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AliReza92

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I have a question, on how exactly does one obtain an open work permit? im not concerned with the fees that come with this to obtain one, and I also have a few connections within canada, who will hire me if I obtain a work permit of some sort, But ONLY if i have a work permit, so leaves me thinking am I eligible to apply for an Open Work Permit??

I have graduated in B.Sc. Civil Engineering, and Im a British Citizen who is currently in Canada as a visitor, Im trying to find out all possible ways of obtaining PR within Canada, Which is seeming very difficult and Lawyers just want to take my money....

Please can someone Help....
 

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AliReza92 said:
I have a question, on how exactly does one obtain an open work permit? im not concerned with the fees that come with this to obtain one, and I also have a few connections within canada, who will hire me if I obtain a work permit of some sort, But ONLY if i have a work permit, so leaves me thinking am I eligible to apply for an Open Work Permit??
See here - http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?q=177&t=17

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It is more difficult to get an open work permit all the time. However, if you get "arranged employment", i.e. a job offer that will qualify you for the Skilled Worker or Skilled Trades program, you could use that offer to apply for a work permit and immigration at the same time. So if you know people who want to hire you, their offer will be necessary to proceed. cic.gc.ca/english/hire/offers dot asp
 

AliReza92

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ragluf said:
See here - cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer dot asp?q=177&t=17

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Ragluf thank you for this and i have read on this before and out of those, I guess the one which applies to me is ( 5. You have a temporary resident permit valid for at least six months. ) Being a British Citizen With a British Passport enables me to have this.

Does this mean Im able to apply to for an Open Work Permit?
 

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AliReza92 said:
Ragluf thank you for this and i have read on this before and out of those, I guess the one which applies to me is ( 5. You have a temporary resident permit valid for at least six months. ) Being a British Citizen With a British Passport enables me to have this.

Does this mean Im able to apply to for an Open Work Permit?
No - absolutely not. You don't have a TRP and consequently don't qualify for an open work permit.

You are confusing TRVs with TRPs. They are two completely separate entities.
 

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AliReza92 said:
Ragluf thank you for this and i have read on this before and out of those, I guess the one which applies to me is ( 5. You have a temporary resident permit valid for at least six months. ) Being a British Citizen With a British Passport enables me to have this.

Does this mean Im able to apply to for an Open Work Permit?
You may want to see what CIC means by a "temporary resident permit":
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/glossary.asp#t

Temporary resident permit
A permit that may be granted in exceptional circumstances to a person who does not meet the requirements of Canada's immigration law to enter or remain temporarily in Canada.


FYI - http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/temp/permits/index.asp

Honestly, I have never heard nor have come across someone who made an outright initial application for an open work permit without being under one of the conditions in here http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?q=177&t=17

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AliReza92 said:
I have graduated in B.Sc. Civil Engineering, and Im a British Citizen who is currently in Canada as a visitor, Im trying to find out all possible ways of obtaining PR within Canada, Which is seeming very difficult and Lawyers just want to take my money....
Simply go on this link and check your eligibility to apply for OWP:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/ctc-vac/getting-started.asp
 

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AliReza92 said:
Ragluf thank you for this and i have read on this before and out of those, I guess the one which applies to me is ( 5. You have a temporary resident permit valid for at least six months. ) Being a British Citizen With a British Passport enables me to have this.

Does this mean Im able to apply to for an Open Work Permit?
As said above, you do not have a TRP and do not qualify for an OWP.

If a Canadian employer wants to hire you, they first need to apply for an LMIA; this takes several months, costs the employer $1000 and has strict requirements. If the LMIA is approved, you could then apply for a closed work permit. It is very difficult these days to find such an employer.

You could also check out the IEC program for a working holiday visa, though I'm not sure if they are even opening a 3rd round this year. Note that it is EXTREMELY competitive and 2500 spots in the last round went in 2 minutes.
 

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canuck_in_uk said:
As said above, you do not have a TRP and do not qualify for an OWP.

If a Canadian employer wants to hire you, they first need to apply for an LMIA; this takes several months, costs the employer $1000 and has strict requirements. If the LMIA is approved, you could then apply for a closed work permit. It is very difficult these days to find such an employer.

You could also check out the IEC program for a working holiday visa, though I'm not sure if they are even opening a 3rd round this year. Note that it is EXTREMELY competitive and 2500 spots in the last round went in 2 minutes.
Yes i was checking the IEC for a long time and the first round quota finished it 2 minutes and left me gobsmacked ....


