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zoeyng95

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Jun 11, 2019
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hello, i just received the PFL letter from CIC

here is the story :

it was back then my husband got into a scam when he did the paperwork with "a lawyer"

however , when i attented the airport in Vietnam . the Immagration in VN was found out.
we both didnt even know it was fake visa and kinda socked for that sittuation.

And then Immagration Vietnam solved it and said we're cleared and they made a decision that we were the victims of fraud

Then we're starting opening our paperwork again on 10/2019 and the CIC checked my background and somehow they said i tried to used the visa bc i guess back then when i checked in at the airport , it was showed the case in 2017

They might ban me for 5 years if we dont response them.

My husband had been travel banned for since 2017 for 7 years cant travel outside canada too since his passport had been tattered.
which mean if we close our case either me or him cant see each other for 5 years and i honestly dont know what to do right now ???
Can you guys help me ? or how should i response them.
i havent seen my husband for 2 years .
:(

this is my letter


This refers to your application for permanent residence in Canada. Your application and all of the documents you submitted in support of it have been reviewed and it appears that you may not meet the requirements for immigration to Canada. Section 11(1) of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act (IRPA) provides that a foreign national must, before entering Canada, apply to an officer for a visa or any other document required by the Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations (IRPR). The visa or document shall be issued if, following an examination, the officer is satisfied that the foreign national is not inadmissible and meets the requirements of IRPA. I have concerns that you have not fulfilled the requirement put upon you by section 16(1) of IRPA which states that a person who makes an application must answer truthfully all questions put to them for the purpose of the examination and must produce a visa and all relevant evidence and documents that the officer reasonably requires. Specifically, I have concerns that you did not truthfully answer Question 4B on the Schedule A Background / Declaration. You did not declare that you were refused admission to Canada or any other country; nor did you declare that you had previously been detained. You did not mention your attempt to travel to Canada together with your sponsor in May 2017. I have concerns that you misrepresented the information provided by not declaring that you had previously been refused entry into Canada and not declaring that you had previously been detained by Vietnam Immigration and may therefore be inadmissible to Canada under section 40(1)(a) of IRPA. Please note that if it is found that you have engaged in misrepresentation in submitting your application, you may be found to be inadmissible under section 40(1)(a) of IRPA. A finding of such inadmissibility would render you inadmissible to Canada for a period of five (5) years according to section 40(2)(a) and unable to submit any further permanent resident applications for Canada for the same period of time as per section 40(3). I also have concerns that you are inadmissible to Canada under section 36(1)(c) for criminality as you previously tried to enter Canada with a counterfeit immigrant visa on May 30, 2017. A foreign national is inadmissible on grounds of criminality for: 36(1)(c) committing an act outside Canada that is an offence in the place where it was committed and that, if committed in Canada, would constitute an offence under an Act of Parliament punishable by a maximum term of imprisonment of at least 10 years. I am concerned that in previously using a counterfeit immigrant visa you committed an offence in Vietnam that is an offence in Vietnam under the Vietnamese Penal Code and, if committed in Canada, would constitute an offence under IRPA which is an Act of Parliament, and this offence would be punishable by a term of imprisonment of up to 14 years. I therefore have concerns that you are inadmissible under section 36(1)(c) of IRPA as you committed a crime outside Canada that is an offence in the place it was committed and that, if committed in Canada, would constitute an offence under an Act of Parliament punishable by a maximum term of imprisonment of at least 10 years. I would like to provide you with the opportunity to respond to this information. You will have thirty (30) days from the date of this letter to submit additional information in this regard. For online applications all responses should be sent via the IRCC online portal. For all other applications, all responses should be sent via email to spore.immigration@international.gc.ca. Please clearly indicate your application number on all correspondence with our office. If you do not respond to this request within thirty (30) days, your application will be assessed based on the information currently on file and may result in the refusal of your application.
 
