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Parents are PR. Child is born outside Canada.

Adveen

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May 19, 2017
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Hello all
My name is Adveen. I am 14 months old. My parents have PR cards since OCT2015. But since I was going g to be born my parents came back to India to give me birth as my mom would need support after delivery. Now in May 2017 my dad has left to Canada .He is working there. Before he left, he applied for TRV for me which was rejected. Then he applied for TRP for me which was rejected again. The reasons that the visa officer was not satisfied with is mentioned below,
1. Travel history
2.Family ties in Canada
3.length of proposed stay in Canada
4.purpose of visit.

My dad had given a copy of both my parents PR Job offer letter for dad and other documents as relevant. Still I was not granted visa . I would like to know what can I ask.my parents to do to take me there. I really miss my dad and want to reunite with him so that he can experience.my milestones. How and what to apply for. Mommy says dad has to sponsor me from.canada. but that will take good 6+ months to be granted. I want to go fast. Please help
 

Bs65

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Seems likely the only way then is for the father to enter a PR application if both TRV and TRP have failed. There are many posts on this in the forum same situation same route unfortunately for example http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/threads/a-pr-wanting-to-return-with-a-baby-born-outside-canada.158285/

By all means I guess you can try applying for TRV or TRP again but in meantime rather than waste too much time for another rejection maybe get moving on the PR application. Unfortunately just because parents are PR does not give any dependants born outside of Canada any PR rights automatically.
 

Adveen

Newbie
May 19, 2017
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Seems likely the only way then is for the father to enter a PR application if both TRV and TRP have failed. There are many posts on this in the forum same situation same route unfortunately for example http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/threads/a-pr-wanting-to-return-with-a-baby-born-outside-canada.158285/

PS.For a 14 month old if you need to take IELTs looks like you wll have no problems there !
Thank you for replying champion member. Could you also please tell me if my mom can apply for a visitor visa for me and my dad can sponsor PR for me when I reach Canada. So in that way I will win. .. errrr . . Daddy said this option is not possible. But mom was forcing me to ask.
 

Rob_TO

VIP Member
Nov 7, 2012
11,427
1,551
Toronto
Category........
FAM
Visa Office......
Seoul, Korea
App. Filed.......
13-07-2012
AOR Received.
18-08-2012
File Transfer...
21-08-2012
Med's Done....
Sent with App
Passport Req..
N/R - Exempt
VISA ISSUED...
30-10-2012
LANDED..........
16-11-2012
Hello all
My name is Adveen. I am 14 months old. My parents have PR cards since OCT2015. But since I was going g to be born my parents came back to India to give me birth as my mom would need support after delivery. Now in May 2017 my dad has left to Canada .He is working there. Before he left, he applied for TRV for me which was rejected. Then he applied for TRP for me which was rejected again. The reasons that the visa officer was not satisfied with is mentioned below,
1. Travel history
2.Family ties in Canada
3.length of proposed stay in Canada
4.purpose of visit.

My dad had given a copy of both my parents PR Job offer letter for dad and other documents as relevant. Still I was not granted visa . I would like to know what can I ask.my parents to do to take me there. I really miss my dad and want to reunite with him so that he can experience.my milestones. How and what to apply for. Mommy says dad has to sponsor me from.canada. but that will take good 6+ months to be granted. I want to go fast. Please help
Dad living in Canada needs to submit a PR app to sponsor you, He must stay residing in Canada for the duration of the application process (6-12 months), although can leave for temporary vacations.

Since TRV and TRP have already been denied, there is slim to none chance you'll be able to go to Canada until PR is approved. As mentioned though, you can always apply again all you would be risking is the application fees.

Your parents made a personal choice to return to India to have their child, while they could have stayed in Canada to have a Canadian citizen child and not had to go through this. Due to that choice, family separation to sponsor is one of the consequences. Probably nothing to do now except wait for PR.
 

Adveen

Newbie
May 19, 2017
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Thank you for replying
Dad living in Canada needs to submit a PR app to sponsor you, He must stay residing in Canada for the duration of the application process (6-12 months), although can leave for temporary vacations.

Since TRV and TRP have already been denied, there is slim to none chance you'll be able to go to Canada until PR is approved. As mentioned though, you can always apply again all you would be risking is the application fees.

Your parents made a personal choice to return to India to have their child, while they could have stayed in Canada to have a Canadian citizen child and not had to go through this. Due to that choice, family separation to sponsor is one of the consequences. Probably nothing to do now except wait for PR.
Thank you for replying Rob,
Little did they know that my visa would be a problem.
Could you also please tell me if my mom can apply for a visitor visa for me and my dad can sponsor PR for me when I reach Canada. So in that way I will win. .. errrr . . Daddy said this option is not possible. But mom was forcing me to ask.

Also, can my dad contest this in Canada with help of a lawyer ? Is it even advisable ?
 

