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Offer letter but not LMIA

nehabhi

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Jul 4, 2016
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Hi,

I am planning to apply for PR under CEC category. I already have 1.5 years of work experience and have a valid offer letter, however, it does not come under LMIA category. Also, the job nature comes under LMIA category. I got to know through someone that the company can raise the request for LMIA and it will be free of cost. I have confirmed with the company and they are ready to give me that letter but they need the complete procedure.

Does anyone have an idea about the process to convert employment letter into LMIA.

Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks,
Neha
 

RockCan

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Jun 10, 2016
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Category........
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App. Filed.......
14-10-2015
Nomination.....
15-04-16
AOR Received.
06-05-16
LmIA is long an tedios process, Your employed needs to go through a long process for that. Most of employers are not willing to do that (includig mine), the chances of getting LMIA approved is not 100%.You should try for PNP programmes otherwise.
 

ozlis

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Oct 20, 2015
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nehabhi said:
Hi,

I am planning to apply for PR under CEC category. I already have 1.5 years of work experience and have a valid offer letter, however, it does not come under LMIA category. Also, the job nature comes under LMIA category. I got to know through someone that the company can raise the request for LMIA and it will be free of cost. I have confirmed with the company and they are ready to give me that letter but they need the complete procedure.

Does anyone have an idea about the process to convert employment letter into LMIA.

Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks,
Neha
The actual application will not cost anything to support your PR, however they still need to go through the full LMIA process. This includes advertising your role for a month prior to submitting all of the paperwork. These items, the advertising and time taken to gather the submission will cost the employer. It is specifically outlined that you cannot pay your employer for any of this.

Here is the link to the process:

http://www.esdc.gc.ca/en/foreign_workers/hire/permanent/overview.page

Good luck!
 

jaybe

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Jun 22, 2016
224
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Alberta
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
AOR Received.
16 June 2016
File Transfer...
N/A
Med's Done....
06 June 2016
Interview........
Not needed at this time
Passport Req..
14th Dec
VISA ISSUED...
04 jan 2017
LANDED..........
10 jan 2017
Getting positive LMIA is not very hard(my personal experience), all need to be done by your employer, however you need to follow the certain procedures to apply LMIA, eg. advertisements in 3 different sites including jobbank for a month and etc.
It will cost 1000CAD to your employer to apply PR LMIA for you. It will take approx. 1 month to get result after submission.

My employer submitted LMIA application in april 01 and got approved in april 20th this year.

Let me know if you need more info.
 

ozlis

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Oct 20, 2015
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jaybe said:
Getting positive LMIA is not very hard(my personal experience), all need to be done by your employer, however you need to follow the certain procedures to apply LMIA, eg. advertisements in 3 different sites including jobbank for a month and etc.
It will cost 1000CAD to your employer to apply PR LMIA for you. It will take approx. 1 month to get result after submission.

My employer submitted LMIA application in april 01 and get approved in april 20th this year.

Let me know if you need more info.
Not quite correct - the $1000 version is if you need a work permit as well as the support for your PR. The OP has a job (and assuming a permit) already, so they will not need to pay this fee.

LMIA processing times vary wildly from under 10 days to over three months, there is a thread dedicated to it in the foreign workers section of the forum if you are interested in reading on the average trends.
 

jaybe

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Jun 22, 2016
224
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Alberta
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
AOR Received.
16 June 2016
File Transfer...
N/A
Med's Done....
06 June 2016
Interview........
Not needed at this time
Passport Req..
14th Dec
VISA ISSUED...
04 jan 2017
LANDED..........
10 jan 2017
ozlis said:
Not quite correct - the $1000 version is if you need a work permit as well as the support for your PR. The OP has a job (and assuming a permit) already, so they will not need to pay this fee.

LMIA processing times vary wildly from under 10 days to over three months, there is a thread dedicated to it in the foreign workers section of the forum if you are interested in reading on the average trends.
I also had an open work permit and was working in same company for last 3 years.
Prior to 2013, it cost employers nothing to apply for LMOs. But now, every employers have to pay 1000$ fees for new LMIAs. Link below:

http://www.esdc.gc.ca/en/foreign_workers/hire/median_wage/low/requirements.page
 

scylla

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Jun 8, 2010
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28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
jaybe said:
I also had an open work permit and was working in same company for last 3 years.
Prior to 2013, it cost employers nothing to apply for LMOs. But now, every employers have to pay 1000$ fees for new LMIAs. Link below:

http://www.esdc.gc.ca/en/foreign_workers/hire/median_wage/low/requirements.page
It still costs nothing if they are obtained for the specific purpose of supporting a PR application. The $1000 fee only applies to LMIAs supporting work permits.
 

jaybe

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Jun 22, 2016
224
7
Alberta
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
AOR Received.
16 June 2016
File Transfer...
N/A
Med's Done....
06 June 2016
Interview........
Not needed at this time
Passport Req..
14th Dec
VISA ISSUED...
04 jan 2017
LANDED..........
10 jan 2017
nehabhi said:
Hi,

I am planning to apply for PR under CEC category. I already have 1.5 years of work experience and have a valid offer letter, however, it does not come under LMIA category. Also, the job nature comes under LMIA category. I got to know through someone that the company can raise the request for LMIA and it will be free of cost. I have confirmed with the company and they are ready to give me that letter but they need the complete procedure.

