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Hi Guys,

I have a post grad work permit expiring at the end of this year and i have a full time job as a software engineer with a reputable firm.

Do i still need an LMIA to apply for EE?

Thanks.
 

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MEHA said:
Hi Guys,

I have a post grad work permit expiring at the end of this year and i have a full time job as a software engineer with a reputable firm.

Do i still need an LMIA to apply for EE?

Thanks.
You don't need positive LMIA to apply though you need to meet minimum requirements per category (e.g 1 year full-time Canadian working experience for CEC). The difference is an extra 600 points if you obtain a positive LMIA.
 

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manidhatt said:
Majority of the international students are on the same boat as you. There has to be a way around. Everyone is welcome to canada. But, for internationals after paying fees and taxes and getting work experience still getting those 400's points seems unfair. We did not require LMIA or LMO for the work we did as we already had work permit. At the end it is their country n their rules. We can just hope that they give us some benefit for all that we have done yet.
You're right. I prefer to wait couple of months and we'll have a better understanding of what CIC intended to do.
 

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Yes, me and my wife are on the same boat, job offer with PGWP working in Canada, but without a LMIA, I think we all the international students must starts to send the letter to the CIC as soon as possible and complain about this, maybe we can get a better solution, and make the way easiest its true we spent a lot of money in this country, paying taxes, etc etc, and our way is always harder than people as the refugees for example, they have everyting easy here in Canada!!! we must start to send our complain letters...
 

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imho best get an lmia for the job offer - gov is promising super quick turnaround - if you want the points, that is :)
 

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If you have a positive Labour Market Impact Assessment for an employee holding a temporary work permit to whom you wish to extend a permanent job offer, the LMIA may still be valid under Express Entry. However, if the position or person was previously exempt from an LMIA, then a new LMIA will be required under Express Entry.
 

marcus66502

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manidhatt said:
Majority of the international students are on the same boat as you. There has to be a way around. Everyone is welcome to canada. But, for internationals after paying fees and taxes and getting work experience still getting those 400's points seems unfair. We did not require LMIA or LMO for the work we did as we already had work permit. At the end it is their country n their rules. We can just hope that they give us some benefit for all that we have done yet.
The only thing YOU have done is take away a Canadian's job, after studying here. Just so we're clear on THAT!

You did not require LMIA for the job you got on the PGWP and THAT is wrong! I'm sure the time is coming when the Government of Canada will correct that as well. They're just doing things slowly, piece by piece, and quietly, to avoid any major debate on it.

Nope, there is NO way around: LMIA or no 600 points. You're no different from anybody else. You want the same thing as any other foreign national: a permanent life and a job here, and you don't care that you displace Canadians in the process getting what you want.

Sorry! This isn't your boat and no one cares for your crying crocodile tears.
 

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marcus66502 said:
The only thing YOU have done is take away a Canadian's job, after studying here. Just so we're clear on THAT!

You did not require LMIA for the job you got on the PGWP and THAT is wrong! I'm sure the time is coming when the Government of Canada will correct that as well. They're just doing things slowly, piece by piece, and quietly, to avoid any major debate on it.

Nope, there is NO way around: LMIA or no 600 points. You're no different from anybody else. You want the same thing as any other foreign national: a permanent life and a job here, and you don't care that you displace Canadians in the process getting what you want.

Sorry! This isn't your boat and no one cares for your crying crocodile tears.
I believe they wont do it...coz international students are one of the great source of there economy...just look at UK they removed work permit now most top talent students dont consider it as a viable option....So yes we have taken a Canadians job but thats not our fault if our employer consider us more better of an option instead of a Canadian in spite of all the immigration overhead/burden we carry
 

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dukhi said:
I believe they wont do it...coz international students are one of the great source of there economy...just look at UK they removed work permit now most top talent students dont consider it as a viable option....So yes we have taken a Canadians job but thats not our fault if our employer consider us more better of an option instead of a Canadian in spite of all the immigration overhead/burden we carry
Well, you keep believing they won't do it, just like you and your ilk believed in the permanence of the old Skilled Worker program and in the specialness of the CEC category. And then you get a rude surprise when they roll out things like Express Entry and the LMIA.

There goes the old myth again, common in almost all the foreigner schmucks: that they're wanted and needed in the [fill in the country they're trying to get into] and that they're such a boon for the host country's economy. You're not exactly wanted. Just go read comments in any immigration news article. Yes, of course to you those are not representative of the majority opinion. That's what you tell yourself cause they're not what you want to hear.

I think the UK did an awesome job removing the work permit option. There is no net benefit from people who take jobs away from the locals. Profits in the bank for universities is not the same as a good economy overall. So yea, no wonder the Brits don't care if the foreign students don't want to go to the UK any more. Why should they care? If they want work permits, then they're not genuine students. They're people who just want to live in the UK.

Your employers don't consider you a better option. They consider you a cheaper option until your work permit runs out. Employers are on the look out to protect their profits, which is again, not always in the interest of the local population. That's why we have a Government, to act in the best interests of all Canadians, not just corporations (even though sometimes I don't think the Government does a very good job at that).
 

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manidhatt said:
We know about you canadians who cry about paying a couple grand fees and that too u get from osap.wonder what you will do with a job. Pretty sure I'm not working for a cheap rate. Must be more than your pay. So better keep your nice words to yourself sir.
He is not a Canadian. He just got his PR.
 

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Phil89 said:
He is not a Canadian. He just got his PR.
That explains a lot.
 

Froze950

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You can keep complaining all you want. I am on PGWP without LMIA. I have realized that I wont be getting 600 points unless I get a positive LMIA.

Why dont you guys who think "it's unfair" try doing something about it. Why don't you guys write to CIC, lets just see what they say. I am sure they will value your input a lot!! While you are doing that why dont you just ask them to give you PR with free monthly massages and some sweets. I am sure they make it a high priority since you have paid " TAX MONEY ".

Good Luck!
 

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All right guys calm down. My apologies if you found my comment offensive. I am not blaming others for this situation and expect the same. Even you can't say that all internationals did was taking away canadian jobs. Nobody threatens employers to give jobs. If they opt for foreign workers that is not our problem. If locals are too good then it shouldn't be a problem to find a job.

Keep this forum nice n clean n use better words
 

marcus66502

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Phil89 said:
He is not a Canadian. He just got his PR.
Wrong again!

I've had PR status for almost three years now.

I'm pretty sure that even after I get Canadian citizenship in a few months, in your head I'll never be Canadian. But you have a problem: it does not matter what's in your head. It's not what people think of me that will make me a Canadian citizen. That will be the legal status of citizenship in the government records. Your opinion has no importance whatsoever. Zero! Zip. Zilch. Nada.

I said Wrong again because you've been wrong so many times before you must be getting tired of being off the mark all the time. Like for example the time in another thread when you said that I'll always be an immigrant like all of you.

That's great of you to say that, except you are NOT an immigrant here. So you're wrong on that count. Again, it's not what you think you are in your head. It's the legal status you hold that matters. Doesn't matter what you think or say. As of now, all you have is temporary authorization to remain here.

As for me always being an immigrant, you're wrong on that count too! Like I said before, I'll be naturalized as a Canadian citizen in just a few short months (you don't need to wish me good luck with that cause I don't need it. I meet all the requirements). Then I'll be getting all the benefits of citizenship, and while I vacation overseas as a Canadian, you will be playing the Express Entry lottery year after year just to get that immigrant status.

Speaking of playing the EE lottery, you are aware that you don't need to be in Canada for that, right? You can play the lottery in your home country, .... you know ... that great country with the fictitious, non-existent "European" passport.

You're good for laughs, I'll give you that much!