Question 9.C Quebec

[Empirical-Scientist]

Hi folks,

As I do not reside in Quebec, I checked NO in the first part of question 9.C. Back to the conundrum of "N/A"'s...: what did you guys do with the second question of 9.C, i.e. "Do you authorize Citizenship and Immigration Canada to forward your name, address, gender and date of birth to the Chief Electoral Officer of Québec so that this information can be added to the permanent list?"

I left either unchecked, but I've read somewhere here we should still check NO -- that doesn't seem reasonable. What's your take?

 

[chelavnzuo]

I'd check Yes to the 2nd part. Quebec is still Canada, so you should consent to let CIC share your information with another government body.

Hi folks,

As I do not reside in Quebec, I checked NO in the first part of question 9.C. Back to the conundrum of "N/A"'s...: what did you guys do with the second question of 9.C, i.e. "Do you authorize Citizenship and Immigration Canada to forward your name, address, gender and date of birth to the Chief Electoral Officer of Québec so that this information can be added to the permanent list?"

I left either unchecked, but I've read somewhere here we should still check NO -- that doesn't seem reasonable. What's your take?

 

[FL1040]

I'd check Yes to the 2nd part. Quebec is still Canada, so you should consent to let CIC share your information with another government body.

Quebec is still in Canada, but you can only vote in QC or any other province as long as you are living in that province..so check NO, since you do not live in Quebec. Check yes for Elections Canada, which is the federal agency that oversees federal elections and as soon as you are Canadian citizen you can register with the provincial agency that organizes provincial and local elections. Those are options CIC gives you to make your life easier, it´s up to you and they have no influence on the processing of the application. The only item that you should check yes is the one about CIC requesting a report to CBSA because that will speed things up a bit, otherwise you´ll have to get the report yourself and mail it, so let them do the job for you.

 

[chelavnzuo]

The thing is you never know whether you will reside in Quebec in the future or not, maybe you meet someone, maybe your job transfers you there, and it won't hurt if you check Yes.

Quebec is still in Canada, but you can only vote in QC or any other province as long as you are living in that province..so check no, since you do not live in Quebec. Check yes for Elections Canada, which is the federal agency that oversees federal elections and as soon as you are Canadian citizen you can register with the provincial agency that organizes provincial and local elections. Those are options CIC gives you to make your life easier, it´s up to you and they have no influence on the processing of the application. The only item that you should check yes is the one about CIC requesting a report to CBSA because that will speed things up a bit, otherwise you´ll have to get the report yourself and mail it, so let them do the job for you.

 

[FL1040]

The thing is you never know whether you will reside in Quebec in the future or not, maybe you meet someone, maybe your job transfers you there, and it won't hurt if you check Yes.

Wrong...the thing is that for you to vote in any province you MUST be a factual resident of that province, your registration is not based on possibilities or hypothesis but on actually living permanently in the province

Question 9C

Check whether you reside (live) in Quebec.

If yes, indicate whether you authorize CIC to provide your name, address, gender and date of birth to the Chief Electoral Officer of Québec so that your name can be added to the Permanent List of Electors (voters).

If you do not provide the authorization, you will have to go to the revision office and present two supporting documents to register your name on the list of electors to be able to vote in a provincial, municipal or school election.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/CIT0002ETOC.asp#CIT0002E5


Entry on the permanent list of electors

Outside an election period, you must contact our Information centre to obtain an application for entry form, complete it, append the photocopy of two identification documents and return it to the address indicated on the postage-paid reply envelope.

If your application for entry is accepted, you will receive a confirmation of entry.

Conditions that must be met:

be 18 years of age or older;
be a Canadian citizen;
have been domiciled in Québec for six months;
not be under curatorship;
not have been convicted of a corrupt electoral practice.
http://www.electionsquebec.qc.ca/english/provincial/list-of-electors/entry-on-the-permanent-list-of-electors.php


If you click YES you are telling CIC that you comply with Quebec electoral law and are eligible to register as a voter, this means that if you live outside QC you are providing false information, and that may get you a RQ or the application rejected because you are giving a mailing information in a province that is not Quebec yet you intent to register in QC as a voter, not to mention that you have to declare your addresses over the last four years, and if the agent sees that you have not lived in Quebec he/she will be suspicious about why you would want to be registered in Quebec when you don´t live there.

So, I suggest to check NO and avoid a whole array of possible problems.

 

[Empirical-Scientist]

To clarify, there are two parts to that question. I've checked NO on the first part because I don't reside in Quebec. Should I leave the second part unchecked, i.e. neither YES, nor NO?

 

[FL1040]

To clarify, there are two parts to that question. I've checked NO on the first part because I don't reside in Quebec. Should I leave the second part unchecked, i.e. neither YES, nor NO?

The second part refers to Elections Canada, check either, if you check YES CIC will register you so you can vote in federal elections and you don´t have to do anything, if you check NO then you won´t be registered but if you wish to vote in federal elections, which is a right Canadians citizens have, you´ll have to register by yourself, I suggest to click yes so there will be less paperwork for you to do, not to mention that you should vote in 2015 so we can send Harper packing, especially after the gift he gave us...the new Citizinship Law

 

[Empirical-Scientist]

The second part refers to Elections Canada, check either, if you check YES CIC will register you so you can vote in federal elections and you don´t have to do anything, if you check NO then you won´t be registered but if you wish to vote in federal elections, which is a right Canadians citizens have, you´ll have to register by yourself, I suggest to click yes so there will be less paperwork for you to do, not to mention that you should vote in 2015 so we can send Harper packing, especially after the gift he gave us...the new Citizinship Law

That's not Elections Canada, but the Chief Electoral office of Quebec... If you check NO, it means you reside in Quebec, but don't give consent. I mean, it could be interpreted both ways...

