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[anayya]

HELLO ALL
i want to know that we are so confused due to ielts score.plz plz if someone really understand my question answer me plz...........actually i have discuss this issue on forum before but my lawyer is making me double minded the problem is that my sister wants to apply with arranged employment and she is scoring 67 points without ielts as she got basic level in ielts...means less than 5.5 , less than moderate..it is only basic level english....but my lawyer was again and again saying that it will cause no problem as they only concern with ur total score that shoud be 67...there is no particular requirement for ielts score....i told him that i got many suggestions on this forum from many people that it is not sufficient...but he is saying that as he is a lawyer and he knows that 5 or 4.5 band will be ok if u have 67 points
plz plz plz plz plz plz pzl help me what should i do with my sister case as lawyer was saying that i m giving u 100% guarantee that ielts will cause no problem...4.5 is ok
plz pzl pzl pzl give me sensior advice...is the lawyer really true...is 4.5 band really work
plz pzl i m waiting 4 ur responses
regards to all

 

[shibuya]

Annaya ,
You should furnish more details like NOC , educational background, experience etc to get a opinion.
Next for example if ur sister NOC is college lecturer do u personally feel that she will qualify to teach students in Canada with this level of English.
I know noc 4131 is outdated but just put it to make u undestand the criteria.

So to sum up give full detailed picture and then we can give our point of view whether the lawyer is correct or not. Everybody file is treated differently by VO and it depends on many factors.

 

[anayya]

dear SHIBUYA
thanx 4 ur rply. my sister detalis are as under:
age...................... .....................10 points
eduaction MA economics................22 points
uncle in canada............................ 5 points
arranged employment....................10 points
experience ..................................21 points
total...........................................68 points
and in ielts she has 4.5 and 5 thats overall 4.5 abnd
her job duties are matching to noc 1211(supervisors,general office and admin support clerks) but my lawyer was saying that her job duties are exactly matching to noc 1221 (administrative officers)..so u acn say taht her noc code is 1221.
plz tell me that what do u think
plz help me
regards

 

[Ranjha]

dear SHIBUYA
thanx 4 ur rply. my sister detalis are as under:
age...................... .....................10 points
eduaction MA economics................22 points
uncle in canada............................ 5 points
arranged employment....................10 points
experience ..................................21 points
total...........................................68 points
and in ielts she has 4.5 and 5 thats overall 4.5 abnd
her job duties are matching to noc 1211(supervisors,general office and admin support clerks) but my lawyer was saying that her job duties are exactly matching to noc 1221 (administrative officers)..so u acn say taht her noc code is 1221.
plz tell me that what do u think
plz help me
regards

hi

dnt worry too much

first of all tell me in which catagory are u tring to put ur case,,,IELTS scores varies from professoin to prffssion,,,so u can convince a VO that u can go ahead with lower scores too,,,,,what were the scores in ENGLISH in previous education?

 

[anayya]

hi ranjha
actually my lawyer ia saying taht my sister can apply better under noc 1221 administrative officers
is it ok plz plz pzl..........guide me

 

[zulkfal]

Your lawyer may not be correct, as IELTS is given a very high weighted in your application. The ILETS test is important for all the applicants. We should understand importance of language before applying, because if we do not have sufficient knowledge of the local language that people use to speak their, then how will we communicate with them. Hence, The Canada government give importance to IELTS and another test which test English skills of the applicant before providing him with the Canada visa. At present, it is not mandatory to submit the results of IELTS for the Canadian immigration application instead applicants can submit a Statement of English Language Ability along with all the required documents (but I think after 26/06/2010 it is mandatory to send your IELTS results to CIO am not sure proficiency statement is accepted or not). Still, After investigating the documents, the visa officer will decide that whether the documents are sufficient or the applicant has to go through IELTS and this can be an issue on landing as well, immigration officer can refuse you from entry due to language basis as your visa will let you to land at a port of entry in Canada, from their you will go to newly immigrant office, they will register you as new immigrant. So, I think IELTS importance can't be neglected. If she can appear again then better she do. A person with MA can do better then this but all of us are not good test takers esp 1st time may be in second turn she breaks larger bracket.


My simple reason is
1) She is will be working in office/business environment, if her English is not good then what should be her productivity, as if you are living any province you need good (not fluent) command on English as Canada is a English/French speaking country.
2) Canadian embassies have rejected student on basis of low score in English.

Some layers just do this to raise their income but there are very good and reputable lawyers around speak with them. Plus rely on response for seniors like Qorax, PMM they are very good. If they say yes then I will take my comments back as I learned from their comments (I think they will stand with me on this).

 

[anayya]

thanx zulkfal
actually my lawyer was telling me that one applicant who has 5 band now received medicel request..5 is also basic level....i aws also thinking taht she can appy to pnp but visa officer is also asking for ielts to pnp nominees,,,,,,thats why i wish that she can get visa as federal worker...........problem is taht my lawyer again and again insisting me taht submit ur sister case without any fear...i m giving u 100% guarantee that her ielts will work well as she has 67 points............
if she retake ielts then can she send her initial application without ielts and submit ielts later. as new policy needs ielts at first satge...is it true
plz guide me........and that was really lucky person who has received medicals with only 5 band and same noc 1221

 

[zulkfal]

Yes, the person should be lucky. English proficiency plays an important role esp for PNP she need IELTS with avg 7 score. It's still upto you what you want to do. Try luck or do a little work and redo IELTS and be more sure. Now you need to send IELTS results to CIO mean with your initial application (I read it some where on this forum search a bit and you will find it). If am in your sisters shoes I will go for IELTS as it will take another extra month and give me satisfaction. I was reading on forum with thread title "IELTS" where ArshadAli replied to your case (i think so) that his friend was rejected. So, you have 50-50 chances and choice is on you.

 

[shibuya]

I fully agree with Zulkfal .
Next as ur lawyer is giving 100% guarantee then proceed BUT tell him that u will also ask for a 100 % money back guarantee and that includes all fees paid to him and also CIO if u get ur application returned.

Regards,
Shibuya