Does anyone have an idea about the process to convert employment letter into LMIA.

Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks,


Neha
Matthew Iwama has some good info. on LMIA process. Check it if you want.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkKo8LbgqPI&list=PLz1b14a0PeM7Nt_DpSWrzQF2UeucA1M4z
 

jaybe

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Jun 22, 2016
224
7
Alberta
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
AOR Received.
16 June 2016
File Transfer...
N/A
Med's Done....
06 June 2016
Interview........
Not needed at this time
Passport Req..
14th Dec
VISA ISSUED...
04 jan 2017
LANDED..........
10 jan 2017
scylla said:
It still costs nothing if they are obtained for the specific purpose of supporting a PR application. The $1000 fee only applies to LMIAs supporting work permits.
My company paid $1,000 to process LMIA to support my PR application, and I already posted the link that says it costs employer 1,000 for LMIAs supporting work permits. I am not sure which free LMIA you are talking about. Care to post a link??? If it's really free, that would be helpful for so many members. This page still says it costs the same for PR too:
http://www.esdc.gc.ca/en/foreign_workers/hire/permanent/requirements.page
 

devnill

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Dec 5, 2015
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If you pay $1000, you can also use the LMIA to obtain TWP.

If you do not pay $1000, you cannot use the LMIA to obtain TWP, it may be used for PR purposes only.


This is explained on this page

http://www.esdc.gc.ca/en/foreign_workers/hire/permanent/requirements.page

"Note: The processing fee does not apply to employers choosing only to support a foreign national's application for a permanent resident visa."
 

scylla

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Jun 8, 2010
97,404
23,197
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
jaybe said:
My company paid $1,000 to process LMIA to support my PR application, and I already posted the link that says it costs employer 1,000 for LMIAs supporting work permits. I am not sure which free LMIA you are talking about. Care to post a link??? If it's really free, that would be helpful for so many members. This page still says it costs the same for PR too:
http://www.esdc.gc.ca/en/foreign_workers/hire/permanent/requirements.page
Read the text in the blue box on the page you quoted. That's where the fee exemption is explained. I think this fee exemption is a pretty well known fact here and won't come as a surprise to most members.
 

jaybe

Hero Member
Jun 22, 2016
224
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Alberta
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
AOR Received.
16 June 2016
File Transfer...
N/A
Med's Done....
06 June 2016
Interview........
Not needed at this time
Passport Req..
14th Dec
VISA ISSUED...
04 jan 2017
LANDED..........
10 jan 2017
Oh wow! that's a good news.Thanks guys.
 

nehabhi

Full Member
Jul 4, 2016
25
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Thanks Everyone!!

Yes, I need LMIA only for PR purpose. This means that my employer can raise the request without any fees.

Can someone help me with the exact procedure (or the name of the forms) the company needs to fill?

Also, form number EMP5593 says:
"
permanent resident visa application (this means you will hire the foreign national only after their immigration application is processed and the
permanent resident visa is issued). This option does not have a processing fee. "

It means my employer needs to apply under this category, however, it says that "hire the foreign national only after their immigration application is processed". I just want to make sure that it will not impact our process and employer can still apply for LMIA only for PR.

Last but not least, if someone can provide me the list of documents need to be filled by employer for LMIA(only for PR) would be appreciated. I do have but still want to reassure myself.
 

scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
97,404
23,197
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
They need to advertise the job for a month first. Have they advertised the job for at least a month according to the LMIA advertising requirements?
 

ozlis

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Oct 20, 2015
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nehabhi said:
Thanks Everyone!!

Yes, I need LMIA only for PR purpose. This means that my employer can raise the request without any fees.

Can someone help me with the exact procedure (or the name of the forms) the company needs to fill?

Also, form number EMP5593 says:
"
permanent resident visa application (this means you will hire the foreign national only after their immigration application is processed and the
permanent resident visa is issued). This option does not have a processing fee. "

It means my employer needs to apply under this category, however, it says that "hire the foreign national only after their immigration application is processed". I just want to make sure that it will not impact our process and employer can still apply for LMIA only for PR.

Last but not least, if someone can provide me the list of documents need to be filled by employer for LMIA(only for PR) would be appreciated. I do have but still want to reassure myself.
There is a checklist on the last couple of pages of the application form that outlines fairly clearly which documents need to be submitted.

And yes, you can apply in that category while you are working there without impacting anything.