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PR - I almost feel scammed

Gabriel_75

Newbie
Feb 28, 2012
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I moved to Canada in 2008 on a student visa to pursue my Masters degree in Montreal, Quebec.
I am currently going through the immigration process to obtain my Permanent Residency
with the intentions of one day becoming a full Canadian Citizen. I have recently hit a wall with regards
to the immigration process and I do not know what to do. A friend of mine
suggested I write on this forum in the hopes that someone could give me some help
or support. Here is my story:

I started the immigration process in Montreal, Quebec in November 2009. At the
time, I was completing my Masters degree at McGill University.
After successfully completing my Quebec immigration interview in
April 2010, I received my Quebec Selection Certificate (CSQ) and then started
the process with the Federal Government.

After graduating with my Masters degree in May 2010, I applied to many
different Quebec-based companies related to my field and even had several
interviews, but the final consensus with each one was that I was over qualified
for the job. A professor of mine at McGill University recommended me for a
teaching contract at a College in Toronto, which I applied for and got.
Six months later, I also began working in CTV. I have now been living and working in Toronto
for just under a year and a half.

At this point, my immigration application has been going on for two and a half
years and I am finally in the last stage of obtaining my Permanent Residency,
having gone through my medical examinations and having already paid the Right
of Permanent Residency Fee. Couple of days ago, I received a letter from the Quebec
government stating that unless I could prove otherwise, they were going to
cancel my CSQ within fifty days because I am not living in Quebec and therefore
have not proven my intentions to reside in the province. This means that my
Permanent Residency application is at stake. I have invested a lot of time and
money into this process and I am afraid that if I have to restart, my work
permit will expire before I receive my Permanent Residency and I would not only
have to give up my jobs, but also leave the country.

I strongly feel that I am what Canada looks for in an immigrant. I am well
educated, fluent in the language, hold a Masters degree from a Canadian
university, work in my field of study, and uphold good Canadian values. I feel
that I followed every procedure by the book and I do not see how I could have
done things differently. In 2009, when I applied for my Permanent Residency and
expressed my honest intentions to reside in Quebec, I was studying there and I
truthfully believed I would end up working and living in the province. How was
I to foresee that a year later I would receive a good job offer in a different
province? Should I instead have taken a minimum-wage, dead-end job just to stay
in Quebec? I am in a specialized field, I am ambitious and hard working, and I
have always prioritized my career over my location. This is why I moved to
Canada in the first place.

The end result is that I want to become a Canadian Citizen, so I find it
completely counter-intuitive that I can be bound to any one province for the
entire duration (two and a half years, so far) of this immigration process,
especially since it was never made clear to me that by “intending” to live in a
province, it actually meant that I was not allowed to reside outside of that
province under any circumstances. To be so close to obtaining my Permanent
Residency and after all of the time, effort, and money I have spent on it, it
seems unfathomable that it can be taken away in this manner. I am at a loss as
to what to do, so I turn to you for any support or advice you could give me.

Thank you very much for your time and attention.
 

owlowl2005

Star Member
Feb 18, 2012
78
4
Sydney, Australia
Category........
Visa Office......
Sydney
NOC Code......
1122
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
07-07-2011
Doc's Request.
All sent with application
AOR Received.
28-09-2011
IELTS Request
Submitted together with application (8.5 Band)
File Transfer...
17-10-2011
Med's Request
12-07-2012
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
?
VISA ISSUED...
?
LANDED..........
?
I am sorry to hear about your circumstances, I would suggest that you prepare yourself for the worst and get ready to re-apply using your current employment.

From Quebec point of view, they support your PR application because they would expect you to contribute back to Quebec. I would have the same feeling as you, but I guess it's better to be prepared for the worsk case scenario.

All the best for your PR application
 

SenoritaBella

VIP Member
Jan 2, 2012
3,673
194
Category........
Visa Office......
Dakar
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
08-01-2014
AOR Received.
12-02-2014
File Transfer...
25-02-2014
Med's Request
02-11-2015
Med's Done....
18-09-2013
Passport Req..
02-11-2015
VISA ISSUED...
hopefully soon
LANDED..........
hopefully soon
Sorry to hear about your circumstances. Unfortunately, because you now live and work in Ontario your intentions to reside in Quebec are questionnable.

I don't know that resigning your job and returning to Quebec will do you much good. How will you convince them? Perhaps if you can get a steady job in Quebec within the next 50 days it could make a difference - I don't know. If you have a spouse and kids still residing in Quebec, perhaps you can use this as proof? Consult a lawyer.

If things don't work out, consider the Canadian Experience Class as well as the Ontario provincial nominee program. It is costly, but will be helpful with the work permit situation.
 

unaseem

Hero Member
Nov 26, 2008
202
12
Calgary,AB
Visa Office......
Buffalo
App. Filed.......
11 April 2011
Doc's Request.
RPRF and updated history on FEb 20, 2013
Nomination.....
PNP -Alberta
AOR Received.
Sept 2,2011
File Transfer...
16 MAY 2012 to Ottawa and In process on 26 July 2012
Med's Request
Sept 29,2011
Med's Done....
OCT 06,2011
Interview........
N/A
Passport Req..
March 15, 2013
VISA ISSUED...
MARCH 27, 2013
LANDED..........
APRIL 06, 2013
@Gabriel_75

when u moved to toronto . did you chnage ur address in CIC file from Quebec to ontario-Only thing I wanna know how qecbec guys know that u are living in ontario-----My friend has similar story like ur ---he moved away from his province of nomination ----please let me know how CSQ knows ?
 

