weeks. 8)

I get ya tho. Just my OCD for terminology. :-X

 

[ju_mark]

No problems...

So, if it says semi-monthly....what if you started work on the 2 week? Wouldnt the pay periods get all messed up. You are paid every 2 weeks in a month. Well, the second pay period would fall out of the month. Lol Thats why they use bi-weekly, as in every 2 weeks. 8)

I get ya tho. Just my OCD for terminology. :-X

yes, that's exactly why I got confused:

bi-weekly: paid every two weeks = 26 payterms year
semi-monthly: paid twice a month (payterm1: day 1-15 /payterm 2: day 16 to 31) = 24 payterms per year

What confuses me: according to you for both options 60 hours are required?