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Owner operated corporation count as CEC work experience?

twranks

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Hi guys,
Got an ITA a while back under CEC but I'm starting to have second thoughts as to whhether my application will actually be accepted.
Among the jobs I added in my work experience section was my incoroprated business, of which I am the Managing director. It was incorporated in November 2016, but I was doing freelance work on fiverr prior to that in October 2015. I put in this experience as 2015/10- date, managing director of DCS (company name), NOC level A.

That said, I based my application on a noc level B job which I started in Feb this year.

MY question: IRCC is requesting reference letters for all the jobs in my work experience section. Will my owner operated/freelance work experience count as sufficient work experience? Also, was I given this ITA based on both work experiences or just the one I based my application on?

Appreciate the feedback :)
 

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twranks said:
Among the jobs I added in my work experience section was my incoroprated business, of which I am the Managing director. It was incorporated in November 2016, but I was doing freelance work on fiverr prior to that in October 2015. I put in this experience as 2015/10- date, managing director of DCS (company name), NOC level A.

So - you do realize that self-employment is not eligible, right?

The freelance work is clearly self-employed and should have been listed as a separate "job" (or at least for the profile, it would have been OK to omit it, you only need to list work experience for which you will receive points).

Did you check the box when it asked you were self-employed? If yes, you probably did not receive points for (any) of it. If no, then you made an error and will lose the points if you go ahead and submit.

It all depends on how many years of Canadian work experience you received credit for, and how many years you have when the self-employment is subtracted.


That said, I based my application on a noc level B job which I started in Feb this year.
LOL, I have no idea what you mean by this... if you mean "primary NOC code" that only has an impact on FSW applications...

MY question: IRCC is requesting reference letters for all the jobs in my work experience section. Yes, because this first stage is initially automated, and the computer assumes if you list it, that is because you are claiming points for it. To keep those points, you have to submit proof.

Will my owner operated/freelance work experience count as sufficient work experience? Also, was I given this ITA based on both work experiences or just the one I based my application on?
You received the ITA because your CRS score was above the cutoff for your draw. (I believe the last draw was 415 points, but it is different for every draw).

So if IRCC later determines that those points were not valid, they will subtract from your score. If you are still above the cutoff for your draw, you remain eligible. If your score falls below the threshold, you lose your eligibility and will be refused.
 

twranks

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I meant to say that my present job is a skill level B Job. I've worked there for two months now

I would have ticked the self-employed box, but I also know that owning a corporation means you can't be self employed. You can't be anything but an employee of the corporation.

Don't know if that helps clarify my case a bit more...
 

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Excuse my ignorance but how does this work that as the MD of the incorporated company how do you write any confirmation confirming your work experience as an employee with your own company in any specific NOC classification basically self certifying if that is the intention ? Are there not any rules governing any minimum time a company needs to be incorporated much same as minimum time if this were an LMIA application for example as opposed to CEC ?

Answers might be simple just curious thats all.
 

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twranks said:
I meant to say that my present job is a skill level B Job. I've worked there for two months now

I would have ticked the self-employed box, but I also know that owning a corporation means you can't be self employed. You can't be anything but an employee of the corporation.

Don't know if that helps clarify my case a bit more...
Owning your own corporation means you are self-employed - not sure what the confusion is there. To qualify for CEC, you need to have at least one year of work experience in Canada outside of your experience with your own corporation. In other words, you cannot count your work experience from your corporation towards the 1 year CEC requirement. What other work experience do you have in Canada? If ti's just the two months in the skill level B job, you don't qualify for CEC and need to decline the ITA.
 

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twranks said:
Among the jobs I added in my work experience section was my incoroprated business, of which I am the Managing director. It was incorporated in November 2016, but I was doing freelance work on fiverr prior to that in October 2015. I put in this experience as 2015/10- date, managing director of DCS (company name), NOC level A.
In this paragraph, you indicate that you combined the freelance work and the managing director work in a single entry. By not chosing "self-employed" you have erronously indicated that the freelance work was employment.

As for the managing director part... I am uncertain whether this part would be considered self-employment or not. Since the business was incorporated, you were technically an employee of the business (for tax purposes). But if you are also an owner, I think you could be deemed self-employed (depending on what percentage of the business you own). (IRCC may not always view self employment the same way as the CRA - but I am not certain about this).

What I am certain about, is that part of that segment of work experience, 2015/10 to date, was most certainly self-employed, because you included the freelance segment instead of listing it separately. It looks like 13 months was freelance - so you would have to deduct one year of experience from your points...