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havs

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Hi Friends,

We got our PR card on July 2010 and we are planning to move to Canada with our 2 yr 6 month old daughter for good from India in the month of Feb 2013 probably on 19th, I have few questions:

a) Is Brampton or Mississauga better place to stay for job search, my husband in IT and myself from chemistry background and daycare for my kid

b) which mobile network to take to give contact number to the employer

c) any template to prepare the resume

d) what is the maximum amount that can be taken along with us

e) my daughter is born in US and which one will be good to do ? sponsoring her while she is inside the country or sponsoring her while she is outside the country ? which one will be quick ? what if she enters the country while the application is in processing under the outside the country sponsorship ?

f) what is this job fair all about ? what is expected to be brought with us ? Does the interview/ job offer happens on the spot ? or just a resume/ cv distribution process ?

g) is the medicals covered for the visitors (US Citizen) ? if no, medical insurance for my daughter until she gets her PR ?? which is the good insurance company to go with, in terms of claims/ coverage & premium ?

h) when are we supposed to be there to make the 750 days with a buffer of 2 months in hand ? the exact date please . our PR expires on 31st july 2015. considering the leap year and number of days in that year,be more accurate
 

newtone

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havs said:
Hi Friends,

We got our PR card on July 2010 and we are planning to move to Canada with our 2 yr 6 month old daughter for good from India in the month of Feb 2013 probably on 19th, I have few questions:

a) Is Brampton or Mississauga better place to stay for job search, my husband in IT and myself from chemistry background and daycare for my kid

b) which mobile network to take to give contact number to the employer

c) any template to prepare the resume

d) what is the maximum amount that can be taken along with us

e) my daughter is born in US and which one will be good to do ? sponsoring her while she is inside the country or sponsoring her while she is outside the country ? which one will be quick ? what if she enters the country while the application is in processing under the outside the country sponsorship ?

f) what is this job fair all about ? what is expected to be brought with us ? Does the interview/ job offer happens on the spot ? or just a resume/ cv distribution process ?

g) is the medicals covered for the visitors (US Citizen) ? if no, medical insurance for my daughter until she gets her PR ?? which is the good insurance company to go with, in terms of claims/ coverage & premium ?

h) when are we supposed to be there to make the 750 days with a buffer of 2 months in hand ? the exact date please . our PR expires on 31st july 2015. considering the leap year and number of days in that year,be more accurate
a) It really dosen't matter where you live for job search you can always relocate once you get the job.

b) It really dosent matter what mobile phone number you give your employer, however mobile phone service is not as easy as in India. You have to be very shrewd, cunning, and selfish when obtaining a service from any one of the mobile providers. Its a tough negotiation game. You have to ask for everything for free cause they will try not to give you anything for free, or there will be conditions imposed.

c) google search it, thats the easiest

d) there isnt any maximum but if you are carrying over $10,000 you have to declare it.

e) sponsor her while she is in the country after all she is only 2.5 years old and cant be left alone.

f) job fair is basically all employers come over at a convention center. You will find tons of sales jobs, like door to door or cold calling, selling master card or visa card from a booth in a mall, something even high school kids can do. If you are educated I personally think its a real waste of your time. You find companies like Primerica, Investors group, WFG who are out there to aggressively recruit you. Its basically MLM (Multi-Level Marketing firms with aggressive sales policies.) Nothing wrong with that dont take it personally if sales is not your forte be polite and just tell them no. As for other companies its rare that they'll hire you on the spot, most of the people will take your resume but its your responsibility to call them up and follow up. Bring as many resume as possible, and your right its basically a resume distribution festival. A lot of the companies will be offering minimum wage atleast in Ontario its $10.25 per hour. You basically have to sell yourself cause there are other people who graduated from Canadian universities with Canadian work experience, so competition is fierce.

g) Medical is not covered for non-PR so you have to get private insurance and you cannot be reimbursed for any expenses incurred at a later date.

h) I am sure someone in this forum can better answer that question.
 

computergeek

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I'd build on newtone's comments a bit:

newtone said:
b) It really dosent matter what mobile phone number you give your employer, however mobile phone service is not as easy as in India. You have to be very shrewd, cunning, and selfish when obtaining a service from any one of the mobile providers. Its a tough negotiation game. You have to ask for everything for free cause they will try not to give you anything for free, or there will be conditions imposed.
Consider Mobilicity or WIND, both are good carriers with lower cost plans. Alternatively, stick with inexpensive prepaid phones initially (e.g., phones sold by 7-11 are a good deal actually for prepaid use.) I agree that the mobile phone carriers in Canada are terrible. Very expensive, mediocre selection, and contracts beyond the lifetime of the equipment.

newtone said:
d) there isnt any maximum but if you are carrying over $10,000 you have to declare it.
Note this only applies to cash or cash equivalents. If you are bringing a certified cheque payable to you, that does not need to be declared. If you are bringing traveler's cheques you would have to declare them.

newtone said:
e) sponsor her while she is in the country after all she is only 2.5 years old and cant be left alone.
Note that they may refuse her permission to enter the country. As a US citizen she has the unique right to request a TRP at the border (but only if they refuse to give her a visitor record, which is not very likely.) A TRP has a fee of $200 and normally must be requested from a visa office in the applicant's home country, but US citizens are allowed to apply at a POE. See OP 20 "Temporary Resident Permits" on the CIC website. It is extremely unlikely you will need one, but if they refuse (because they don't think she will leave) then a TRP would be justified under the circumstances.

