Proof of Relationship

[BostonGirl]

Just how do we prove we are truly in love and have been for a long time?

How many pictures? Do they have to be pic of us both in the picture? or of us on vacation too (seperate because we took them of eachother)?

I have no way to prove how many days we spent on MSN.

Do they want to read our love notes?

Any advice would be apreciated, we did not imagine we would have to prove our love when we fell for eachother.

 

[rrdiggy76]

Hi,

With photographs, whether it's vacation photos or otherwise, even if you are separate in each one, would still show you were together. Common backdrops/sights/friends would show this, that's what i have had to do for some of mine as we were in the same location/event, but we would take a photo of each other.

Obviously, photo's together are the best. As for quantity, i have no idea. We have so far 'picked a selection' of around 180 from our first meeting right up to our wedding. No idea if this is enough or too much and we have no more than 4 or 5 for each occasion. It's remarkable just how many present themselves when you sit down and start cataloguing the time together.

Letters and cards sent to each other would be good, in fact the application forms ask for evidence of them if applicable. You can scan or copy these to send with your application and mention you have kept the originals because of the high sentimental value. If they want to see the originals, i'd like to think they'd ask.

Any email, screen shots of old conversations or history, even if it shows a date in the past, can all be found and collected even if you didn't actively save everything, it just takes a little bit of digging around in your computers history etc to find. MSN may keep a chat history stored in temporary files unless deleted, but i'm not sure about this.

Even small quantities of evidence will accumulate with variety.

 

[BostonGirl]

We had no camera for a while, so only like 44 pics.
Thanks for the MSN advise, i'll ask them.
I no longer have my old computer so alot has been lost

 

[dlee31]

Any advice would be apreciated, we did not imagine we would have to prove our love when we fell for eachother.

Tell me about it!! I would have done a lot more saving if I knew it would all be needed as "proof" someday. Anyway...

The important thing is not how many pictures you have but that they show the genuineness and continuation of your relationship.

I picked 1-3 photos from each season/event throughout the year and pasted them in chronological order onto blank A4 sized sheets of paper.
(personal example: from Christmas 2006, New Year's 2007, trip to BC in summer 2007, various rodeos in summer 2007, Christmas 2008...)
I made sure some of the photos had other family members and friends in them, too, and wrote the following information for each one:
*When it was taken
*Where it was taken
*Who took it (especially for the ones where only one of us was in the picture)
*Who is in it (and their relationship to me or my husband)

Same thing for emails: I tried to show that we had an ongoing relationship and that we did our best to talk at least 2-3 times a week, despite being so far apart from each other.
You can filter your inbox to show only those sent/received from your fiance and print it, then highlight the first correspondence date to show them you've been keeping in touch since whenever. You can also print 2-3 especially significant (read: loving, caring, affectionate, gooey, emotional) emails.

Here are some other things I added:
*photocopy of front page of husband's graduate thesis (he had written a very nice dedication to me)
*birthday and congratulatory cards from in-laws
*captured screens from my Facebook account, where a lot of mutual friends had left their congrats/best wishes messages
*photocopies of letters (they were kind of personal, but I figured better safe than sorry)
*emails from mom-in-law, aunts, uncles, friends

It's a pain, but do the best with what you have and feel free to PM me if you need any help

 

[rob_187]

My wife on may 5th got her PR visa. For the proofs, include anything and everything, don't leave anything out as this is your life together with your spouse that this is for. Anything you think might be valuable you should include it.

Here are some suggestions that worked for my wife and I (shes from the philippines)

Tickets from all the times I visited, chat logs of convorsations and emails, phone call recrods, all the pictures you are willing to send (they do send it all back to you on completion of your case), also, neighbors of both your spouse and you, have them write a letter (can be typed) and sign it on the bottom stating things such as "we have known them for this long, and would love to see them together, she/he always talks about...and list the name" this shows CIC that you and your husband are in love and share it with the people closest to you, any document you have that can help, i included receipts, bording passes, just about everything. I hope this helps you, dont be afraid to include a lot of things.

 

[mirkopal]

i have also added a little draw that the 6 ys old nephew of my boyfriend did with all of us together.. (she draw the family members and wrote name on that)

i have also sent the hotel receipts and other stuffs (plane tickets with same destination etc)

in total I sent 5 kg of stuff

 

[sbwv09]

If you think you're short of evidence, you can have a person on his side and a person on your side write a statement saying they know you are a legit couple, you spent X holiday together, they attended your wedding, etc.

