Plz help reapplying for visa
- Thread starter gur4deep
- Start date
Hi,
I applied for humber college in Enterprise Software Solutons ( Software development) .for sep session under SPP,
i got 7.5 in ielts and i have done BCA with 84%. I got refused from the chandigarh embassy. the reason was that
my proposed course is not realted to my previous study and employement...
the course is totally related to my field .I Don't know why they refused my visa...I want to reapply again for the visa but i can't do that under spp so i decieded to apply for January session. But my course is only available for september session. For that i hv to wait for 1yr .
Plz suggest me what should i do ?
should i apply for some another course in january session?
or apply for the same course under general category of sutdent visa?
would it be ok to change my course ?
plz help
I applied for humber college in Enterprise Software Solutons ( Software development) .for sep session under SPP,
i got 7.5 in ielts and i have done BCA with 84%. I got refused from the chandigarh embassy. the reason was that
my proposed course is not realted to my previous study and employement...
the course is totally related to my field .I Don't know why they refused my visa...I want to reapply again for the visa but i can't do that under spp so i decieded to apply for January session. But my course is only available for september session. For that i hv to wait for 1yr .
Plz suggest me what should i do ?
should i apply for some another course in january session?
or apply for the same course under general category of sutdent visa?
would it be ok to change my course ?
plz help
Hey Gur4deepgur4deep said:
I empathize with you and buddy it is such a shame that genuine and Brilliant students like you are being refused by the CHC.
Students (like harmanmeet) who were refused under SPP have applied again under General/Non SPP process and I recently read that a guy who was refused and applied again has got the visa also.
Given some of the the guys have applied and got the visa but you must consider the following points and understand the risk before you make another application
1) Time - NON-SPP application takes almost or rather more than a month to be processed and its almost AUGUST now so GOD only knows if your application will be processed in time or not ( and obviously the embassy is already loaded with applications (maybe thats why SPP applications are taking time)
2) Course- They have refused you b'coz they think your course does not match with your previous education so evn if you apply again your course is gonna be the same (so you could face the same refusal) and the only additional thing would be an SOP (statement of purpose) which I DO NOT FEEL MAKES MUCH DIFFERENCE TO AN APPLICATION AS EMBASSY NEVER ASKS FOR IT AND WHEN WE SUBMIT IT, IT TENDS TO BE IGNORED(I GUESS) but still a couple of guys have done it and awaiting the outcome so you might wanna use your own discretion/judgement here and see if you wanna try your luck buddy.
3)SESSION- you can go for JAN session - YOU CAN CHANGE YOUR COURSE WHICH WOULD BE RATHER BETTER COZ THATS WHAT THEY WANT AND THATS WHY YOU HAVE BEEN GIVEN A REFUSAL (make sure you choose the relevent/related/similar course in JAN)
I think i have penned down what i should So now its entirely upto you if you want to apply again or not..
ALL THE VERY BEST BUDDY
Cheers
thanx lovepreet for your suggetions
I don't know which course to choose for my january session . The previous course was totally related to my studies and work ex. Still if i think of changing the course ,humber college don't have any course related to my studies in january session.
I have to either change the college or wait for next year. I would also have to get back my fee for 1st semester from the college .
Can u suggest me some course related to my field in any good college so that i can take the admission and can enhance my chances of getting the visa.
I don't know which course to choose for my january session . The previous course was totally related to my studies and work ex. Still if i think of changing the course ,humber college don't have any course related to my studies in january session.
I have to either change the college or wait for next year. I would also have to get back my fee for 1st semester from the college .
