phD ONLY …WHY does N't TA/RA count for experience under skilled program?

[xiaolei]

HI, ALL
According to http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?q=855&t=6
TA/RA DOES COUNT FOR work experience under federal skilled program, however, I get 0 point under canadian work experience, any one konws why?
Thanks,
Lili

 

[j22xiong]

Re: phD ONLY ...WHY does N't TA/RA count for experience under skilled program?

Under FSW it says "You must have gained the equivalent amount of experience as someone who worked full-time" ... As a full-time PhD student, I doubt RA/TA can be recognized as full-time working experience

 

[nick.rwth]

Re: phD ONLY ...WHY does N't TA/RA count for experience under skilled program?

Under FSW it says "You must have gained the equivalent amount of experience as someone who worked full-time" ... As a full-time PhD student, I doubt RA/TA can be recognized as full-time working experience

I do not agree.
In my PhD in Germany I was working full time (35h) - I was doing reaseach (80% of time) and teaching ( 20% of time).

In my reference letter it stated as full time employee.

However it depends on university. In some places when you do PhD you have some classes. I had none.
So I might be different.

 

[visaowl]

Re: phD ONLY ...WHY does N't TA/RA count for experience under skilled program?

I do not agree.
In my PhD in Germany I was working full time (35h) - I was doing reaseach (80% of time) and teaching ( 20% of time).

In my reference letter it stated as full time employee.

However it depends on university. In some places when you do PhD you have some classes. I had none.
So I might be different.

Their reasoning is connected to your status in the country; work visa or student visa. They do count postdoc experience as work experience.

 

[purplesnow]

Re: phD ONLY ...WHY does N't TA/RA count for experience under skilled program?

because it says that work experience gained while a student doesn't count towards points. Doesn't matter how much time you spent working, your primary occupation at that time was as a student, not an employee.

 

[nick.rwth]

Re: phD ONLY ...WHY does N't TA/RA count for experience under skilled program?

Their reasoning is connected to your status in the country; work visa or student visa. They do count postdoc experience as work experience.

In Germany I had work visa during my PhD
In Canada I had work visa during my postdoc

 

[visaowl]

Re: phD ONLY ...WHY does N't TA/RA count for experience under skilled program?

because it says that work experience gained while a student doesn't count towards points. Doesn't matter how much time you spent working, your primary occupation at that time was as a student, not an employee.

That is a bit debatable. RA/TAs actually work for the professor and the University; that is why they are counted as an employee and a worker and also pay taxes on the income too.

 

[visaowl]

Re: phD ONLY ...WHY does N't TA/RA count for experience under skilled program?

In Germany I had work visa during my PhD
In Canada I had work visa during my postdoc

That is exactly why CIC just issued a blanket statement debarring this to be counted as work experience. RA/TA situation is murky; and I can see why they want to avoid tricky situations. Remember, they deal will countries the world over where sometimes it would soon turn into very fraud situations.

 

[nick.rwth]

Re: phD ONLY ...WHY does N't TA/RA count for experience under skilled program?

That is a bit debatable. RA/TAs actually work for the professor and the University; that is why they are counted as an employee and a worker and also pay taxes on the income too.

That is correct!

 

[j22xiong]

Re: phD ONLY ...WHY does N't TA/RA count for experience under skilled program?

I do not agree.
In my PhD in Germany I was working full time (35h) - I was doing reaseach (80% of time) and teaching ( 20% of time).

In my reference letter it stated as full time employee.

However it depends on university. In some places when you do PhD you have some classes. I had none.
So I might be different.

Yeah that works for your case. What I've said is based on Canadian universities.

 

[xiaolei]

Re: phD ONLY ...WHY does N't TA/RA count for experience under skilled program?

Thank you all for the kind reply…
but The statement on the gic website does say TA.RA count for the working experience under skilled worker program……
The weird thing is I get 0, so there is a conflict…

 

[jes_ON]

Re: phD ONLY ...WHY does N't TA/RA count for experience under skilled program?

Thank you all for the kind reply...
but The statement on the gic website does say TA.RA count for the working experience under skilled worker program......
The weird thing is I get 0, so there is a conflict...

Two different sets of criteria - EE and FSW...