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Hello CVers,

Can see you guys are doing a superb work enlightening academic enthusiasts.

I am currently pursuing a master degree in petroleum engineering for falls 2015.

I have applied to a few universities
Memorial (admitted) MASc Oil And Gas Engineering
Dalhousie (admitted) M.Eng Chemical Engineering
Regina (Pending) M.Eng Petroleum System Engineering
Calgary (Pending)M. Eng Petroleum Engineering
Alberta (Rejected)

I'll like to solicit your advice on the offer I should take out of the available 4.
Also how do I go about fInancial funding as none has given me a scholarship.
With plans to obtain a Permanent Visa and work experience which takes priority.
Lastly, do well to give me an idea of cost of living, tuition and miscellaneous fees of each school.



Peter P.
 
Hi, even i am applying for Dalhousie, Regina for the winter intakes. I am advising you based on facts and internet data analysis i have done. Halifax and Regina are the most balanced cities in terms of weather, while New foundland has the worst weather conditions in canada, snow storms are a daily scene in winters. That said NL is at the brink of an Oil & Gas boom.

In terms of a career growth leading to jobs i would rank 1.Calgary 2.Memorial 3. Regina 4.Dalhousie.

In terms of living cost is very different, New foundland wins this with low living costs, all other cities have very similar living costs.

Memorial is a good choice if Calgary rejects you. They if you are an engineer got to Alberta you'll make merry hence Calgary must be your first choice. Regina and Dalhousie is lost in the middle they're neither attractive for jobs nor for their living costs. NL also has a attractive PNP system where its easier to get PR compared to Alberta.

Regarding costs current students can give you the reality of these universities. But, since you have got a research masters in memorial your tuition fees will drastically reduce and even if you don't get a scholarship u wont have to bear huge debts.

I have also done some research from online grocery stores and kijiji house rentals for Halifax, Regina, St John NL, Calgary. NL stood out cheapest. :P

;D i have done quite some research. Hope this helps 8)
 
@cocosite whats ur profile?
i hv also applied in calgary,regina,dalhousie
i am accepted in dalhousie
 
kartz said:
Hi, even i am applying for Dalhousie, Regina for the winter intakes. I am advising you based on facts and internet data analysis i have done. Halifax and Regina are the most balanced cities in terms of weather, while New foundland has the worst weather conditions in canada, snow storms are a daily scene in winters. That said NL is at the brink of an Oil & Gas boom.

In terms of a career growth leading to jobs i would rank 1.Calgary 2.Memorial 3. Regina 4.Dalhousie.

In terms of living cost is very different, New foundland wins this with low living costs, all other cities have very similar living costs.

Memorial is a good choice if Calgary rejects you. They if you are an engineer got to Alberta you'll make merry hence Calgary must be your first choice. Regina and Dalhousie is lost in the middle they're neither attractive for jobs nor for their living costs. NL also has a attractive PNP system where its easier to get PR compared to Alberta.

Regarding costs current students can give you the reality of these universities. But, since you have got a research masters in memorial your tuition fees will drastically reduce and even if you don't get a scholarship u wont have to bear huge debts.

I have also done some research from online grocery stores and kijiji house rentals for Halifax, Regina, St John NL, Calgary. NL stood out cheapest. :P

;D i have done quite some research. Hope this helps 8)
@Kartz dat was really incisive for a post that just went up.

I went through the eligibility requirements for PNP in Memorial - International student Category.

Unfortunately, for international students it doesn't look so good.
Why aren't you considering Memorial?

Thanks.
 
yesplease said:
@ cocosite whats ur profile?
i hv also applied in calgary,regina,dalhousie
i am accepted in dalhousie

What details exactly are you seeking
 
what is your percentage and work experience research publications?
 
yesplease said:
what is your percentage and work experience research publications?

80% cgpa, 88% gpa for last 2 years of undergraduate degree
2.5 years experience
1 research publication
 
cocosmite said:
@ Kartz dat was really incisive for a post that just went up.

I went through the eligibility requirements for PNP in Memorial - International student Category.

Unfortunately, for international students it doesn't look so good.
Why aren't you considering Memorial?

Thanks.

