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Outland - Visiting Canada with TRV while PR is in process

LaFleur

Full Member
Jun 20, 2013
21
0
Category........
Visa Office......
Sao Paulo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
26-09-2013
Doc's Request.
07-11-2013
AOR Received.
09-10-2013
File Transfer...
15-10-2013
Med's Done....
24-05-2013
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
24-01-2014
VISA ISSUED...
21-02-2014
LANDED..........
April 2014
Hey Canadavisa,

I am a long time lurker to this forum but haven't posted anything until as of yet. I am Canadian and my wife is Brazilian, I met her online and visited her from June to September 2012. Her TRV was denied in December 2012 when she wanted to visit me in Canada. When she was denied I changed my flight earlier to go to Brazil (I originally booked my flight so that I would return to Brazil with her, but alas). Anyway, I have been down here in Brazil with her since December 2012 and we did finish our PR application together (outland). I sent the application to my parents in Canada with DHL, they returned it because it was incomplete but it was fixed but it has not been resent to Mississauga.

But anyways, that's enough exposition for now...

I want to visit my parents in Canada this December and this time I want to bring my wife with me. We are going to try again for her TRV. The reasons she was denied last time have been improved so there is a better chance for her to get it. The reasons was her ties to Canada were more than Brazil (we weren't married at the time, we got married in February 2013) and they did not believe she would return after her visit. But as I have said it is different now. I have a permanent resident card issued by the Federal Police which is allowing me to stay here as long as I want. I also work as an English teacher here. She already owns some land here and just last Saturday we got the land in our names (with our house being built). She also has a good job here, money is not an issue.

We had an idea on our minds for her to get a letter from her boss, sign a license of leave for her to leave work but still have the job contract there, apply for her TRV, give the consulate in São Paulo the number for her outland PR visa in progress, a letter from my boss, the document showing our piece of land and pictures of it under construction, my PR card etc. And hopefully to get her TRV to go to Canada with me, while there extending her TRV until her PR is done. Can this be done? There are more ties here for both of us now. If possible, when her PR is done where can she go to land to get her PR visa and COPR? I know if they want an interview they will ask her to go São Paulo. And we are still debating whether or not to send her passport through courier (and pay for them to send it back ourselves), or could they give the outland PR visa while she is in Canada with me?

We aren't going to break any laws, we're both very law biding people. Just confused. The situation is very complicated.

Thanks for your time and help CanadaVisa!
 

Rob_TO

VIP Member
Nov 7, 2012
11,427
1,551
Toronto
Category........
FAM
Visa Office......
Seoul, Korea
App. Filed.......
13-07-2012
AOR Received.
18-08-2012
File Transfer...
21-08-2012
Med's Done....
Sent with App
Passport Req..
N/R - Exempt
VISA ISSUED...
30-10-2012
LANDED..........
16-11-2012
LaFleur said:
And hopefully to get her TRV to go to Canada with me, while there extending her TRV until her PR is done. Can this be done? There are more ties here for both of us now. If possible, when her PR is done where can she go to land to get her PR visa and COPR? I know if they want an interview they will ask her to go São Paulo. And we are still debating whether or not to send her passport through courier (and pay for them to send it back ourselves), or could they give the outland PR visa while she is in Canada with me?
When the time comes to issue visa, the Brazil visa office will need her physical passport to place the visa into. They will then send this and the COPR to her mailing address. The passport must be sent to Sao Paulo for this no matter if she is in Canada or Brazil at the time.

If she comes to Canada, she can change her mailing address to her Canada address while there on TRV. So in case the PPR comes during this time and there are no issues with mailing a passport to Brazil (some countries this is difficult to do), you can do this and they will mail everything back to you in Canada.

Now what happens if she needs to do TRV extension or she can't get extension and needs to leave Canada while her passport is in the visa office of Brazil? I'm not sure. Not quite certain if you need physical passport in hand to do TRV extension.

If they can mail the passport/COPR to your home address in Canada, then all she would need to do is go to the closest Canada/USA land border and do the official landing there.
 

LaFleur

Full Member
Jun 20, 2013
21
0
Category........
Visa Office......
Sao Paulo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
26-09-2013
Doc's Request.
07-11-2013
AOR Received.
09-10-2013
File Transfer...
15-10-2013
Med's Done....
24-05-2013
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
24-01-2014
VISA ISSUED...
21-02-2014
LANDED..........
April 2014
Hey Rob, thanks for the response.

What if her medical exam expires before she gets her visa and she is in Canada? Can she do them inside Canada?
Would we have to pay for them to send the passport back to Canada?
 

Rob_TO

VIP Member
Nov 7, 2012
11,427
1,551
Toronto
Category........
FAM
Visa Office......
Seoul, Korea
App. Filed.......
13-07-2012
AOR Received.
18-08-2012
File Transfer...
21-08-2012
Med's Done....
Sent with App
Passport Req..
N/R - Exempt
VISA ISSUED...
30-10-2012
LANDED..........
16-11-2012
LaFleur said:
Hey Rob, thanks for the response.

What if her medical exam expires before she gets her visa and she is in Canada? Can she do them inside Canada?
Would we have to pay for them to send the passport back to Canada?
If medicals expire then CIC can do 2 things... either extend the existing medicals validity, or force her to take a new medical test. In case of the latter, yes you can do the medical in Canada. There is a comprehensive list at CIC site of all the accepted places to do them, so just look up the Canadian city you would be living in. http://www.cic.gc.ca/pp-md/pp-list.aspx

Regarding sending passports back and forth from Canada to/from Brazil, sorry but no experience here so am not sure. Post your question here for better answers: http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/sao-paulo-applications-201213-t146118.0.html