Need help on FSTC

[vital_parsley]

Hi,

I would like to know what does it mean in FSTC when they say :
"certificate of qualification from a province or territory to ensure that applicants are “job ready” upon arrival"

Does it mean I can have a certificate course done from an institute which issues ,certificates authorized from Canadian Government ? ???

 

[cocknbull]

Please go through the following link

http://thebushrajr.blogspot.com/2012/12/canada-visa-updates-certificate-of.html


Certificate of Qualification - Federal Skilled Trade Class

Interested to live and work in Canada via Federal Skilled Trade Class? The first requirement is you must have an offer of employment in Canada or a certificate of qualification from a province or territory to ensure that applicants are "job ready" upon arrival.

Arguably, it is easier to get a Certificate of Qualification than to get an offer of employment. And with a Certificate of Qualification, it would be easier to get an employment offer. Thus, this Federal Skilled Trade Class program is highly dependent on getting your skills and experience recognized in Canada.

Now, the question is this: How to get a Certificate of Qualification?

First, you need to decide which province you want to settle in. Once decided, then check your options on how to get your skills and experience certified.

To make it easy for you, just click the link below for each province's apprenticeship programs and details how to get Certificate of Qualifications:

Alberta - Apprenticeship and Industry Training
http://tradesecrets.alberta.ca/

British Columbia - Industry Training Authority
http://www.itabc.ca/

Manitoba -Entrepreneurship, Training and Trade
http://www.gov.mb.ca/tce/apprent/index.html


New Brunswick - Post-Secondary Education, Training and Labor
http://www2.gnb.ca/content/gnb/en/departments/post-secondary_education_training_and_labour.html

Newfoundland and Labrador - Apprenticeship & Trades Certification Division
http://www.ed.gov.nl.ca/app/


Northwest Territories - Education, Culture and Employment
http://www.ece.gov.nt.ca/


Nova Scotia - Apprenticeship Training Division
http://nsapprenticeship.ca/

Nunavut - Training and Apprenticeship Opportunities
http://nni.gov.nu.ca/taopportunities

Ontario - Employment Ontario
http://www.tcu.gov.on.ca/eng/employmentontario/training/


Prince Edward Island - Apprenticeship, Training, and Certification
http://www.apprenticeship.pe.ca/


Québec - Skills and Vocational Qualification
http://emploiquebec.net/guide_qualif/certification-interprovinciale/index.asp


Saskatchewan - Apprenticeship and Trade Certification Commission
http://www.saskapprenticeship.ca/

Yukon - Department of Education
http://www.education.gov.yk.ca/


By visting the website of instiutions with jurisdiction to your trade, you will have an idea how to process it.

 

[cocknbull]

This link is also helpful

http://www.settlement.org/sys/faqs_detail.asp?faq_id=4001104

How do I get a Certificate of Qualification?

You need a Certificate of Qualification to work in some trades in Ontario. Each trade has different certification requirements.

Depending on the trade, you might need a 2-5 year apprenticeship (training), proof of equivalent work experience and/or take a test.
You can find out how to get a certificate in a particular trade at your local apprenticeship office. At that office, you can make an appointment with a Training Consultant.
The training consultant may ask you to bring the following documents to your first meeting:
Your Social Insurance Number (SIN)
Letters from current or past employers, dated and written on company letterhead, showing the company name and address, the exact dates of your employment, the number of hours that you worked, your title, and a complete description of your job duties. If you cannot get a letter, prepare a statutory declaration. A statutory declaration is an official document in which you declare in writing certain facts to be true. It must be notarized by a notary public. A statutory declaration for qualifications assessment purposes should state the dates of employment, job title, and job description.
Trade certificates, diplomas, or licences.
Official school transcripts from your training, if available. You should also provide a detailed list of the subjects covered in each course and the length of each course. If these documents are not in English or French, bring a translation that is signed by a notary public or a lawyer.
If your documents are not in English or French, you must get them translated and signed by an official translator who has seen the originals. For assistance, contact the Association of Translators and Interpreters of Ontario (ATIO) at 1-800-234-5030.
The training consultant will use these documents to compare your work experience to the requirements for certification in your trade in Ontario:
If the training consultant decides that your experience is the same as the experience required of an apprentice in Ontario, you can write the Certificate of Qualification exam without an apprenticeship. Then, you will complete an application for the Certificate of Qualification.
If the training consultant decides that your documented experience is not the same as an apprenticeship in Ontario, you will need more training and work experience as a tradesperson. You will need to find an employer who will agree to enter into an apprenticeship agreement with you. Or you might decide to take a tradesperson course that includes on-the-job training and an apprenticeship agreement. The training consultant does not help you to find these employers.
If your qualifications are sufficient, the Ministry of Training, Colleges and Universities will issue a temporary licence. These licences are valid for 90 days until you pass the written Certificate of Qualification exam. To pass the written exam, you need a mark of 70% or higher.
We recommend that you contact a settlement agency in your area to help you before you visit the apprenticeship office. Proving that you have the necessary experience in your trade is not easy. There are agencies that can help you to ensure that you are fully prepared for a meeting with a training consultant.
Find a settlement agency or employment help program in Services Near Me.

 

[vital_parsley]

I have a certificate course done in Diploma in Advanced Software Engineering of 09 months ,which is recognized by the Govt. of Ontario ,Canada government.Could that be used as a Certificate of Qualification ?

 

[cocknbull]

I have a certificate course done in Diploma in Advanced Software Engineering of 09 months ,which is recognized by the Govt. of Ontario ,Canada government.Could that be used as a Certificate of Qualification ?

Hi!

I think no. Here we are talking about "Skilled trades" and you need a certificate of qualification in a skilled trade like Electrician, Mechanic, Plumber etc. Have you ever worked in any skilled trade?