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scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
97,282
23,113
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
hello,
i just received the PFL letter from CIC

it said i was trying to use a fake visa to entry canada in 2017

it was back then my husband got into a scam and we both were the victims of fraud visa .
however , we never used it bc when i attented the airport in Vietnam . the Immagration in VN was found out.
And then Immagration Vietnam solved and said we're cleared and they said we were the victims

Then we're starting opening our paperwork again 10/2019 and the CIC checked my background and somehow they said i tried to used the visa bc i guess back then when i checked in at the airport , it was showed the case in 2017
They might ban me for 5 years if we dont response them.

My husband had been banned for since 2017 for 7 years cant travel outside canada too since his passport had been ripped.
which mean if we close our case either me or him cant see each other for 5 years and i honestly dont know what to do right now ???
Can you guys help me ?
Did you declare this history and information in your application when you applied for PR?

I don't think you can say that you didn't use the visa. You did try to use it. You just didn't get very far and you were stopped at the airport in Vietnam.

In order for us to help you, you should post the entire letter you received from IRCC here. You should leave out any personal facts like your name.
 

zoeyng95

Newbie
Jun 11, 2019
9
0
Did you declare this history and information in your application when you applied for PR?

I don't think you can say that you didn't use the visa. You did try to use it. You just didn't get very far and you were stopped at the airport in Vietnam.

In order for us to help you, you should post the entire letter you received from IRCC here. You should leave out any personal facts like your name.
cause we thought it was real tho. if we knew it was fake we didnt even want to risk our life for it
 

21Goose

VIP Member
Nov 10, 2016
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cause we thought it was real tho. if we knew it was fake we didnt even want to risk our life for it
Unfortunately that doesn't matter. What matters is that you attempted to fly to Canada on a fake visa. If you post the full letter we may be able to help more.
 
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scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
97,282
23,113
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
cause we thought it was real tho. if we knew it was fake we didnt even want to risk our life for it
As said above, unfortunately it doesn't matter. All that matters is that you tried to use it.

Did you declare this history in your PR application?
 

zoeyng95

Newbie
Jun 11, 2019
9
0
As said above, unfortunately it doesn't matter. All that matters is that you tried to use it.

Did you declare this history in your PR application?
i did with the new real lawyer we told her our case but idk if she did it or not.
im kinda stuck in the middle of no where
 

scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
97,282
23,113
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
i did with the new real lawyer we told her our case but idk if she did it or not.
im kinda stuck in the middle of no where
You need to post the full PFL letter if you want help here.
 

scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
97,282
23,113
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
i did with the new real lawyer we told her our case but idk if she did it or not.
im kinda stuck in the middle of no where
Even if a lawyer filled out your paperwork, you are responsible for all of the information in the forms and IRCC will hold you responsible (not your lawyer) if there are any errors. When you signed the paperwork, you should have reviewed it for accuracy. By signing the paperwork, you declared to IRCC that all information in the application was accurate and complete.
 

zoeyng95

Newbie
Jun 11, 2019
9
0
"husband's passport had been ripped" what does it mean? Why is he banned for 7 years?
Sorry my English isn’t that good.
Hmm his passport is tattered
Then the pp government banned him not to go outside Canada for 7 years
It’s been 2 years already
 

scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
97,282
23,113
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
Sorry my English isn’t that good.
Hmm his passport is tattered
Then the pp government banned him not to go outside Canada for 7 years
It’s been 2 years already
What is "pp government"?
 

scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
97,282
23,113
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
Based on the PFL letter, you need to hire a very good immigration lawyer to assist you. This situation is far too complex for a free internet forum. It's a very big problem that you failed to declare this visa history in your PR application. If you don't trust your current lawyer - get a new one.
 
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zoeyng95

Newbie
Jun 11, 2019
9
0
Thank you.
Based on the PFL letter, you need to hire a very good immigration lawyer to assist you. This situation is far too complex for a free internet forum. It's a very big problem that you failed to declare this visa history in your PR application. If you don't trust your current lawyer - get a new one.