Can u suggest me some course related to my field in any good college so that i can take the admission and can enhance my chances of getting the visa.
hello lovepreet,lovepreet said:
i want to clear u something
the only additional thing would be an SOP (statement of purpose) which I DO NOT FEEL MAKES MUCH DIFFERENCE TO AN APPLICATION AS EMBASSY NEVER ASKS FOR IT AND WHEN WE SUBMIT IT, IT TENDS TO BE IGNORED(I GUESS).
my dear friend,
in the refusal letter, embassy asked that, if u apply again then u have to submit the supporting documents to clarify the rejection point , otherwise we would not consider the file,
so in case of proposed study, exp. language abilities kind of rejection point , we can only attached sop and a letter to visa officer, because this is the only way to give the justification in this rejection point.
because we have already submitted exp. letter, dmc's, ielts test sheet,. so this is the only way to clear this point in this kind of rejection.
good luck to u bro.
well i decided to change my program . but i m scared that it may not give bad impression to the visa Councillor that i want to get in canada by hook or crook . He may think that i m not serious about my future plans and may reject my visa again.
please tell , what would be councillor's attitude towards my case if i change my program.?
please tell , what would be councillor's attitude towards my case if i change my program.?
Dear Harmanharmanmeet said:
Buddy since you have applied again with everything same except SOP so i don't want to mention anything as such which may create some doubt in your mind regarding the success of your application and dampen your spirit. but just to let you know friend SOP is never required,Show me even a single document from Embassy/VFS where it is mentioned that SOP can be submitted in additon to your documents(or to explain yourself or justify some point).Try and see if you can prove to me that it is considered an official document and
visa officer reads it.
Harman we shall wait for your visa and then I shall post more points to clarify if an SOP is required or not.
I sincerely hope the positive outcome for you.
Its not an issue of the course buddy....it is totally related to your previous qualification and job...i guess they might have rejected as you are over qualified for this course in humber...you have already studied in BCA all the modules that are taught in this course you have planned to get into...as i have also applied to the same course to humber - information technology solutions (enterprise development profile)..if you go through the course content of both the course the only difference between the two is the no. of years...your course is of 2 sem and mine is of 4 sem...we share the last 2 sem....my educational qualifications are i am a BCOM graduate...so no chance of any computer stuff in commerce....secondly i have done a diploma in soft engnrng from niit...yup i do agree that i also have studied computers but i have studied deeply the course content of my diploma and the one that i have applied to humber...and i found the course to be different from what i have already studied in my diploma in software engrng.... and i have got my visa...obviously bcom degree is not related to computers but a software eng diploma is...and apart from that i am going to study something new that i have not studied yet...and they gave me i visa...this is just a rough guess that i am making...as both of our case are same...we are going to same college same course the only difference is you are highly qualified than me...a BCA is better than BCOM..and i dont have any job experience as you have as a web developer...so may be the visa officer might have thought that you must be over qualified for this course...so when you submit your file again...do mention a reason for your over qualification also...i think that might help you to clear any doubts of visa officer if they have any...gur4deep said:
Hey Gur4deepgur4deep said:
Buddy i know you ain't in easy situation. 1st considering all the mentioned points i mentioned earlier you gotta decide whether you want to apply in this session or not.
If not, and there is no related course in HUMBER starting in JAN then you can apply for refund (you will get your fees back within a month)...search for your course in another college (there are plenty collges under SPP)... go to this website and search as it is the best way to find the proper course http://www.ontariocolleges.ca/portal/page/portal/ONTCOL/Home
if you change the course it wont give any negative impression of yours. Think about it for one minute buddy - they have refused you bcoz they are saying your course does not match so apart from changing your course is there anything/anyway you can support your refusal ? NO.. so how could it give negative impression when they themselves want you to change your course to a more suitable one..
I can't make it more clearer than this/the only other option i would suggest you is to contact CSIC certified immigration consultant who would guide you in right direction.
All the very best
Thanx to all for their responses ,
i just want to ask if i attach Letters from my lecturer and employer which would mention that the course is related to my study and work ex. and mention the relation of my previous studied subjects with the subjects of my course in the sop .Will these letters help if i reapply under general category for the sep session?
i just want to ask if i attach Letters from my lecturer and employer which would mention that the course is related to my study and work ex. and mention the relation of my previous studied subjects with the subjects of my course in the sop .Will these letters help if i reapply under general category for the sep session?
