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Omshri

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December 2009 to December 2011 - my work permit is showing occupation as "Embedded sys software designer (NOC 9990.2)" (Under remarks section nothing has mentioned )

Jan 2012 to till date - work permit is showing occupation as "Software & Comp sys evaluators" (but under remarks section it is mentioned as "Intra company transferee.retained status as SYSTEM ADMINISTRATOR .")

The thing is since my start(December 2009 till Now) I do system administrator duties only and confused what NOC should I use and not sure why CEC gave occupation as "Embedded sys software designer " in my previous work permit..

Please advise

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PMM

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Hi


Omshri said:
December 2009 to December 2011 - my work permit is showing occupation as "Embedded sys software designer (NOC 9990.2)" (Under remarks section nothing has mentioned )

Jan 2012 to till date - work permit is showing occupation as "Software & Comp sys evaluators" (but under remarks section it is mentioned as "Intra company transferee.retained status as SYSTEM ADMINISTRATOR .")

The thing is since my start(December 2009 till Now) I do system administrator duties only and confused what NOC should I use and not sure why CEC gave occupation as "Embedded sys software designer " in my previous work permit..

Please advise

Thank you
1. 9990.2 was a synthetic code for one of the 7 systems jobs that didn't require a LMO at the time the work permit was issued. The only province where that is used now is BC and Quebec.
2. So your latest work permit was issued under proper NOC and is probably 0213 if a manager if not, then it is in the 217* probably.
 

love-canada

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Hi PMM,

Can you please suggest the right NOC code that i can use for the below scenario.

Nov 2008 to may 2009 - work permit is showing occupation as "Embedded sys software designer (NOC 9990.2)" (Under remarks section has mentioned my client name)

Jan 2010 to Dec 2010 - work permit is showing occupation as "Embedded sys software designer (NOC 9990.2)" (Under remarks section has mentioned my client name)

Jan 2011 to Dec 2011 - work permit is showing occupation as "Software Developer - Services (NOC 9990.5)" (Under remarks section has mentioned my client name)

Jan 2012 to till date - work permit is showing occupation as "Software & Comp sys evaluators" (but under remarks section it is mentioned as "Intra company transferee. Occupation: systems testing technician.")

How my reference letter should in general can say a software engineer or should i mention each period as per the work permit.

Thanks..
 

Omshri

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Thank you very much PMM. God bless you!
1) You are correct, 9990.2 was code for 7 systems jobs that didn't require a LMO at the time the work permit was issued.MY employer was required WP urgently that’s why it was under this category however my job duties and responsibilities were submitted as per SYSTEM ADMINISTRATOR.
2) For latest work permit also my job duties and responsibilities were submitted as per SYSTEM ADMINISTRATOR and CEC this time gave WP occupation shows as “"Software & Comp sys evaluators"
My job title (SYSTEM ADMINISTRATOR), duties and responsibilities falls under NOC: 2281

http://www5.hrsdc.gc.ca/noc/english/noc/2011/Profile.aspx?val=2&val1=2281

CAN I PUT this NOC code in the form.MY employer will provide the reference letter job title SYSTEM ADMINISTRATOR duties and responsibilities matching to NOC: 2281

Thank you kindly
 

PMM

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Omshri said:
Thank you very much PMM. God bless you!
1) You are correct, 9990.2 was code for 7 systems jobs that didn't require a LMO at the time the work permit was issued.MY employer was required WP urgently that's why it was under this category however my job duties and responsibilities were submitted as per SYSTEM ADMINISTRATOR.
2) For latest work permit also my job duties and responsibilities were submitted as per SYSTEM ADMINISTRATOR and CEC this time gave WP occupation shows as “"Software & Comp sys evaluators"
My job title (SYSTEM ADMINISTRATOR), duties and responsibilities falls under NOC: 2281

http://www5.hrsdc.gc.ca/noc/english/noc/2011/Profile.aspx?val=2&val1=2281

CAN I PUT this NOC code in the form.MY employer will provide the reference letter job title SYSTEM ADMINISTRATOR duties and responsibilities matching to NOC: 2281

Thank you kindly
No, if you use 2281 Computer network technicians and the experience letter is for 2172 Database analysts and data administrators you will have a NOC mismatch and create all sort of problems for yourself in the application.

NOC 2281

Main duties

Computer network technicians perform some or all of the following duties:

Maintain, troubleshoot and administer the use of local area networks (LANs), wide area networks (WANs), mainframe networks, computer workstations, connections to the Internet and peripheral equipment
Evaluate and install computer hardware, networking software, operating system software and software applications
Operate master consoles to monitor the performance of computer systems and networks and to co-ordinate access and use of computer networks
Provide problem-solving services to network users
Install, maintain, troubleshoot and upgrade Web-server hardware and software
Implement network traffic and security monitoring software, and optimize server performance
Perform routine network start up and close down and maintain control records
Perform data backups and disaster recovery operations
Conduct tests and perform security and quality controls
Control and monitor e-mail use, Web navigation, and installed software
Perform shell scripting or other basic scripting tasks
May supervise other workers in this group.