Also remember it's not too late to start now.. not saying to fabricate anything, but they do sometimes ask for more evidence from after you sent in your application, and if you are newly married, it's important to show contact after the marriage as well as before.

 

[untitled]

I sponsored my husband from the UK and from start to finish our time line was July 27th when we sent the forms to Mississauga to January 9th when he landed and we did not go over board on our letters or photos. We sent in about 12 photos of our 4 holidays together including a couple from our wedding. Receipts from plane tickets and hotels stubs, a few emails and letter. We only had 8 people in total at our wedding including the commissioner who presided over it and there was no interview.

I think if your application is uncomplicated like ours you just need a sample of everything.

 

[BostonGirl]

We can get a letter from our landlord (We had our own place Jan 1st - Apr 30th)

I have emails from his parents, but they are all advising me not to come there and date him.
Well, all the ones from before Jan 1st.

We have little proof of our relationship before then because we were hiding our relationship
from his parents. I met him a couple days before his 17th b-day.
He is now 18 but I am 31. It is our bad luck that we have this age difference.

Can I call our longdistance phone provider to get a record?
If they give that to me I can prove we spend all our time on the phone

 

[sbwv09]

Yes, try to get those phone logs, they are important if that is how you communicate. It may be a tough road since you hid your relationship, the families don't approve and the large age difference. Even if it's just friends, you can have them write letters of support. Get as much as you have together, because you will probably need it. Also be prepared for an interview in your case, due to all of the factors.

You may need to check out the age of consent laws. If you say you started your relationship before he was 17, that might be illegal and hurt your case. I know most places the age of consent is 16 but that's something you may want to look into. I don't know the age of consent for Canada.

 

[Veronica55]

Info: Proof of Relationship

Dear Boston Girl , I hope to share short info to give you an idea What my husband and I did is to send our pictures , of course , together and together with our friends too, wedding pictures , vacation photos-- all pics not inside an album, just loose and about less than 50 pcs..significant ones .. We enclosed also print outs of selected email exchanges and chat text from yahoo messenger . Plus phone bills and bills of our fedex courier to each other Good luck to your application too

 

[BostonGirl]

We did not start our "relationship" till he was 17 and it was not physical till Kan 1st, 4 months till he turned 18.
It is legal in BC.

His parents now approve and my whole family approves as well.
I spent time with his family when we were living together the beginning of this year.
Now that they see how good we are for eachother, they have changed their mind.
I think we can get them to write a letter for us, and his dad is a minister, that might help.

 

[Veronica55]

To Mr. Rob 187: Proof of Relationship

My wife on may 5th got her PR visa. For the proofs, include anything and everything, don't leave anything out as this is your life together with your spouse that this is for. Anything you think might be valuable you should include it.

Here are some suggestions that worked for my wife and I (shes from the philippines)

Tickets from all the times I visited, chat logs of convorsations and emails, phone call recrods, all the pictures you are willing to send (they do send it all back to you on completion of your case), also, neighbors of both your spouse and you, have them write a letter (can be typed) and sign it on the bottom stating things such as "we have known them for this long, and would love to see them together, she/he always talks about...and list the name" this shows CIC that you and your husband are in love and share it with the people closest to you, any document you have that can help, i included receipts, bording passes, just about everything. I hope this helps you, dont be afraid to include a lot of things.

Hello Mr. Rob.. How long did you and your wife take to receive her PR visa as you got hers on May 5 .??? When did you submit documents to CIC in Misassauga ?? Can you please share your processing time frame?? I am from the Philippines also. My visa is still in process and my husband and I are really very optimistic to get my visa very soon Your kind idea will be of good help . Thank you and best wishes to you and your wife

 

[sbwv09]

Good deal then I had my mother and my mother in law both write letters. Basically they included stuff about how we told them how we met, spent time together, times when we met, our wedding, etc. My dad is a pastor and I had my mom mention that he walked me down the aisle and blessed our marriage and wouldn't ever condone marriage unless it was for love, etc.

 

[BostonGirl]

Awesome point sbwv89!
A minister would never condone a marriage that was not genuine,
especially for his own son

Everyone has been very helpful