 

[FL1040]

That's not Elections Canada, but the Chief Electoral office of Quebec... If you check NO, it means you reside in Quebec, but don't give consent. I mean, it could be interpreted both ways...

Check NO either way, the approval of the application will not be based on that criterion, voting is not mandatory in Canada, you don´t live in Quebec so it´s up to you whether you want to be registered or not... I cannot be any more explicit and clear..if still in doubt call CIC and ask

 

[chelavnzuo]

I think you misunderstood my reply, what I said was:

Check "No" to 9C part1 if you don't reside in Quebec.

Check "Yes" to 9C part2 because it will let CIC share your information with the Quebec government just in case you might end up living in Quebec in the future, even if you don't, it still won't hurt.

Wrong...the thing is that for you to vote in any province you MUST be a factual resident of that province, your registration is not based on possibilities or hypothesis but on actually living permanently in the province

Question 9C

Check whether you reside (live) in Quebec.

If yes, indicate whether you authorize CIC to provide your name, address, gender and date of birth to the Chief Electoral Officer of Québec so that your name can be added to the Permanent List of Electors (voters).

If you do not provide the authorization, you will have to go to the revision office and present two supporting documents to register your name on the list of electors to be able to vote in a provincial, municipal or school election.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/CIT0002ETOC.asp#CIT0002E5


Entry on the permanent list of electors

Outside an election period, you must contact our Information centre to obtain an application for entry form, complete it, append the photocopy of two identification documents and return it to the address indicated on the postage-paid reply envelope.

If your application for entry is accepted, you will receive a confirmation of entry.

Conditions that must be met:

be 18 years of age or older;
be a Canadian citizen;
have been domiciled in Québec for six months;
not be under curatorship;
not have been convicted of a corrupt electoral practice.
http://www.electionsquebec.qc.ca/english/provincial/list-of-electors/entry-on-the-permanent-list-of-electors.php


If you click YES you are telling CIC that you comply with Quebec electoral law and are eligible to register as a voter, this means that if you live outside QC you are providing false information, and that may get you a RQ or the application rejected because you are giving a mailing information in a province that is not Quebec yet you intent to register in QC as a voter, not to mention that you have to declare your addresses over the last four years, and if the agent sees that you have not lived in Quebec he/she will be suspicious about why you would want to be registered in Quebec when you don´t live there.

So, I suggest to check NO and avoid a whole array of possible problems.

 

[FL1040]

Check "Yes" to 9C part2 because it will let CIC share your information with the Quebec government just in case you might end up living in Quebec in the future, even if you don't, it still won't hurt.

Wrong again, you cannot register to vote in a province based on eventually living there, or the distant possibility of living there or "if one of these days...", you must actually live in the province (note the use of the PRESENT TENSE) to register and vote.....if you check YES to the Quebec item you are tacitly saying that you do live there, which is false information if you do not list a present address in the province of Quebed....however you slice it...if you do not ive presently in Quebec you must check NO in order to avoid providing false information to CIC and avoid having further problems

 

[chelavnzuo]

damn these citizenship application questions are trickier than my university final exams!

 

[FL1040]

damn these citizenship application questions are trickier than my university final exams!

Not really, all it requires is to read the instructions, and use common sense along with factual information...no I am wondering to what university you went or what you studied

LOL !!

 

[Empirical-Scientist]

...if you do not ive presently in Quebec you must check NO in order to avoid providing false information to CIC and avoid having further problems

Not quite. Here's what the guide says:

Question 9C Check whether you reside (live) in Quebec.

If yes, indicate whether you authorize CIC to provide your name, address, gender and date of birth to the Chief Electoral Officer of Québec so that your name can be added to the Permanent List of Electors (voters).

If you do not provide the authorization, you will have to go to the revision office and present two supporting documents to register your name on the list of electors to be able to vote in a provincial, municipal or school election.

The highlighted part ("If yes") is a precondition to checking either of the other two boxes. Thus, checking NO means that you live in Quebec, but do not provide authorization to the Electoral Officer of Quebec...

 

[FL1040]

Not quite. Here's what the guide says:

Question 9C Check whether you reside (live) in Quebec.

If yes, indicate whether you authorize CIC to provide your name, address, gender and date of birth to the Chief Electoral Officer of Québec so that your name can be added to the Permanent List of Electors (voters).

If you do not provide the authorization, you will have to go to the revision office and present two supporting documents to register your name on the list of electors to be able to vote in a provincial, municipal or school election.

The highlighted part ("If yes") is a precondition to checking either of the other two boxes. Thus, checking NO means that you live in Quebec, but do not provide authorization to the Electoral Officer of Quebec...

That´s why I said it is an option, you decide whether to authorize CIC to give your data to Elections Quebec, with the presumption that you actually and presently live in Quebec, first you must say if you actually and presently live in QC, if you do then you have the option of allowing CIC to send your data to Elections Quebec and get registered as a voter or not, my point is that clicking yes to state that you live in Quebec and getting registered here without actually living here amounts to providing false information because you cannot register based on the possibility of living here in the future, which is what chelavnzuo suggests