Thanks for the information guys, What would you guys recommend for someone like me ? Would studying be the best route to come to canada?
 

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Yes i was checking the IEC for a long time and the first round quota finished it 2 minutes and left me gobsmacked ....

Thanks for the information guys, What would you guys recommend for someone like me ? Would studying be the best route to come to canada?
Yeah, it was fast. It normally takes at least 10 minutes lol.

Studying can work. If you take a 2 or more year course, you can apply for a 3 year Post Grad Work Permit. If you can gain a year of skilled work experience in that time, you could apply for PR. Note that in order to get a study permit, you would need to show significant proof of funds, to cover international tuition and all.of 6 our living expenses.
 

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canuck_in_uk said:
Yeah, it was fast. It normally takes at least 10 minutes lol.

Studying can work. If you take a 2 or more year course, you can apply for a 3 year Post Grad Work Permit. If you can gain a year of skilled work experience in that time, you could apply for PR. Note that in order to get a study permit, you would need to show significant proof of funds, to cover international tuition and all.of 6 our living expenses.
Would taking a course under 2 years not work? Because I was told by a lawyer to take a 1 year course... then i would get a work permit for the same duration of the course, then i should be able to appy for PR.

And once again thank you soo much for the info Canuck_in_UK
 

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AliReza92 said:
Would taking a course under 2 years not work? Because I was told by a lawyer to take a 1 year course... then i would get a work permit for the same duration of the course, then i should be able to appy for PR.

And once again thank you soo much for the info Canuck_in_UK
Taking a one year course is very risky. It only gives you a one year work permit. Sometimes it can be very difficult to find a job after you finish school that qualifies you to apply to immigrate. And you usually need one full year of work experience to qualify to apply to immigrate. So let's say you finish school and it takes you a month and a half to find a job - you then don't have time to get a year of work experience and qualify to apply for PR before your work permit runs out. It is much much wiser to take a 2 year course to get a 3 year work permit if your ultimate goal is PR. But it's obviously your life...

Consultants just want to make money off you - they will tell you whatever they think you want to hear. Don't believe everything they say.
 

AliReza92

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scylla said:
Taking a one year course is very risky. It only gives you a one year work permit. Sometimes it can be very difficult to find a job after you finish school that qualifies you to apply to immigrate. And you usually need one full year of work experience to qualify to apply to immigrate. So let's say you finish school and it takes you a month and a half to find a job - you then don't have time to get a year of work experience and qualify to apply for PR before your work permit runs out. It is much much wiser to take a 2 year course to get a 3 year work permit if your ultimate goal is PR. But it's obviously your life...
That makes a lot of sense actually, So what your saying is that 1 FULL year of work experience is required... Anything under will not work?

Thanks for this and my last question is, if my uncle owns his own pizza store and is successful, is there a method whereby I can come here and become the manager of his store? and work like that or will that not work? It may be stupid as the business is food, however If maybe coming as managerial position may help? or maybe starting up a new business inside canada?
 

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AliReza92 said:
I have graduated in B.Sc. Civil Engineering, and Im a British Citizen who is currently in Canada as a visitor...
Am I right to assume that this is a British Degree vs. a Canadian one?

AliReza92 said:
Yes i was checking the IEC for a long time and the first round quota finished it 2 minutes and left me gobsmacked ....
For the sake of accuracy, (UK) round one took 12 minutes, 2 minutes for round two [source]:
[quote author=cic.gc.ca/english/work/iec/index.asp?country=gb&cat=wh&jump#country_category_name]Round two (current round)
Quota: 2,500
Opened on: April 7, 2015, at 10:00 EDT (15:00 London time)
Closed on: April 7, 2015 at 10:02 EDT (15:02 London time) Time taken: 2 minutes
Waiting list: 2,814 (out of 5,000) *

Round one
Quota: 2,500 (round one)
Opened on: March 12, 2015, at 10:00 EDT (14:00 London time)
Closed on: March 12, 2015, at 10:12 EDT (14:12 London time) Time taken: 12 minutes. [/quote]

Just mentioning it so future readers don't think it is too impossible. :) (But they do seem to go faster with each successive year.)

France, on the other hand, took 2 and 1 minutes for each round, respectively.