I missed the Fall deadline for memorial by a week. Got my english test results late. I am applying for winter intakes.

Talking about PNP Regina in Saskatchewan is very immigrant friendly. I was comparing memorial with Calgary for PR. Regina the problem i've found is jobs are very little its not an oil reserve either considering your course in petroleum alberta, NL give you best employability chances.

I strongly believe no matter where you study you will target Alberta or NL for jobs because these are the epicentre of oil industries. So why not do a masters here so that you can build your network easily!
 
kartz said:
I missed the Fall deadline for memorial by a week. Got my english test results late. I am applying for winter intakes.

Talking about PNP Regina in Saskatchewan is very immigrant friendly. I was comparing memorial with Calgary for PR. Regina the problem i've found is jobs are very little its not an oil reserve either considering your course in petroleum alberta, NL give you best employability chances.

I strongly believe no matter where you study you will target Alberta or NL for jobs because these are the epicentre of oil industries. So why not do a masters here so that you can build your network easily!

But I have not yet stumbled upon people who have studied in memorial Oil and gas engineering and working in NL itself. Most of them are shifting to alberta only it seems. Are you in touch with anyone who is working in NL itself?


Regards

Rathesh
 
Rathesh said:
But I have not yet stumbled upon people who have studied in memorial Oil and gas engineering and working in NL itself. Most of them are shifting to alberta only it seems. Are you in touch with anyone who is working in NL itself?


Regards

Rathesh

I have had conversations with people doing an MBA in Memorial and a few guys doing mechanical engineering not Petroleum Engineering specifically. Also I have had conversations on Linkedin with a guy who is now in Dubai after a masters in petroleum engg from Memorial. I can say that they have never told anything wrong about the university. But the job market is still budding. The major problem with NL is the oil industry is on a major fall, Alberta is cutting jobs and NL is not able to invest in oil fields because of the current scenario. It will change by the time you graduate the industry would have stabilised.

Here is an article on CBC las year about the Oil industry boom waiting to happen in NL.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/record-bid-of-559m-for-newfoundland-oil-exploration-rights-1.2871463

Yes you are right people go to alberta because it has become the major hub, NL has started to go in that direction of becoming a hub.
 
kartz said:
I have had conversations with people doing an MBA in Memorial and a few guys doing mechanical engineering not Petroleum Engineering specifically. Also I have had conversations on Linkedin with a guy who is now in Dubai after a masters in petroleum engg from Memorial. I can say that they have never told anything wrong about the university. But the job market is still budding. The major problem with NL is the oil industry is on a major fall, Alberta is cutting jobs and NL is not able to invest in oil fields because of the current scenario. It will change by the time you graduate the industry would have stabilised.

Here is an article on CBC las year about the Oil industry boom waiting to happen in NL.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/record-bid-of-559m-for-newfoundland-oil-exploration-rights-1.2871463

Yes you are right people go to alberta because it has become the major hub, NL has started to go in that direction of becoming a hub.

Yeah ! Let us see what happens. The info u provided was useful. Hope for the best.


Regards

Rathesh
 
kartz said:
I missed the Fall deadline for memorial by a week. Got my english test results late. I am applying for winter intakes.

Talking about PNP Regina in Saskatchewan is very immigrant friendly. I was comparing memorial with Calgary for PR. Regina the problem i've found is jobs are very little its not an oil reserve either considering your course in petroleum alberta, NL give you best employability chances.

I strongly believe no matter where you study you will target Alberta or NL for jobs because these are the epicentre of oil industries. So why not do a masters here so that you can build your network easily!

I really don't want to be intruding in here but I am afraid your information on a lot of things about Oil and gas industry and Provinces in general is quite off. Here are a few things you might wanna consider:

-Jobs in your field are in no way a problem in Regina. The truth could not be farther. NL economy is getting good on the paper but I wouldn't risk my career based on what internet has to say. The picture on the ground is very different from what I know. If I were to choose. I would stick in Alberta and Saskatchewan by all means. Stay away from the east coast. Also, you talked about weather in Regina and Halifax being balanced. Buddy, I have lived in Regina for last 3 years and it is NOT balanced. Halifax is way too better when it comes to weather.

