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PR application in CEC Category

RajGill

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Jan 3, 2013
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Hi Everybody,

I am looking forward to apply for PR under new CEC rules but had few queries in concerns to my eligibility!
1. I came on student visa in 2009 and completed 1yr diploma from Humber College.
2. I worked as Biologist and Biotechnologist Technologist under NOC B category 2122 for 1 year working 35hrs/week which makes 1680 hrs for whole year with my post-graduate work permit?Am I eligible for application
3. I am having my pay slips,reference letter,Tax returns all in place as proof of my work experience.
4. IELTS General Score is overall 7 Bands with L-7.5, R-6.5, W-6.5, S-7!Hoping I meet requirement of CBL in NOC B profession?
5. But contrary to all this CIC website is different- as they ask for 2 yrs of education or 2 years of work experience so where I stand?

Your inputs is highly appreciated!Thanks
 

Johnny31

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2. I worked as Biologist and Biotechnologist Technologist under NOC B category 2122 for 1 year working 35hrs/week which makes 1680 hrs for whole year with my post-graduate work permit?Am I eligible for application
Yes, you are eligible because the new work requirement is 30 hours / week and 1560 hours for a year.
3. I am having my pay slips,reference letter,Tax returns all in place as proof of my work experience.
4. IELTS General Score is overall 7 Bands with L-7.5, R-6.5, W-6.5, S-7!Hoping I meet requirement of CBL in NOC B profession?
NOC 2122 is actually under Skille Level A category, NOT B. But, you are qualified for Skill level A.
5. But contrary to all this CIC website is different- as they ask for 2 yrs of education or 2 years of work experience so where I stand?
The new work requirement is 12 months or 1 year of work experience, so you are ok to apply!


Good Luck!
 

RajGill

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Jan 3, 2013
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Hi Johnny,

Thanks for your reply,but why CIC website is not showing this new eligibility?

Secondly,I think my profession is in B category as per link on HRDC. Could you please clarify it?

Last,I hope there is no capping to rush?

Thanks
Rajdeep
 

Andy2109

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Rajdeep,

I guess you need to refresh your webpage.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/cec/apply-who.asp
 

Johnny31

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RajGill said:
Hi Johnny,

Thanks for your reply,but why CIC website is not showing this new eligibility?

Secondly,I think my profession is in B category as per link on HRDC. Could you please clarify it?

Last,I hope there is no capping to rush?

Thanks
Rajdeep
The new rule is on the website, go through the link below
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/cec/apply-who.asp

Your position is NOC 2122 correct? How you can know the difference between Skill Level A and B is the second number 2122, anything with a 1 is considered Skill Level A. For example: 2122, 3122, 4122 are all Skill Level A positions. If the second number is a "2", then it's considered Skill Level B. For example: 2222, 3212, 4236 are all Skill Level B positions.
 

RajGill

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Jan 3, 2013
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Hi Andy and Johnny,

I am looking at correct CIC webpage but drop down the eligibility tab they have eligibility as worker or eligibility as graduate which confuses me as I dn't fit in any of them.Why they have it their?

Secondly,my post graduate work permit got extended using positive LMO and HRDC listed my job as NOC 2122 thats why I am pretty much sure with the job NOC code but not the category.I hope my IELTS score make me eligible for NOC A category!

Should I start making my application?
 

Johnny31

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RajGill said:
Hi Andy and Johnny,

I am looking at correct CIC webpage but drop down the eligibility tab they have eligibility as worker or eligibility as graduate which confuses me as I dn't fit in any of them.Why they have it their?

Secondly,my post graduate work permit got extended using positive LMO and HRDC listed my job as NOC 2122 thats why I am pretty much sure with the job NOC code but not the category.I hope my IELTS score make me eligible for NOC A category!

Should I start making my application?
If you look at the dates at the bottom right of those two sections (Graduate Stream and Worker), it says 2012-10-03. It means the information is not updated so don't follow what it says on there!

But based on what I hear from you, your IELTS score is good and if you worked more than 12 months, you are eligible and you can start preparing your applications.

Make sure you follow the checklist:
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/forms/IMM5610E.pdf

Good Luck
 

RajGill

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Jan 3, 2013
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Thanks Johnny :D :D,

I just worked for 1yr as Biologist as it was contract position from 1 March 2011 to 29 Feb 2012 in NOC A category!Would you clarify what do you want to hint as more than 12 months.As I worked for 4 weeks but that dsnt fall under O,A,B category?

Should I start making the application and hoping there is no capping on it?

Thanks a lot to you nd Anddy
 

Johnny31

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RajGill said:
Thanks Johnny :D :D,

I just worked for 1yr as Biologist as it was contract position from 1 March 2011 to 29 Feb 2012 in NOC A category!Would you clarify what do you want to hint as more than 12 months.As I worked for 4 weeks but that dsnt fall under O,A,B category?

