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NOC 4131 category application rejected

vmpvmp

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Nov 26, 2009
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I received Rejection letter on 26.12.09 (dtd. 16.12.09) I will place the contents in a separate thread so that it can help to many people. But now a days I am facing some other problems so it will take few days.
 

vahidvahid

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Jul 11, 2009
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vmpvmp said:
I received Rejection letter on 26.12.09 (dtd. 16.12.09) I will place the contents in a separate thread so that it can help to many people. But now a days I am facing some other problems so it will take few days.
vmpvmp,

Sorry about that, is it related to NOC duties?

Regards
 

SDESAI1981

Star Member
Jun 9, 2009
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Hi vmpvmp
Sorry about rejection. I will be getting same letter soon.
I can understand your personal problems so take your time.
Please let me know whether CHC New Dehli has returned original documents to you with rejection letter or not?
Also please confirm whether it is based on NOC or other?
Take your time....
Regards Desai

vmpvmp said:
I received Rejection letter on 26.12.09 (dtd. 16.12.09) I will place the contents in a separate thread so that it can help to many people. But now a days I am facing some other problems so it will take few days.
 

Nit4canada

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May 13, 2009
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amk said:
i got rejection.
no more proceeding to Canada.
Hi AMK,

Very sorry to hear that it was a rejection on your case. On what grounds they refused your application? Please reply. Thanks
 

huanhuan19

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Feb 23, 2009
203
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Category........
Visa Office......
was in Buffalo, USA, later in NY on Aug11,09
NOC Code......
4131
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
14-10-2008
Doc's Request.
03-12-2009
AOR Received.
26-02-2009
File Transfer...
11-08-2009
Med's Request
03-12-2009
Med's Done....
23-12-2009
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
27-01-2010
VISA ISSUED...
22-02-2010
LANDED..........
??-??-2010
Sorry to hear that.

I have very similar situation as yours. I think Teaching assistantships counts for working experience but not within 38 priority job titles. 1 year as teaching assistant means you have half of year full time working experiance, plus your 1.5 years continuous back in your country. The total is 17 points I believe. I guess your employment letter must be very important to show you are eligible to further processing. I am not sure of these things. When did you file your applications? I submitted my application Oct 14, 2008. So I am not sure how my application was reviewed first.

Luckily I was requested medical exam already and hope they won't reject me later.
 

huanhuan19

Hero Member
Feb 23, 2009
203
7
Category........
Visa Office......
was in Buffalo, USA, later in NY on Aug11,09
NOC Code......
4131
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
14-10-2008
Doc's Request.
03-12-2009
AOR Received.
26-02-2009
File Transfer...
11-08-2009
Med's Request
03-12-2009
Med's Done....
23-12-2009
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
27-01-2010
VISA ISSUED...
22-02-2010
LANDED..........
??-??-2010
Can2009Applicant said:
any of you people here have phd or applying as teaching assistant under 4131?
I do not think Teaching assistant is under NOC4131, BUT it does count for job experience for points.
 
Oct 15, 2009
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Hi huanhuan19,

thanks for u'r reply.
I do not which NOC code to apply to? Can you help me? :)

I have PhD (Chemistry) and post-doc from US, and was teaching assistant for 7 years while doing my PhD.

I do not know whether to pick 4121 or 4131? I also see 4122 (TA, post doc), but it is not in 38 eligible list, it appears in only secondary title list?

Please suggest.

And Happy New Year to all, it is already New Year in Eastern Hemisphere.
 

jnathan

VIP Member
Feb 3, 2009
4,513
142
Category........
Visa Office......
Sheng Chiu
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
21st Jan 2010
Doc's Request.
10th March 2010
AOR Received.
10th June 2010
IELTS Request
provided
File Transfer...
IN PROCESS: 12th October, 2010
Med's Request
Withdrawal Request sent....Was waiting for files to return....instead of returning the files, VO sent the MR !!
Med's Done....
28 May 2012
Passport Req..
24 July 2012
Very harsh rejection and You got a bad luck.
Sane JD's , other people getting approved, but yours one they rejected.