Employment requirements

NOC 2172

Main duties

Database analysts perform some or all of the following duties:

Collect and document user requirements
Design and develop database architecture for information systems projects
Design, construct, modify, integrate, implement and test data models and database management systems
Conduct research and provide advice to other informatics professionals regarding the selection, application and implementation of database management tools
Operate database management systems to analyze data and perform data mining analysis.
May lead, co-ordinate or supervise other workers in this group.
 

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Thank you PMM.. you are superb
As per your reply I think you got in confusion I never stated that my experience letter is for 2172 Database analysts and data administrators.

I do SYSTEM ADMINISTRATOR job which falls under NOC 2281.MY EMPLOYER can provide the reference letter that since last two years I am working as SYSTEM ADMINISTRATOR with duties above you mentioned.Please advise if this ok to use NOC. 2281.
however My concern was only I had "Embedded sys software designer" on MY WP of 2 years which you says is not a problem and it was given without LMO.

NOC 2281 Computer network technicians

Example Titles
Internet Web site technician
LAN (local area network) administrator
LAN (local area network) technician
Web technician
computer network technician
data centre operator
network administrator
network support technician
supervisor, computer network technicians
system administrator
 

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DEAR PMM and OTHER SENIORS PLS HELP
 

Omshri

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love-canada

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Hi omshri,

i am also on the same boat. i applied in oct 2011 as software engineer with NOC 2173 as my work permits were showing 9990.2 and 9990.5 at that time though my duties are of a software tester and mine was refused due to the absence of employer reference letter.

I did not request reference letter from employer earlier because the duties i perform does not match with the occupations in the work permits i hold at that time.

Mean while i got a work permit for 2012 with occupation as systems testing technician which is true to my duties and i am planning to reapply with employee reference letter this time. My employer would give reference letter with below duties which i am performing for the past three years and these are in match with systems testing technician.

my duties include for the past three years include:
1. Analyze requirements
2. Develop test plan
3. prepare test cases
4. Create test data and execute test cases

As my application refused earlier is having NOC 2173, wil this be a problem to reapply with 2283.

Please suggest..
 

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HELP about NOC .. PMM pls advise

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Hi Seniors/ Omshri/Love-canada

i am also on the same boat ,Please advise below NOC Clarification

NOC code issue
My WP -1 has occupation as “Embedded Software designer” which belong to NOC 2173 (skill A)
My WP- 2 and 3 have occupation as “Software computer system Evaluators” NOC 2283(skill B)
I called CIC call center to check my NOC code, they told me that my 1 st Work permit Occupation code is 9990500(I don't what it means) & 2 nd and 3 rd Work permit NOC Code is 2283.
Could you please let me know about my 1st work permit NOC code and suggest me which NOC code do i need use to apply PR.

My all roles and responsibilities will suites to NOC 2171 (Skill A)- Software QA analyst and NOC 2283(Skill B)- Test Analyst
Please guide me, what is proper NOC code do you want me choose applying PR.
 

india1981

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I am also on the same boat..
I applied PR with 2173 NOC though my latest work permit & job duties fall under NOC 2283.My lawyer is advised me go for 2173...
now, i am more worried that PR IS REJECTED due to wrong NOC code metioned for many of them..

Seniors, please advise?
 

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india1981 said:
I am also on the same boat..
I applied PR with 2173 NOC though my latest work permit & job duties fall under NOC 2283.My lawyer is advised me go for 2173...
now, i am more worried that PR IS REJECTED due to wrong NOC code metioned for many of them..

Seniors, please advise?
With all due respect, are you crazy?

You have an immigration lawyer who has told you what to do, and you are writing on this forum asking novices if you should do the opposite?

Follow your immigration lawyers advice!
 

Harpreet1988

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Hello

I am currently working in Best Buy geek Squad as Computer Technician ( CIA 3 ) Senior
My job duties are
Communicate electronically and in person with computer users experiencing difficulties to determine and document problems experienced
Computer repairs ( both Hardware and software ) Laptops and desktops includes virus removal and all stuff
Smartphone repairs
new computer setups
network support
technical support
i want to apply under AINP and i have confusion in NOC code
Can somebody assist me in telling what noc code under should i apply
i am confused in noc code 2242 and 2282 or any other
Plz help as soon as possible i m running out of time