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Noc 9232 and noc 9421 confusion

Malik87

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Urgent help needed for noc selection. I am working in a pharmaceutical company as production technician and noc 9232 has job title of pharmaceutical processing operator and on the other hand 9421 also has almost same duties but 9421 is noc c.. Kindly suggest what to select.. Its for cec as i am in ontarion and completed my one year already..
 

ultra99

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Malik87 said:
Urgent help needed for noc selection. I am working in a pharmaceutical company as production technician and noc 9232 has job title of pharmaceutical processing operator and on the other hand 9421 also has almost same duties but 9421 is noc c.. Kindly suggest what to select.. Its for cec as i am in ontarion and completed my one year already..
I don't think NOC C is counted, so if the duties are similar, go for 9232.
 

Malik87

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Thanks for responding.. I also want to mention that some comapnies are posting this job with noc 9232 but my comapny posted this few months ago with noc 9421 so really confused what to do. Does cic confirm noc code from the company or they just need job letter with resposibilties and proof like pay stubs??
 

DoubleS

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Nov 5, 2014
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Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
1221
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
Nov 5, 2014
Doc's Request.
CCC Jan 8, 2015
LANDED..........
Currently in Canada
Malik87 said:
Urgent help needed for noc selection. I am working in a pharmaceutical company as production technician and noc 9232 has job title of pharmaceutical processing operator and on the other hand 9421 also has almost same duties but 9421 is noc c.. Kindly suggest what to select.. Its for cec as i am in ontarion and completed my one year already..
NOC C experience will not benefit you for CEC -- Express Entry.

This is what CIC says:
"1. You must show that you did the duties set out in the lead statement of the occupational description in the NOC, including all the essential duties and most of the main duties listed.

2. If you cannot show that your work experience meets the description in the NOC, you are not eligible under this program."
So, if your work experience letter from your company shows that you meet the stipulations set out in point 1 for NOC 9232, then you can enter it as your primary NOC, if not, then you would fall under point 2.

Quick question, do you have an approved LMIA?
 

Malik87

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Feb 24, 2015
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No i never got lmia as i am on pgwp. The job description letter states mostly duties of noc 9232 and under noc 9232 the job title also has pharmaceutical processing operator which is my current job too. My confusion is that does cic confirm noc from company or they only match job responsibilities? And my wage also meet the minimum wage level for ontario and its fulltime with all medical and health benefits.
 

DoubleS

Hero Member
Nov 5, 2014
602
58
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
1221
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
Nov 5, 2014
Doc's Request.
CCC Jan 8, 2015
LANDED..........
Currently in Canada
Malik87 said:
No i never got lmia as i am on pgwp. The job description letter states mostly duties of noc 9232 and under noc 9232 the job title also has pharmaceutical processing operator which is my current job too. My confusion is that does cic confirm noc from company or they only match job responsibilities? And my wage also meet the minimum wage level for ontario and its fulltime with all medical and health benefits.
A lot of times CIC makes a decision using other checking mechanisms without contacting the applicant's place of employment, but sometimes they do contact the employer. There are no guarantees either way what methods they will use. I would suggest that you get a very detailed reference letter from your company that would give the CIC officer no doubts that you perform the "duties set out in the lead statement of the occupational description in the NOC, including all the essential duties and most of the main duties listed".

In my opinion, even if CIC was to contact your employer, I don't think it would be to confirm what NOC your company thinks suits what you do. They would want to know what are your job duties/responsibilities and they(CIC) would determine if your duties match with the NOC(9232) you entered.

This is just my opinion, so hopefully other members will weigh in on the conversation as well.
 

Malik87

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Feb 24, 2015
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Thanks a lot for resonding my questions... My job letter from comapny has mostly evrything that is included in noc 9232 job responsiblitues mentioned by cic. So i think i will choose 9232.
 

DoubleS

Hero Member
Nov 5, 2014
602
58
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
1221
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
Nov 5, 2014
Doc's Request.
CCC Jan 8, 2015
LANDED..........
Currently in Canada
Malik87 said:
Thanks a lot for resonding my questions... My job letter from comapny has mostly evrything that is included in noc 9232 job responsiblitues mentioned by cic. So i think i will choose 9232.
You are very welcome! All the best with your application.