There are hundreds of Application Assessment officers and they have different mood and the worst thing is that there is no appeal/Review policy in the FSW category. This seems very frustrating for people who dont desreve rejection.
 

mpapdp.1984

Hero Member
Oct 27, 2009
271
6
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
NOC Code......
4121
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
13-11-2008
AOR Received.
18-03-2009
File Transfer...
27-10-2009
Med's Request
16-04-2010
Med's Done....
29-04-2010 (Reached Ottawa May 4 2010)
Interview........
waived
Can2009Applicant said:
Hi huanhuan19,

thanks for u'r reply.
I do not which NOC code to apply to? Can you help me? :)

I have PhD (Chemistry) and post-doc from US, and was teaching assistant for 7 years while doing my PhD.

I do not know whether to pick 4121 or 4131? I also see 4122 (TA, post doc), but it is not in 38 eligible list, it appears in only secondary title list?

Please suggest.



And Happy New Year to all, it is already New Year in Eastern Hemisphere.
Can2009Applicant:

One suggestion you can try. Technically post-docs are designated as Faculty in US universities. Now I'm assuming as a post-doc you are conducting research, writing publications in scientific journals, writing grant proposals to obtain funding, attending national and international conferences, reviewing manuscripts for publication in journals and maybe mentoring students in your lab.

Now, if you can get your PhD professor to write an employment letter stating you are working as a 'Visiting Scholar' at ...University and mention all the responsibilities that you are performing (which are true because you are doing all these things), you can apply in NOC code 4121 and I think it should be a slam dunk case.

Talk to your professor and mention your predicament, I'm sure he will be more than willing to write you an employment letter you need.

If anyone else has suggestions, they can also contribute.

Good luck.
 

rupeshhari

VIP Member
Sep 15, 2008
3,686
255
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
NOC Code......
4131
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
Dec 2008 to CIO
Doc's Request.
Jan 2009
AOR Received.
Feb 2009 from VO
IELTS Request
Didn't do IELTS.
File Transfer...
Not transfered to regional office.
Med's Request
July 2010 with RPRF and another PCC.
Med's Done....
Meds - September 2010. PCC - Late Oct 2010
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
Early November 2010
VISA ISSUED...
December 2010 - Exactly days shy of 2 years since I sent in my application to CIO.
LANDED..........
2011
are you not doing any lecturing as a post-doc?
 

barabashka_

Star Member
Aug 12, 2009
64
1
Hm...is another postdoc in Canada possible?
This will bring you to Canada now, and you can apply in FSW Cat 3 one year later....

For a postdoc position, you dont need LMO.
 
Oct 15, 2009
14
2
Thank you all for the replies. Appreciate it.

mpapdp.1984, did you mean obtaining a letter from my PhD advisor or Postdoc advisor?

I have better relations with my PhD advisor than my post-doc professor. Will it help if I get letter from the former?

thanks again to all you guys and "Happy New Year" to those in North America and Canada.
 

mpapdp.1984

Hero Member
Oct 27, 2009
271
6
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
NOC Code......
4121
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
13-11-2008
AOR Received.
18-03-2009
File Transfer...
27-10-2009
Med's Request
16-04-2010
Med's Done....
29-04-2010 (Reached Ottawa May 4 2010)
Interview........
waived
Can2009Applicant said:
Thank you all for the replies. Appreciate it.

mpapdp.1984, did you mean obtaining a letter from my PhD advisor or Postdoc advisor?

I have better relations with my PhD advisor than my post-doc professor. Will it help if I get letter from the former?

thanks again to all you guys and "Happy New Year" to those in North America and Canada.
I meant from your post-doc professor. He will be the one who will write the current employment letter. If you do not have a cooperative post-doc supervisor, try to see if you can get such a letter from your HR person. HR people from the department are usually very helpful and accomodative. Otherwise just have a honest conversation with your post-doc supervisor and see if he can help.
 

DesiMike

Star Member
Mar 29, 2009
74
2
I am wondering, under Pakistani education system which teaching jobs are eligible for NOC 4131(College and Other Vocational Instructors).
What I understand from the job description is that immigrant applicant must be teaching the students seeking diploma. Teachers teaching undergraduate degree/BA/BSc/BCS or HSCC/grade 12 are not elligible.

Please shed some light on this.