question about getting PR through child due to pattern is unable raising child

[lily820]

Hello, everyone,

the question I got is kind of tricky, also quite emotional overwhelming,
I am here to listening yours opinion and solutions if you holding any.
Thank you.

I am currently a full time international student studying in Portland, OR, US. I am currently holding Chinese passport, having a valid Canadian travel visa not going to expire till Sept, 2014.
I am will finish my associated degree in community college by December, 2013, in three more months.

I got pregnant from a Canadian citizen during one of my monthly visit to Vancouver area earlier this summer, and currently a few weeks over my first trimester.

The situation is tricky because:
1. My parents only offer certain amount of supports, means they are not able to take care my child until I pay for it.

2. My canadian partner and I currently are both unwilling getting married.

3. My canadian partner has rapid cycle of Bipolar type I, currently are unable emotionally and financially taking care the child.

4. Because of my country's specially One Child Policy rule, it's very difficult for me going through the labor in China, I need a special card in order to deliver in hospital.

5.If I am willing to pay the labor and hospital out of pocket, is that possible for me later applying PR or working permeant through the child, due to my partner's mental problem not able to take care the child.
While the child has his/her right able received the public welfare from the government: such as medical care and education.
Also, he/she need a guidance, care, and love be there for the child as he/she growing up.



I read quite some information both on this forum and the immigration page from Canada in the last few months, I understand the only way so far is I can apply the PR is after the child is 18, letting him apply PR for me.

 

[steaky]

Why don't you deliver the baby in the states, such that the baby could get American citizenship by birth and Canadian citizenship through decent (if eligible)?

 

[lily820]

Because my US visa is only valid as long as I maintaining my school, that means my US student F1 visa will be expired by the December I am graduating.

I honesty just want able to support myself and my child in the case that the father is not eligible any time soon becoming a parent.

Thanks for your suggestion.

 

[Leon]

Having a child in Canada will not give you status in Canada. The parent of the child being Canadian will not give you any status either. The only way is for your child's father to either marry you or live together for 12 months to qualify as common law partners and then sponsor you. Your partner may not be in active bankruptcy or on welfare. Immigration must be convinced that your relationship is genuine and that you can support yourselves and your child whether it's you working or him.

Another way would be for you to get a job offer and a work permit in Canada. Can your partners family help you get a job offer? Preferably it should be a skilled job and have something to do with your education. If you manage to work a skilled job in Canada on a work permit for a year full time (30 hrs. a week or more) you can apply for your own immigration.

Otherwise, you can look into options to stay in the US, to get a work permit there and have your child there.

Or you could look into furthering your studies in Canada, getting a study permit and off campus work permit, later post-grad work permit after you graduate and surely a way to apply for your immigration at the end if you play your cards right. However, you would have to be able to swing all that with a child in tow and it may not be easy.

 

[lily820]

Hello, Leon,

Thank you for the options you mentioned.

I did look up the detail requirement of common law partners, studying in BC, requirement of working permits ( since the birth father is lives in Vancouver)

Unfortunately, both me and the birth father are still very young, and not in loved anymore.
The marriage is not possible for both of us right now.

I do considering moving school, transferring college credits up to BC. Or choosing between abortion/open adoption.

Other reason, I decided to share the situation since my situation is not very common, and I do hope NO other people will be in my situation again. It's such a painful way giving up the child before evening trying raising him/her up.


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The confused part is saying, my visa will be expired after the birth of child, and I will be deported from Canada. If the child is not going to China with me, the birth father is not eligible be the primary care giver, that means, my kid is going straight to foster home. That just sounds horrified to me.

 

[scylla]

The confused part is saying, my visa will be expired after the birth of child, and I will be deported from Canada. If the child is not going to China with me, the birth father is not eligible be the primary care giver, that means, my kid is going straight to foster home. That just sounds horrified to me.

Why do you think you wouldn't take the child with you to China? If the father can't suppor the child, then it should be fairly easly for you to obtain sole custody and take the child with you when you return home.

The information Leon has given you is accurate. You won't be allowed to remain in Canada by virtue of giving birth to a child in Canada.

 

[Leon]

If you go to Canada on a visitor visa to give birth to your child, your visit status is only good for 6 months. Your child will be Canadian but you will not be allowed to stay in Canada just because your child has a Canadian passport. That doesn't mean you have to leave the child behind when you go. You can of course take it with you.

If you are no longer in a relationship with the father and he is not in any shape to help you with the child, it would be difficult for you trying to do your studies and immigrate to Canada at the same time. If you enter Canada in Dec. this year, you have until June next year to leave Canada or apply to extend your status or change it to something else. Are your parents paying for you to stay in Canada until then? Are they paying for the hospital bills? If you want to stay in Canada, you would have to find a college and apply for a study permit, showing funds to support yourself and your child and pay your tuition. You would also have to find child care. If you complete a 2 year degree in Canada, you could get up to a 3 year work permit. That should be enough time for you to find a skilled job and work for a year so you can apply for your immigration. All the while, you'd need the money to pay for your tuition, child care and living expenses.

 

[lily820]

Hello, Scylia,

I guess I will always have the option bring the child back to China if it's necessary. I made the mistake not protecting myself first place, now having to choose between the dilemmas.

I am not planning staying in Canada for a long term, I am simply trying looking for solutions and different ideas trying to find the best fit.
Also, I am trying my best to make it possible for my child to meet his father as often as possible.
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By the way, having the child in China right now is not an option for me. Due to the one child policy, the government require a slip of paper/ provement that I never had child before, in order to get that, I need prove a marriage certificate, or I can have it done in private hospital.

 

[lily820]

To Leon,
Yes, my family still have the founding to pay my school bill and my hospital bill, since I am an adult now, (not fully independent yet), they definitely have their own life, and did not able to support both me and my kid forever.

I will be completed a two year college program by the end of Dec. I am on my way to Vancouver right now, maybe I will look up more information about transferring most of my credits up to Canada, while maybe taking a few extra classes, getting a two year certificate, and working permit.


Thanks for your information.

 

[lily820]

Honesty, I am not sure what the result going to be,

keep my child, and trying myself, and giving up my right being a mom.

Though hopefully there is no other girl in a similar situation like me, I really encouraging anyone facing the similar situation listening to your heart, and not afraid of growing up together with your child.

Please do not be afraid.
Please not take all the stress on your own, there is always a community or a friend/family you trust, they would love to listen to you, and try their best helping you.
Please believe there is always a hope, and tomorrow will be better today.

Growing up is so painful, it also make me becoming a stronger person.

With love and big hugs

 

[scylla]

I will be completed a two year college program by the end of Dec. I am on my way to Vancouver right now, maybe I will look up more information about transferring most of my credits up to Canada, while maybe taking a few extra classes, getting a two year certificate, and working permit.

Note that you will only receive a post graduate work permit for the time you actually spend studying in Canada (not for your transfer credits). Also, you must have a minimum of 8 months of full time study to qualify for a post graduate work permit.

 

[lily820]

Ok, got it,

minimum 8 months of full time student, thank you.

 

[scylla]

Just to add - if your long term plan is to obtain PR status in Canada and stay long term, then I would strongly recommend that you complete two years of full time studies in Canada.

If you complete 2 years of full time studies, this will give you a three year post graduate work permit. A 3 year post graduate work permit will give you the highest chance of obtaining 1 year of skilled work experience and qualify to apply for PR through th CEC program.