Hey Prashjchaprashjcha said:
What on earth you talking about buddy ? who told you BCA is better/or high qualification than B.COM ? Please do not confuse others unnecessarily B.COM and BCA are of same level qualifications (both are bachelor's degrees) and if someone has work experience that is counted as +ve/plus point and can be shown as the reason to study further or study a particular programme.
As far as your case is considered i would say you were fortunate enough to make through and not everyone gets through that easily some of us face challenges. Also,in another post when HAMAN said Visa depends on the mood of visa officers he was right upto some extent othewise an MBA would not get a visa to pursue post secondry diploma and people like Harman and Gurdeep wouldnt be refused who are furthering their education and are genuine students.
All the best to you
Hi Gur4deep,
Your cases seems to be a geniune case that was denied by the CHC. I think you shd reapply for same intake and under SPP and express in the SoP that why your case is genuine. Write an impressive SoP and lets hope that can make a difference. If you are still rejected than you can apply for next intake but i dont know whether the previous rejection will effect your case.
Regards,
Hardeep
Your cases seems to be a geniune case that was denied by the CHC. I think you shd reapply for same intake and under SPP and express in the SoP that why your case is genuine. Write an impressive SoP and lets hope that can make a difference. If you are still rejected than you can apply for next intake but i dont know whether the previous rejection will effect your case.
Regards,
Hardeep
@lovepreet - buddy i am just trying to help him...it was just an opinion of mine to also give a reason about over qualified for the course...and you took me wrong...i knw that BCA and BCOM both are graduate degree..but i am talking about the specialization buddy...when it comes to computers BCA students are taken into consideration compare to BCOM student and vice versa for accounts... if i want to go for accountant courses than BCOM would be an ideal qualification they would look for and BCA is meant for computer applications...this is what i am trying to differentiate...BCA is all about computers...3 hard core years in computing...try to get my point a BCA student has already studied all the modules of this course...they will be studying the same thing again in humber college...so it was just a guess that visa officer might think that a BCA student is over qualified for this course...visa officer might think as he has already studied each and everything of this PG course than why this guy want to study the same thing again....so i suggested him that u can include a reason for this as well in SOP...like canadian colleges are more known for practical hands on studies...although i am going for the same study still i would learn a lot with practical knowledge in my education...and i support you for the fact that its 50% luck game...it all depends on mood of officer n our luck...even genuine students are left out....may be you think that i m fortunate enough to get through well i was positive about my file as i already did a lot of research and selected the course...but still i accept u r view that yes i was fortunate to go thru this game of luck...and it has happened many times in past that even after rejection reapplication had got visa...so friends dont loose hope...you all guys will surely get visa...my best wishes to al of you...and ya there was no offense to any of you....so guys dont take me wrong i just wanted to help u all as you all have helped me..
dear lovepreetlovepreet said:
u didn't get my point,
i said that in this kind of rejection(studies, empl. language abilities), u can only attach a nice sop and a letter to visa officer to clear the rejection point about previous studies and employment,
there is no other way to clarify this point because we have already attached our employment letter and qualification dmc's,and ielts test too,
so they can check the dmc's of our subjects and can clear that point , but if they can't then we have to attach a nice sop and a letter to visa officer regarding interview.
one more thing i want to clear u ,
i have not attached only a sop and a letter to visa officer in this 2nd time , i have attached lot of documents,
1. my ielts test score,
2. offer letter
3. fees receipt
4. 10 lakh loan letter
5. nice sop
6. a letter to visa officer regarding clarification and interview
7. parents income tax returns and form n. 16 of last 3 years.
8. parents salary statement
9. parents service certificate
10. g.pf of parents (8 lakh)
11. ppf of parents ( 2 lakh)
12. lic policy of parents and elder brother (1 lakh)
13 . property documents ( 37 lakh)
14 . elder brother's service and salary certificate
15. brother's f.d( 1 lakh 50 thousand)
16 . mother's bank account statement
17. my qualification documents
18. my exp. letter
i have attched all these documents when i applied my file in 2nd time under general process.
on 21st june 2010
we r 4 members in our family , nd except me all three r govt. employees and well settled
so after doing all these things i can expect visa with lots of hope.