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new rules about citizen

kuki

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Jan 30, 2015
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Hello,

I have a question about the new rules for the time, 4 of 6 years you will apply all or any of the newcomers......
 

PMM

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Hi


kuki said:
Hello,

I have a question about the new rules for the time, 4 of 6 years you will apply all or any of the newcomers......
1. Everyone when the date is proclaimed.
 

surgi

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Feb 20, 2014
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Why shame? And what should not be so?
you know I came from underdeveloped country. There is no much respect of human rights or any care of citizens. The role which they apply a new law they never apply it on mid-stream on people who started a process. When we landed for the first time in Canada we considered that we started already the process of Canadian Citizenship. We started to count the days of our physical presence in Canada depending on the role 3/4 years or 1095 days in 1460 days. Imagine a Candidate who will be eligible one week or 2 weeks after the effective date of application of this role. Imagine too they have their own plans for example to apply for certain jobs or to travel to some places which is difficult to go with their own passport or to have a chance to work across the border...etc. What are their feelings? Is it fair after counting 1080 days for example to say you have you have to stay more 380 days??? But those who landed after June 2014 they know well that the law changed so they will have different plans of their lives. Some of them of this new law is not suitable for them they may cancell Immigration plans from the start. Here too I can not give advantages to those have passed 1094 days under the old role and those who landed one or tow days before Bill C24 become a law. I think it is unfair,unfair ,unfair. Do not change laws mid-stream on people you make them suffer.
 

ttrajan

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It will affect only those who want to leave canada after getting citizenship. It won,t affect those who want to stay here permanently.
 

Martin29

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Feb 24, 2015
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If a Canadian citizen should live only in Canada then such a citizenship is a curse than a boon.Are we in jail?
 

oren

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Not all PR holder wants to be a citizen. Some just stay as PR forever. Getting citizenship is a personal choice. It took me a while to make up my mind to apply and when I did that's when they made the fees $400. Then I thought I'll wait til they improve their service (1yr processing instead of 2-3yrs) since I'm paying $400. Then 2015 came, I didn't even know it went up again lol! Thinking it might go more I decided to apply. Also I didn't know this new bill, only found out this week when I stumbled upon this forum. I know sucks specially for those people how are almost qualified this year but sadly law is law.
 

era1521

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surgi said:
you know I came from underdeveloped country. There is no much respect of human rights or any care of citizens. The role which they apply a new law they never apply it on mid-stream on people who started a process. When we landed for the first time in Canada we considered that we started already the process of Canadian Citizenship. We started to count the days of our physical presence in Canada depending on the role 3/4 years or 1095 days in 1460 days. Imagine a Candidate who will be eligible one week or 2 weeks after the effective date of application of this role. Imagine too they have their own plans for example to apply for certain jobs or to travel to some places which is difficult to go with their own passport or to have a chance to work across the border...etc. What are their feelings? Is it fair after counting 1080 days for example to say you have you have to stay more 380 days??? But those who landed after June 2014 they know well that the law changed so they will have different plans of their lives. Some of them of this new law is not suitable for them they may cancell Immigration plans from the start. Here too I can not give advantages to those have passed 1094 days under the old role and those who landed one or tow days before Bill C24 become a law. I think it is unfair,unfair ,unfair. Do not change laws mid-stream on people you make them suffer.
Why would you suffer from this? It is assumed when you immigrate you come here to live and die and have nice headstone on the Canadian soil.
Not being able to travel down south for some sunshine for one more year is just nothing. When you were living back in your home country, you were in same rush all of the sudden to get to be a tourist?

Common, the truth is most of these anxious people of having to wait one more year are persons immigrating here or residing here only for passport in the first place.
I have nothing against to anyone living here and coming at one point across an opportunity to work somewhere else; everybody is free to live the life. I only despise this hypocrisy of wining against a law for no reason and quoting big words like "right of"... "freedom of"... "human rights"- lately.
 

jrjayl

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surgi said:
you know I came from underdeveloped country. There is no much respect of human rights or any care of citizens. The role which they apply a new law they never apply it on mid-stream on people who started a process. When we landed for the first time in Canada we considered that we started already the process of Canadian Citizenship. We started to count the days of our physical presence in Canada depending on the role 3/4 years or 1095 days in 1460 days. Imagine a Candidate who will be eligible one week or 2 weeks after the effective date of application of this role. Imagine too they have their own plans for example to apply for certain jobs or to travel to some places which is difficult to go with their own passport or to have a chance to work across the border...etc. What are their feelings? Is it fair after counting 1080 days for example to say you have you have to stay more 380 days??? But those who landed after June 2014 they know well that the law changed so they will have different plans of their lives. Some of them of this new law is not suitable for them they may cancell Immigration plans from the start. Here too I can not give advantages to those have passed 1094 days under the old role and those who landed one or tow days before Bill C24 become a law. I think it is unfair,unfair ,unfair. Do not change laws mid-stream on people you make them suffer.
I can only agree with the part that, for some people, waiting to become a citizen is a big step in the integration process and being able to vote and calling themselves Canadians does make a difference.

However, I strongly disagree with the usage of the word "suffer".
 

surgi

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for those who do not agree with the word (suffer). Just look at the forum and see how many people suffer just waiting for weeks and months for application . Even between those who do not agree how they were very anxious about the pathway of their file.
Nevertheless, I have a question for them and please reply.

Imagine yourself as a student of a 3 years college and at the end of these 3 years you will be offered a Bachelor degree. Just 2 weeks before graduation you and your colleagues received a letter from the college which says that you will not be graduated after 2 weeks as they decided to stay one more year. In this year you will do the same subjects you did before and receive the same Bachelor degree.
The question is

What would be your feelings?
 

MUFC

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There is no definite deadline for CIC to follow as of when they are obliged to finish with the processing of an application.

That according to me is much bigger problem for those who need the citizenship faster for different reasons.

Just one RQ along the way and it's devastating for short term plans.
 

era1521

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surgi said:
for those who do not agree with the word (suffer). Just look at the forum and see how many people suffer just waiting for weeks and months for application . Even between those who do not agree how they were very anxious about the pathway of their file.
Nevertheless, I have a question for them and please reply.

Imagine yourself as a student of a 3 years college and at the end of these 3 years you will be offered a Bachelor degree. Just 2 weeks before graduation you and your colleagues received a letter from the college which says that you will not be graduated after 2 weeks as they decided to stay one more year. In this year you will do the same subjects you did before and receive the same Bachelor degree.
The question is

What would be your feelings?
There is a logical fracture here; your example with College has nothing close to the citizenship application. First of all, when the law will come into effect it will impact only new applications going forward, and applications already In Process will follow the old rule.
Beside that the college graduation is a totally different process.
You have the right to apply for citizenship (when meet the requirements), but granting citizenship is a privilege not a right. Keep this in mind and you'll not get hurt feelings anymore.