News on Maryam Monsef
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Many pro-Liberals media such as CBC are trying to divert the focus to her passport, making readers to believe she simply has inaccurate information on her passport and citizenship certificate and it's no big deal.
But the real issue actually is the misrepresentation when her mother made refugee claim back in 1996.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/refugees/inside/apply-who.asp
Your refugee claim may not be eligible for referral to the IRB if: You have been recognized as a Convention refugee by another country to which you can return.
Her family moved to Iran from Afghanistan during 80s and lived in Iran most of time until 1996. They had legal status as "involuntary migrants" (mohajerin) under Iranian rules in effect prior to 1992, gained automatic residency in Iran, and enjoyed benefits such as basic healthcare and work permits. Iranian officials effectively treated these registered Afghans as refugees. So this alone made them ineligible for refugee claim in Canada.
Monsef even admitted herself that her family was very safe in Iran. She was even born at a high end hospital in Iran. Her family never lived in refugee camp in Iran. They moved to Canada because of low economic and social prospects for Afghan migrants in Iran, NOT because of fearing persecution or being in danger.
Bottom line is, simply holding an Afghan passport does not entitle you to refugee status in Canada automatically. The actual circumstances are reviewed to decide whether you are a genuine refugee needing protection or simply economic migrant.
My guess is her mother didn't just simply lie about her birthplace, but even more to cover the fact that they were living in Iran sound and safely, otherwise it would not be possible to get refugee status granted in Canada. So their original refugee claim really needs to be investigated by an independent institution such as RCMP, not just by government departments such as IRCC or CBSA as Monsef herself is a government cabinet member.
But the real issue actually is the misrepresentation when her mother made refugee claim back in 1996.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/refugees/inside/apply-who.asp
Your refugee claim may not be eligible for referral to the IRB if: You have been recognized as a Convention refugee by another country to which you can return.
Her family moved to Iran from Afghanistan during 80s and lived in Iran most of time until 1996. They had legal status as "involuntary migrants" (mohajerin) under Iranian rules in effect prior to 1992, gained automatic residency in Iran, and enjoyed benefits such as basic healthcare and work permits. Iranian officials effectively treated these registered Afghans as refugees. So this alone made them ineligible for refugee claim in Canada.
Monsef even admitted herself that her family was very safe in Iran. She was even born at a high end hospital in Iran. Her family never lived in refugee camp in Iran. They moved to Canada because of low economic and social prospects for Afghan migrants in Iran, NOT because of fearing persecution or being in danger.
Bottom line is, simply holding an Afghan passport does not entitle you to refugee status in Canada automatically. The actual circumstances are reviewed to decide whether you are a genuine refugee needing protection or simply economic migrant.
My guess is her mother didn't just simply lie about her birthplace, but even more to cover the fact that they were living in Iran sound and safely, otherwise it would not be possible to get refugee status granted in Canada. So their original refugee claim really needs to be investigated by an independent institution such as RCMP, not just by government departments such as IRCC or CBSA as Monsef herself is a government cabinet member.
The decision rests in the hands of an impartial, highly-trained government employee, and not a political staffer. I have absolute confidence in them making the right decision, no matter what that is, without you piping in with your two cents and telling them how to do their job, or, alternatively, why you feel they're doing it wrong.
It is understood that her mother lied in the refugee app about the place of birth. I'm sure anyone with a reasonable unbiased mind will know that the Minister knew about bout this but chose not to reveal until media started asking questions. She knows she lied. People know she lied. You please don't waste time on this Minister anymore. Do the right thing by following the rules. In all honesty, a decent person would've resigned from his or her position but, this being a liar, don't expect honesty.
Take care of your situation and not bother about cheats and liars.
Take care of your situation and not bother about cheats and liars.
That's not how the revocation of citizenship works. It's a serious issue. It's not done through political deals behind closed doors. It's done by an unbiased non-partisan administrative decision maker. Stop making light of the situation. There aren't any "deals" when it comes to citizenship revocation. To suggest that political favours or deals can prevent one's citizenship from being stripped belittles what hundreds of others are going through. Please stop spreading misinformation.deerestlovelybear said:
to me, the fact that she doesn't qualify to be a refugee is more serious than the error in place of birth.
The first article suggests--quoting Lorne Waldman--that she could lose her citizenship and face deportation for making an unintentional mistake on a passport application. That seems like a stretch. A passport application is not a citizenship application and it seems that there would need to be an element of intent.
Unless you a member of the Immigration and Refugee Board, or a Secretary at Canadian Visa Office with all the evidence of her file before you at this very moment you have very little clout in your assessment of her credentials to be a refugee.mats said:
That is true, but anyone (even someone who is not a member of the IRB or an employee of a Visa Office) can tell that she misrepresented material facts. Normal civilians have had their citizenship revoked for less, and the same justice needs to apply to Monsef as well.Coffee1981 said: