Open post graduate work permit + job offer = "valid job offer" or not?

[Judlu]

Maybe you can help to handle with another question - it's related to "valid job offer":

The situation is:
In Jan. 2016 I got a job offer from my employer and since then I have been working for this company. In that job offer my position was described as "permanent full time" so it's not limited in time. I didn't need an LMIA because I had (and still have) post graduate work permit. It's open PGWP (not employer-specific). And it expires in March 2017.
So generally speaking this job offer is still valid, right? Actually it's limited only by the expiration date of my PGWP.

In this case can I point it as a "valid job offer"?

If so I have to point also that this is exception from LMIA
BUT
according to CIC only post-graduate work permit that is employer-specific can be an exception from LMIA.

I confused:
on the one hand I don't need LMIA to work according to my PGWP and current job offer,
but on the other hand open PGWP is not an exception from LMIA.

It seems that open PGWP is somewhere "in between".

So I don't understand how to reflect it in EE profile better? Do I still have a chance to get my 50 points for a "valid job offer"?

Thanks for the help!

 

[mikko008]

Maybe you can help to handle with another question - it's related to "valid job offer":

The situation is:
In Jan. 2016 I got a job offer from my employer and since then I have been working for this company. In that job offer my position was described as "permanent full time" so it's not limited in time. I didn't need an LMIA because I had (and still have) post graduate work permit. It's open PGWP (not employer-specific). And it expires in March 2017.
So generally speaking this job offer is still valid, right? Actually it's limited only by the expiration date of my PGWP.

In this case can I point it as a "valid job offer"?

If so I have to point also that this is exception from LMIA
BUT
according to CIC only post-graduate work permit that is employer-specific can be an exception from LMIA.

I confused:
on the one hand I don't need LMIA to work according to my PGWP and current job offer,
but on the other hand open PGWP is not an exception from LMIA.

It seems that open PGWP is somewhere "in between".

So I don't understand how to reflect it in EE profile better? Do I still have a chance to get my 50 points for a "valid job offer"?

Thanks for the help!

Hi Judlu,

PGWP is not qualified as a valid job offer under express entry, hence cannot give you additional 50 or 200 points.

 

[simplynd2804]

Ok You got everything wrong here.

1. according to CIC only post-graduate work permit that is employer-specific can be an exception from LMIA : There is no employer specific PGWP out there or none that I have seen.

2. but on the other hand open PGWP is not an exception from LMIA : PGWP are exempt from LMIA. You don't need LMIA to apply for PGWP, you need Canadian completed education.

3. It seems that open PGWP is somewhere "in between". : No it's not in between, CIC made it clear any job offer under PGWP is not valid job offer unless supported by positive LMIA. So it's not in between but it's rather straight answer then there is no extra 50 points for PGWP.

 

[hongye1334]

Ok You got everything wrong here.

1. according to CIC only post-graduate work permit that is employer-specific can be an exception from LMIA : There is no employer specific PGWP out there or none that I have seen.

2. but on the other hand open PGWP is not an exception from LMIA : PGWP are exempt from LMIA. You don't need LMIA to apply for PGWP, you need Canadian completed education.

3. It seems that open PGWP is somewhere "in between". : No it's not in between, CIC made it clear any job offer under PGWP is not valid job offer unless supported by positive LMIA. So it's not in between but it's rather straight answer then there is no extra 50 points for PGWP.

Is LMIA hardly to have?

 

[Liz C]

I'm also a PGWP holder and currently employed in a permanent position. I'm not valid yet for the Canadian Experience, lacking work experience here. So, I'm looking to apply for PR under the Federal Skilled Worker stream because I do have enough work experience outside of CA. In this case, can the employer apply for LMIA to support my PR application? To do so, do I need a new job offer and convert to a closed work permit first? This is to get the extra points for work permits with LMIA...

 

[Liz C]

In addition to my question above, this post from CIC seems to imply that you can get your employer to apply for LMIA for the existing job offer that you have under the PGWP, given that you are seeking support from your employer for your Express Entry application.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=698