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question about residency calculation

paspas

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Thank you for stopping by. I have a question about resident days and the residency calculator on CIC website.

I came to Canada for university in September 2006. I finished my study and got a job in April 2012. I applied for PR under CEC program and am in process (just done my medical exam). .

I used the residence calculator on CIC website to see how long do I need to become a citizen, I put down today's date as the permanent residence date as well as the application date (the calculator doesn't allow me to put a future date). The calculator shows ~700 days of residency. I get this one because only 4 years preceding the application are counted

It also says I can apply for citizenship in February 2016. However, According to the basic residence requirement:

"You must live in Canada for three (3) years (1,095 days) within the four (4) years (1,460 days) immediately before applying for citizenship."

If I already have ~700 days, don't I just need 1095-700= ~395 more days before I apply for citizenship? Why does it say I will meet the basic residence requirement on 2016-02-25?

Thanks in advance for your help!
 

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You need 395 more days. But it's not like you can apply in 395 days from now. I'm assuming that the current calculation is counting your pre-PR days at 1/2. So as you go forward, you would gain 1/2 a day, not a whole day. This is because the 1/2 day you gain as a pre-PR comes off the book while you gain one full day. Hence the net is 1/2 day you gained for your RO for each day going forward. This is until the beginning of your 4 years passes the date you became a PR. Then you would gain a full day.

I hope that made sense :)
 

paspas

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keesio said:
You need 395 more days. But it's not like you can apply in 395 days from now. I'm assuming that the current calculation is counting your pre-PR days at 1/2. So as you go forward, you would gain 1/2 a day, not a whole day. This is because the 1/2 day you gain as a pre-PR comes off the book while you gain one full day. Hence the net is 1/2 day you gained for your RO for each day going forward. This is until the beginning of your 4 years passes the date you became a PR. Then you would gain a full day.

I hope that made sense :)
Thanks Keesio for your quick reply.

If I understand correctly, let's say if I become a PR on June 1, 2014, I still have 730 existing residence days. Does that mean from then on, I need to stay in Canada for 395 more full days in order to apply for citizenship? That would mean I'll be eligible on July 1, 2015, hypothetically :p
 

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paspas said:
Thanks Keesio for your quick reply.

If I understand correctly, let's say if I become a PR on June 1, 2014, I still have 730 existing residence days. Does that mean from then on, I need to stay in Canada for 395 more full days in order to apply for citizenship? That would mean I'll be eligible on July 1, 2015, hypothetically :p
Assuming your become a PR on June 1, 2014, you can apply for citizenship June 1, 2016 under CURRENT rules. This assumes you have NOT stepped foot outside Canada from June 1, 2012 - June 1, 2016.

From June 1, 2012 - June 1, 2014 you get 365 days (Each pre-PR day counted at 0.5)
From June 1, 2014 - June 1, 2016 you get 730 days (Each PR day counted as 1 full day)

365 + 730 = 1095
 

paspas

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keesio said:
Assuming your become a PR on June 1, 2014, you can apply for citizenship June 1, 2016 under CURRENT rules. This assumes you have NOT stepped foot outside Canada from June 1, 2012 - June 1, 2016.

From June 1, 2012 - June 1, 2014 you get 365 days (Each pre-PR day counted at 0.5)
From June 1, 2014 - June 1, 2016 you get 730 days (Each PR day counted as 1 full day)

365 + 730 = 1095
ahh now I understand. Basically one needs to be a PR for at least 2 years before applying for citizenship, no matter how long he/she stayed in Cananda pre-PR time :(:(
 

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paspas said:
ahh now I understand. Basically one needs to be a PR for at least 2 years before applying for citizenship, no matter how long he/she stayed in Cananda pre-PR time :(:(
Right. It's because you can only go as far back as 4 years. Any time you have before then doesn't count at all. It is impossible to get your 1095 days in a 4 year stretch if at least 2 years of those 4 is not full PR days.