Rob_TO

VIP Member
Nov 7, 2012
11,427
1,551
Toronto
Category........
FAM
Visa Office......
Seoul, Korea
App. Filed.......
13-07-2012
AOR Received.
18-08-2012
File Transfer...
21-08-2012
Med's Done....
Sent with App
Passport Req..
N/R - Exempt
VISA ISSUED...
30-10-2012
LANDED..........
16-11-2012
Click to expand...
Thank you for replying


Thank you for replying Rob,
Little did they know that my visa would be a problem.
Could you also please tell me if my mom can apply for a visitor visa for me and my dad can sponsor PR for me when I reach Canada. So in that way I will win. .. errrr . . Daddy said this option is not possible. But mom was forcing me to ask.

Also, can my dad contest this in Canada with help of a lawyer ? Is it even advisable ?
If a TRV or TRP can be approved, then yes you can wait in Canada as a visitor while the PR app is being processed.

However there is no need to wait. The only option for children sponsorship is through the OUTLAND method meaning it's processed in New Delhi visa office no matter if the child is residing in or out of Canada. So dad may as well submit the PR app immediately to get the process started, and you can try to figure out getting TRV/TRP anytime later.

As mentioned since the TRV & TRP have already been denied once, there is little chance of being successful the next time. There is no way to contest TRV/TRP results.
 

Adveen

Newbie
May 19, 2017
7
0
If a TRV or TRP can be approved, then yes you can wait in Canada as a visitor while the PR app is being processed.

However there is no need to wait. The only option for children sponsorship is through the OUTLAND method meaning it's processed in New Delhi visa office no matter if the child is residing in or out of Canada. So dad may as well submit the PR app immediately to get the process started, and you can try to figure out getting TRV/TRP anytime later.

As mentioned since the TRV & TRP have already been denied once, there is little chance of being successful the next time. There is no way to contest TRV/TRP results.
So. As my dad said the visitor visa is not an option if I understand it right ?
 

Rob_TO

VIP Member
Nov 7, 2012
11,427
1,551
Toronto
Category........
FAM
Visa Office......
Seoul, Korea
App. Filed.......
13-07-2012
AOR Received.
18-08-2012
File Transfer...
21-08-2012
Med's Done....
Sent with App
Passport Req..
N/R - Exempt
VISA ISSUED...
30-10-2012
LANDED..........
16-11-2012
So. As my dad said the visitor visa is not an option if I understand it right ?
TRV and TRP have already been denied once. You can certainly try to apply again with new or updated information to convince them otherwise, but it's entirely up to visa officer if they issue it or just reject again.
 

Adveen

Newbie
May 19, 2017
7
0
TRV and TRP have already been denied once. You can certainly try to apply again with new or updated information to convince them otherwise, but it's entirely up to visa officer if they issue it or just reject again.
Just to clear my understanding, you are talking about TRV and TRP. And what I am talking about is the visitor visa which my granny got and it has about 8 years validity. So my question is if I can apply for a visitor visa like my granny and meanwhile my dad can submit PR app. And if it helps, in my visitor visa my dad can mention about his intention of sponsoring me for PR.
 

Rob_TO

VIP Member
Nov 7, 2012
11,427
1,551
Toronto
Category........
FAM
Visa Office......
Seoul, Korea
App. Filed.......
13-07-2012
AOR Received.
18-08-2012
File Transfer...
21-08-2012
Med's Done....
Sent with App
Passport Req..
N/R - Exempt
VISA ISSUED...
30-10-2012
LANDED..........
16-11-2012
Just to clear my understanding, you are talking about TRV and TRP. And what I am talking about is the visitor visa which my granny got and it has about 8 years validity. So my question is if I can apply for a visitor visa like my granny and meanwhile my dad can submit PR app. And if it helps, in my visitor visa my dad can mention about his intention of sponsoring me for PR.
TRV is a visitor visa. You have already been denied once for a visitor visa.
 

Adveen

Newbie
May 19, 2017
7
0
TRV is a visitor visa. You have already been denied once for a visitor visa.
Oh okay. I shall share this thread with my dad and see what he can do best to get me there asap. Thank you Bob. Thank you for being so patient with me. .
 

Adveen

Newbie
May 19, 2017
7
0
Hello again,

I spoke to my dad.. he said we would apply for a TRV again and I will return back to India within 6 months with my granny and meanwhile he would prepare and app for my PR. would that work ?

Oh okay. I shall share this thread with my dad and see what he can do best to get me there asap. Thank you Bob. Thank you for being so patient with me. .
TRV is a visitor visa. You have already been denied once for a visitor visa.
 

Rob_TO

VIP Member
Nov 7, 2012
11,427
1,551
Toronto
Category........
FAM
Visa Office......
Seoul, Korea
App. Filed.......
13-07-2012
AOR Received.
18-08-2012
File Transfer...
21-08-2012
Med's Done....
Sent with App
Passport Req..
N/R - Exempt
VISA ISSUED...
30-10-2012
LANDED..........
16-11-2012
Hello again,

I spoke to my dad.. he said we would apply for a TRV again and I will return back to India within 6 months with my granny and meanwhile he would prepare and app for my PR. would that work ?
As already mentioned here, since first TRV was already rejected odds are a second TRV app will be rejected also. However you are free to submit a new app again if you like, trying to address the reasons for first refusal.

Only the visa office processing TRV app can tell you if it will work or not.