Should I start making the application and hoping there is no capping on it?

Thanks a lot to you nd Anddy
I should have said 12 months OR more.

Also, there is no CAP for CEC, that's for FSW.

If you worked from 3-1-2011, you'd need to work until 3-1-2012 in order to be count as 1 year by the way. So you would need to have another work experience in a Skill Level 0, A, B position for a few more days in order to be counted as 12 months. I've seen people getting refused due to "miscalculation of work experience days", so you should be careful about that.
 

jes_ON

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RajGill said:
I just worked for 1yr as Biologist as it was contract position from 1 March 2011 to 29 Feb 2012 in NOC A category!Would you clarify what do you want to hint as more than 12 months.
That is exactly 1 year. This SHOULD be accepted. (March 1 to March 1 would be 1 year + 1 day). But if you had any unpaid leave of absence, you wouldn't qualify.

Under the previous guidelines, when "full-time" was 37.5 hours per week, some people miscalculated their "full time equivalent," and were refused for not having enough hours. Other people mistakenly thought that as long as they had enough hours, they didn't need to work a full 12 months - they were refused for not having worked the full year. Still others thought that "processing time" could count toward the 12 months (wrong), and applied too soon (you have to have met all requirements at the time you submit your application).

Because of all these potential errors, and because 12 months is a MINIMUM (not a maximum!) some of us (myself included) advise working a little past 1 year to give yourself some leeway. But in your case, that doesn't sound like an option.

As long as you work at least 30 hours per week, and work a full 52 weeks, then you should be OK.
 

aquareo

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Jan 3, 2013
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Hi there,

I believe that the CIC has not updated the eligibility for skilled worker category to reflect 1 year as the minimum work ex requirement. I was wondering when calculating the 1 year work ex, do they consider stat holidays when you do get paid for but don't actually work e.g. Christmas day. Since there are quite a few stat holidays for which we get paid, I was not sure if those days are subtracted while counting the number of hours you worked.
In my specific case, I worked from Feb 23, 2012 to June 26, 2012 in one organization @ 37.5 hr/week
Then from June 27, 2012 I started working in a different organization @ 35 hr/week
I was wondering when can I be eligible to apply under CEC with the new rules in place?
Thanks for your time.
Aquareo
 

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RajGill said:
2. I worked as Biologist and Biotechnologist Technologist under NOC B category 2122 for 1 year working 35hrs/week which makes 1680 hrs for whole year with my post-graduate work permit?Am I eligible for application
You had better figure out what NOC is correct. Even though both are "skilled," people have been refused for getting it wrong. Don't go by job title, determine which set of duties/responsibilities is the better match. If you are a post-doc, then go with 2121.

Biologist is 2121 (Level A).
http://www5.hrsdc.gc.ca/noc/english/noc/2011/ProfileKeyword.aspx?val=2&val1=2121&val11=biologist&val12=0&val13=0&val14=&val15=0&val16=0

Biological technologist is 2221 (Level B).
http://www5.hrsdc.gc.ca/noc/english/noc/2011/ProfileKeyword.aspx?val=2&val1=2221&val11=biotech&val12=0&val13=0&val14=&val15=0&val16=0
 

jes_ON

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aquareo said:
I was wondering when calculating the 1 year work ex, do they consider stat holidays when you do get paid for but don't actually work e.g. Christmas day.
No, don't worry about stat holidays or paid vacation - you are still employed and paid for those days.
 

Johnny31

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jes_ON said:
That is exactly 1 year. This SHOULD be accepted. (March 1 to March 1 would be 1 year + 1 day). But if you had any unpaid leave of absence, you wouldn't qualify.
The reason I advised him about the dates is b.c I had this issue as well (counting the days), and I gave both examples (2/1/2011 to 1/31/2012 v.s. 2/1/2011 to 2/1/2012) to CIC call centre operators I spoken to and the first operator told me 2/1/2011 to 2/1/2012 would be fine and the other dates would be up to the VOs to interpret and I asked what she thinks about it and she said she wouldn't count it as 1 year. The second operator told me 2/1/2011 to 1/31/2012 = NO and the other one is okay.

Me personally, I played it safe by working almost 14 months before I ship out my application.
 

RajGill

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Jan 3, 2013
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Hi Jes,

As there are always grey areas,but taking your points in mind I will put down my counts like this
1. 1yr contract position from March 1,2012 to Feb 29,2012 but my last pay cheque was processed on March 14,2012.
2. My position wanted 70 hrs in 2 weeks which makes it 35hrs/week but with other over hrs were when I worked on Sunday/Sat Occasionally.
3. Vacation was mandatory in our University position and was payed 4% on top of every pay cheque.
4. When my HR is going to right letter on my name its would be exact 1 year and they will mention my annual earnings with hrs irrespective of pin pointing my days when I was off that dsnt make sense right?

What you have to comment in this case