Moreover as far as I researched you need to be in Canada to get this certificate and pass an exam.

This is the maximum I know. I hope some one can shed more light on this subject.

On web I found this website

http://thebushrajr.blogspot.com/2012/12/canada-visa-updates-certificate-of.html

and they are advertising

"If you have at least two years work experience and related training in the following areas, you may be eligible to file an application under the proposed Federal Skilled Trades Class (FSTC):"


Industrial, Electrical and Construction Trades;
Maintenance and Equipment Operation Trades;
Supervisors and Technical Occupations in Natural Resources, Agriculture and Related Production;
Processing, Manufacturing and Utilities Supervisors and Central Control Operators;
Chefs and Cooks
Bakers and Butchers.


Their email is aapuntar @ go2canada.com

These people are from Philipines and I don't know how will these people get a certificate of qualification for some one who is not in Canada and also there is no guarantee if they are genuine people or fraud.
Please be careful.

 

[vital_parsley]

Thanks for the reply.
Ya..I went through the websites you have posted.I thought the same..I just wanted to confirm.May be I clould add that certificate in the FSWP when I apply.

 

[Immigrant13]

There is good news for intending international applicants for the FSTP - You do not need a Canadian origin Certificate of Qualification! See the checklist on the CIC website for FSTP documents requirement list and scroll down to were it talks about qualifications. A little digging does miracles! I am ready to apply!

 

[cocknbull]

There is good news for intending international applicants for the FSTP - You do not need a Canadian origin Certificate of Qualification! See the checklist on the CIC website for FSTP documents requirement list and scroll down to were it talks about qualifications. A little digging does miracles! I am ready to apply!

Hi!

Well dear I think you have misunderstood this. I checked what you are saying and if you go to No.10 of this document checklist

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/forms/IMM5750E.pdf

it says

For applications with a Certificate of Qualification

You must provide a certified copy of your certificate of qualification in the skilled trade occupation identified in your application. The certificate of qualification must have been issued by a Canadian provincial/territorial authority responsible for apprenticeship education, training and certification.


Contact information for provincial/territorial authorities is available on red seal program website at

http://www.red-seal.ca/c.4nt.1cts @ -eng.jsp?


The above means you do need a certificate of qualification issued by Canadian Provincial/territorial authority that means only Canadian origin certificate of qualification is accepted.

Thanks

 

[Immigrant13]

Pls go down d page where an example is given of someone applying from d UK. How do we reconcile this? I wait to see d first applications and the outcome. It seems clearly unreasonable to expect non-Canadians to get certification from inside Canada.

 

[cocknbull]

Pls go down d page where an example is given of someone applying from d UK. How do we reconcile this? I wait to see d first applications and the outcome. It seems clearly unreasonable to expect non-Canadians to get certification from inside Canada.

Hi again!

I went down the page as you said and looked at the examples. Well these examples refer to your past work experience and it has nothing to do with Certificate of Qualification to be obtained from Canadian provincial or territorial authority. In simple words these examples merely indicate that the work experience you gained in past was according to the standard requirements of that region/country for example if you had worked in UK before in any skilled trade you should have obtained necessary certification before started working in UK in skilled trade. Similarly if you had worked in skilled trade in any province of Canada before you had to take the necessary certification before started working in that trade.

Conclusion. Certificate of Qualification is must and it has to obtained from Canadian provincial / territorial authority.

Note. The above is solely my opinion and others may differ. Thanks

 

[qasim786]

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[cocknbull]

Dear All!

I have a break through here. Finally I have found how to get Certificate of qualification from Canadian provincial/territorial body if you are outside of Canada. It seems near to impossible but one can still try.

here is the link

http://www.cicic.ca/413/assessment-of-credentials-for-employment-in-canada.canada#3

3. If I want to work in a regulated occupation, what can I do to get my qualifications assessed and recognized?

Find out the name and address of the professional regulatory body governing your profession/trade in the province or territory where you intend to settle by enquiring with CICIC.
Write to the regulatory body and ask about the specific requirements and costs for licensing, certification, or registration, as well as the recommended procedure for an assessment. The regulatory body will advise you concerning the required documentation and the fees for assessment.




I summarise the above. It says to check if you can get a certificate of qualification in your trade from a Canadian provincial/territorial body when you are outside of Canada, you need to contact the regulatory body and ask about the specific requirements and costs for licensing, certification, or registration, as well as the recommended procedure for an assessment

for example

if some one is plumber from UK

he will go to this link

http://www.cicic.ca/403/occupational-profiles-for-selected-trades-and-professions.canada

then put plumber here

click search

then click plumbers 7251

http://www.cicic.ca/684/Plumbers.canada?noc=7251

then

http://www.cicic.ca/684/Plumbers.canada?noc=7251#list

Trade certification can be either compulsory or voluntary. To practice in trades where certification is compulsory, workers must generally be certified or registered as apprentices. In trades where certification is voluntary, certification and apprenticeship are often used to indicate the level of competency of the holder, but workers are not required to be registered or certified in order to practice. Red Seal Certification itself is never mandatory, except where indicated as such by jurisdictions in specific legislation. Once you know where you will settle and work in Canada, you should contact the appropriate provincial/territorial office (see list below) for further information about licensing or certification.

and if you want to settle for example in Alberta you need to email

aitinfo @ gov.ab.ca

and ask them if they can accept your foreign qualifications and work experience as plumber and issue you a certificate of qualification without passing a exam and not being present in Canada

Alberta - Apprenticeship and Industry Training
7th Floor, Commerce Place, 10155 -102 Street
Edmonton AB T5J 4L5 Canada
Phone : (780) 427-8765
Fax : (780) 422-7376
Email : aitinfo @ gov.ab.ca


The above seems impossible but you can still contact and ask if any chance. Thanks