-NL PNP is better at the first look when compared to Alberta's but don't forget the application cap. I am not saying which one is better and which one is worse. All I am saying is check the maximum number of applications federal government allows all the provinces that you are considering.

-You are pretty much bang on when it comes to living costs. NL is the cheapest but it also has the least amount of jobs. It has higher unemployment rates when compared to Alberta or Saskatchewan.

Now all being said, you couldn't be more right about Alberta cutting jobs. The economy depends on if there is a buyer and really Alberta hasn't been b=very successful in finding markets. Now if Alberta, which has a huge oil and gas industry is having trouble finding markets, my best guess would be that it is going to be a while before it is NL's turn for a booming oil and gas industry. I mean it could be booming for sure, but a comparison with Alberta would be kind of unfair. But then again, you can always move to where the work is once you graduate.

I wish you guys the best!
 
@kartz and @karankullar thanks for your objective analysis I can satisfactorily say you guys are champions of evincing your perspective.
Your perspectives have been most appreciated by myself and the other +100 onlookers who have more frequently viewed this post most recently.

You guys understand my enquiry and have made your points in lucid fashions.

Cheers mate. We are all learning wrt to your pros and cons.
To some extent we know the angel and demon provinces.

Thanks KA....
 
Your advice is solid, however, I have two reservations with NL.
1. Being closest to the Northpole, it is subject to a lot of snow storms
2. Don't you think a study in Oil and Gas Engineering is a bit limited in scope.
Comparing Limitations of Oil and Gas Engineering MASc in Memorial to Chemical Engineering (Courses based on Petroleum studies) Msc in Dalhousie, do you think this Oil and Gas Engineering doesn't keep you in a box,
I would welcome you perspectives. But already I smile at the Pros of NL.

kartz said:
I missed the Fall deadline for memorial by a week. Got my english test results late. I am applying for winter intakes.

Talking about PNP Regina in Saskatchewan is very immigrant friendly. I was comparing memorial with Calgary for PR. Regina the problem i've found is jobs are very little its not an oil reserve either considering your course in petroleum alberta, NL give you best employability chances.

I strongly believe no matter where you study you will target Alberta or NL for jobs because these are the epicentre of oil industries. So why not do a masters here so that you can build your network easily!
karankullar said:
I really don't want to be intruding in here but I am afraid your information on a lot of things about Oil and gas industry and Provinces in general is quite off. Here are a few things you might wanna consider:

-Jobs in your field are in no way a problem in Regina. The truth could not be farther. NL economy is getting good on the paper but I wouldn't risk my career based on what internet has to say. The picture on the ground is very different from what I know. If I were to choose. I would stick in Alberta and Saskatchewan by all means. Stay away from the east coast. Also, you talked about weather in Regina and Halifax being balanced. Buddy, I have lived in Regina for last 3 years and it is NOT balanced. Halifax is way too better when it comes to weather.

-NL PNP is better at the first look when compared to Alberta's but don't forget the application cap. I am not saying which one is better and which one is worse. All I am saying is check the maximum number of applications federal government allows all the provinces that you are considering.

-You are pretty much bang on when it comes to living costs. NL is the cheapest but it also has the least amount of jobs. It has higher unemployment rates when compared to Alberta or Saskatchewan.

Now all being said, you couldn't be more right about Alberta cutting jobs. The economy depends on if there is a buyer and really Alberta hasn't been b=very successful in finding markets. Now if Alberta, which has a huge oil and gas industry is having trouble finding markets, my best guess would be that it is going to be a while before it is NL's turn for a booming oil and gas industry. I mean it could be booming for sure, but a comparison with Alberta would be kind of unfair. But then again, you can always move to where the work is once you graduate.

I wish you guys the best!
Please what is your take since you reside here.
 
Hi,

Oil and Gas industry in Canada is at its worst in current situation. 1000s of well experienced people across Canada, specifically in Alberta from Oil and Gas industry have been laid off and companies are still laying off. No one knows when will things be stabled but for now situation is worst for Oil and Gas. I am not discouraging you guys but this is the fact. Do your own research before coming and spending your precious times and good amounts of money on these expensive programs and then afterwards doing odd jobs which are also not that easy to get.

Good luck!