doodlebar

Member
Jun 8, 2008
10
0
When you signed papers for quebec nomination, you were bound to work in that province at leasrt untill you receive your PR. Now province have all the rights to cancel your nomination because you are not contributing to province. Better come to saskatchewan and apply under sinp. best of luck.
 

sam-canada

Star Member
Oct 12, 2011
64
0
Category........
Visa Office......
Amman
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
October-2014
File Transfer...
January-2015
I think quebec people were able to find out from income tax return because there is collaboration between canada revenue agency and immigration quebec and cic... thats my best guess

gabriel when did you file your income tax return for 2011???
 

hooky player

Star Member
Jan 12, 2012
122
4
montreal
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
10-2011
Doc's Request.
no
Nomination.....
10-2011
AOR Received.
03-2012
IELTS Request
no
File Transfer...
dunno, but ppr from detroit
Med's Request
03-2012
Med's Done....
04-2012
Interview........
no
Passport Req..
06-2012
VISA ISSUED...
18-06-2012, received on June 27th, 2012
i really feel sorry for u, but that's the way the game is being played. unfortunately, i don't think there is much you can do, of course u should try ur best to convince those quebecers that u will stay in quebec, but will they believe u?

one option for you is to reapply,,,but not through quebec skilled worker program!

go to apply CEC, which is faster than qsw (recently applicants got their ppr within 4-5 months), so u should still have enough time to get ur immigration done be4 ur work permit expires. after working for more than 1 year, i think u should be qualified for CEC.
so, if i were u, i would still try to convince quebec govn that i will stay in quebec, making contribution, blahblah,,,,and in the meanwhile, start to gather info about requirements for CEC, and prepare the documents


btw,, i wonder how the hell did quebecois know that u r out of quebec? did you tell them?

income tax could be the reason, but i am just curious and wanna know the exact reason.

Good Luck!
 

ethels

Star Member
Sep 2, 2011
153
3
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
08-09-2011
Doc's Request.
None
Nomination.....
17-08-2011
AOR Received.
03-11-2011 (Processing started on 12-12-2011)
IELTS Request
None
File Transfer...
CPP-O
Med's Request
03-11-2011
Med's Done....
17-11-2011 (ECAS updated to Med received on 12/12/2011)
Interview........
None
Passport Req..
04-01-2012
VISA ISSUED...
01-2012
LANDED..........
02-2012
Not that I am not showing sympathy to your situation, but your situation could've been avoided with a common sense. As soon as you move to Toronto and settles here you should have realized that Quebec nomination will be no good or at risk of being no good. In anticipating this, you could either apply in CEC class if you qualify or Ontario PNP.

There is no need to go at length to describe how you are the "perfect candidate" to immigrate as no one here is to disagree with that. I agree that you are exactly the kind of immigrant that this country needs: educated, employed, paying tax - with the latter being most critical. However, the rule is there and no one in the government, regardless how much respect they have on you and how much they empathize your situation will be able to circumvent the rule.

There is absolutely no need to take this personally. As a mature individual, you should realized that the burden solely rest on you and you should take action immediately to correct it. I suggest that you take an unpaid leave with your employer until your nomination comes out OR start over in Ontario.
 

sam-canada

Star Member
Oct 12, 2011
64
0
Category........
Visa Office......
Amman
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
October-2014
File Transfer...
January-2015
Best Advice I can give is to go fast and apply for provincial nominee (ontario) get the nomination which would be instead of the csq (quebec nomination) and send it to buffalo they may change your application from qsw to provincial nominee... i dont know if buffalo will make u start over but they may be good and continue your application as if you started it as provincial nominee... since u have experience in ontario getting nomination is very fast and easy... try that and see what happens

best of luck
 

munishkumar_gupta

Full Member
Oct 27, 2011
26
0
hello gabriel
sorry to heatr bout your scenario.here u have two options one quebec govt wants you to retuen to their province since u hav been nominated by their province .you cannot go there as is hard to find job there secondly u can apply for ontario pnp under post graduate stream if u have done masters in canada irrespective of any province you can apply for that and see if u get the letter and within eoight months u can get u pr
u can discuss with me if u want to
my email is :munbaba@yahoo.ca
phone is :6479098845
my name is munish
i to live in gta area etobicoke toronto
 

Bachar

Hero Member
Sep 12, 2011
734
54
You have to consult a lawyer, send a letter to David Cohen office or call them, go to the office by yourself
They will find a solution for you or give an advice
You can try to apply for FSW which may be faster now
 

JGK

Star Member
Jul 16, 2010
175
5
124
Vegreville, AB
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo (File Moved to Detroit July 2011)
NOC Code......
0212
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
10-09-2010
Doc's Request.
N/A
Nomination.....
31-05-2010
AOR Received.
N/A
IELTS Request
N/A
File Transfer...
N/A
Med's Request
01-03-2011
Med's Done....
22-03-2011
Interview........
Not required
Passport Req..
13-09-2011
VISA ISSUED...
26-09-2011
LANDED..........
12-10-2011
hooky player said:
btw,, i wonder how the hell did quebecois know that u r out of quebec? did you tell them?

income tax could be the reason, but i am just curious and wanna know the exact reason.

Good Luck!
Probably via the Income tax as if you are a resident of Quebec you have to submit the federal and a separate provincial tax return. In other provinces it is just the single federal tax return form