I'd also suggest that you have a receipt for her PR application fee already paid, to demonstrate to them that you will be filing the application.

newtone said:
g) Medical is not covered for non-PR so you have to get private insurance and you cannot be reimbursed for any expenses incurred at a later date.
This is true for Ontario. It is not true for most other provinces (e.g., BC, AB, SK, NS and PEI all extend health insurance to dependents as long as the primary applicant is eligible). It is a good idea to purchase coverage for your child.

Actually, this may be another good reason for obtaining a TRP. Ontario will extend OHIP to someone with an appropriate TRP issued or an appropriately coded Visitor Record. Review the OHIP website for this information - this is one of these cases where people seem to get different answers depending upon the circumstances.

(h) you do not provide the information necessary to make this determination. You say when you got your PR card but the PR card does not tell us when you received PR. The residency obligation is that you must spend 730 days in the first five years after you land and then you must maintain the 730 days in the preceding five years after that. Thus, the BSO will look to see if there is sufficient time remaining in your first five years to meet the residency obligation. If not, you may be reported.

If you landed on June 1, 2010 and immediately left, you must be in Canada by June 1, 2013. To give you the 20 day buffer you asked about that would make the last date May 11, 2013. Thus, February 19, 2013 is more than sufficient time to meet the residency obligation.

With a valid PR card in hand a BSO is unlikely to look closely to see if you are in compliance with the residency application. A PR card shows you are a permanent resident, but doesn't show that you are in compliance with the residency obligation; BSOs are not obligated to enforce the residency obligation.

For example, we have heard reports of people who are not in compliance and enter Canada with an unexpired PR card. If the BSO does not report them, all they need to do is stay in Canada for 730 days and then they are back in compliance - the look back period is five years, so even if one were to go "out of compliance" it is cured just by being in Canada for two years.

Good luck!
 

havs

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Just out of curiosity: With reference to the point (h), do you mean to say that even if our PR is expired while we are inside the country (canada) without meeting the 730 days, we can live there until we complete the 730 days requirement (without a valid PR status) and then apply for the extension ?

Is it not out of status or illegal ? Please advise. Thank you .
 

Leon

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havs said:
Just out of curiosity: With reference to the point (h), do you mean to say that even if our PR is expired while we are inside the country (canada) without meeting the 730 days, we can live there until we complete the 730 days requirement (without a valid PR status) and then apply for the extension ?

Is it not out of status or illegal ? Please advise. Thank you .
It is possible if you are not caught and reported as you enter, that you are able to enter Canada with a still valid PR card without meeting the 730 day requirement. If that happens, you can let your PR card expire and continue to stay in Canada for 2 years straight until you meet the residency requirements again. Then you can apply to renew your PR card. There is no law against doing this. You do not need a valid PR card when you are inside Canada. You are a PR until someone revokes your status and if you did not get reported on entry, it is unlikely that you get your status revoked if you stay inside Canada going about your daily life and not having any business with immigration.

However, this is not an option for you because you have a child to sponsor. If you come to Canada having stayed outside more than 3 years since you got your PR, you will be unable to meet the 730 days requirement in your first 5 years. If you are not reported on entry, fine but you will have to apply to sponsor your child where you must give your own address history. You will therefore basically be reporting yourself for not meeting the requirements. This will cause you to be called in for an interview to explain why you don't meet the residency requirements and unless you have a good H/C reason, your PR may be revoked and you will be asked to leave Canada.
 

computergeek

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Leon said:
However, this is not an option for you because you have a child to sponsor. If you come to Canada having stayed outside more than 3 years since you got your PR, you will be unable to meet the 730 days requirement in your first 5 years. If you are not reported on entry, fine but you will have to apply to sponsor your child where you must give your own address history. You will therefore basically be reporting yourself for not meeting the requirements. This will cause you to be called in for an interview to explain why you don't meet the residency requirements and unless you have a good H/C reason, your PR may be revoked and you will be asked to leave Canada.
The OP is not out of compliance yet. As long as the OP enters the country with sufficient time remaining in the first five years, they will be fine and can sponsor the child. But yes, if the OP attempts to sponsor the child and is not in compliance, a VO in Mississauga will likely notice and refer the case to an inland office for further investigation.
 

Leon

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computergeek said:
The OP is not out of compliance yet. As long as the OP enters the country with sufficient time remaining in the first five years, they will be fine and can sponsor the child. But yes, if the OP attempts to sponsor the child and is not in compliance, a VO in Mississauga will likely notice and refer the case to an inland office for further investigation.
Right, I am just saying, he shouldn't get tempted to stay outside Canada for more than 3 years and thinking it'll work out for him because he needs to meet the residency requirements in order to sponsor.
 

computergeek

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AOR Received.
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File Transfer...
21-6-2012
Med's Done....
11-02-2012
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
26-09-2012
VISA ISSUED...
10-10-2012
LANDED..........
13-10-2012
Leon said:
Right, I am just saying, he shouldn't get tempted to stay outside Canada for more than 3 years and thinking it'll work out for him because he needs to meet the residency requirements in order to sponsor.
Oh absolutely. The level of scrutiny at the primary inspection line is fairly minimal compared to the level of scrutiny at CPC-M, of that I have no doubt.