Native English speakers please help

[Calgary2014]

If you need a police certificate from a country or territory and:

are currently living there, or received the police certificate before leaving, the police certificate must be issued within six months before you apply.
have lived there in the past, the police certificate must be issued after you last lived in that country or territory.

My understanding from the last sentence is : after the last time the applicant was resident of that country. Otherwise they could've used "after the last time you visited that country or territory" Am I wrong?
For example I became resident of Canada in 2011. Since then I've visited my home country once. I didn't live there after 2011, rather I just visited there for 1 month. Please correct me if I'm wrong

 

[paulard]

I believe you "lived" there for that 1 month you "visited". As far as I know, if you are not a resident of that country, they will compare the date of the PCC with the dates you provide in the travel history. Otherwise, the rule does not make sense.

 

[paulard]

For instance, I'd never been resident in US, but if I spent more than 180 days "visiting" the country, I need to provide PCC, issued after the last time I've been there.

 

[Calgary2014]

If I had visited my home country for a total of 6 months after last time lived there, you would be right.
If I'm wrong the rule doesn't make sense. I give you an example.
Case 1: I'm leaving in my home country and have PCC issued in Aug 2016. That is still acceptable for IRCC and I can submit that with my application, even though I have lived in my home country for 5 months after getting the PCC
Case 2: I am resident of Canada and visited my country last January for two weeks and I got the PCC 1 week before leaving for Canada. My PCC is not acceptable for IRCC even though I was there only 7 days after getting that PCC.
That doesn't make sense at all

I believe you "lived" there for that 1 month you "visited". As far as I know, if you are not a resident of that country, they will compare the date of the PCC with the dates you provide in the travel history. Otherwise, the rule does not make sense.

 

[paulard]

If I had visited my home country for a total of 6 months after last time lived there, you would be right.
If I'm wrong the rule doesn't make sense. I give you an example.
Case 1: I'm leaving in my home country and have PCC issued in Aug 2016. That is still acceptable for IRCC and I can submit that with my application, even though I have lived in my home country for 5 months after getting the PCC
Case 2: I am resident of Canada and visited my country last January for two weeks and I got the PCC 1 week before leaving for Canada. My PCC is not acceptable for IRCC even though I was there only 7 days after getting that PCC.
That doesn't make sense at all

I understand what you are saying, but as far as I understand, the rule is, for the country you actually live, it is valid for 6 months. So, you live in Canada, and for that you don't need PCC, unless asked. Other countries you lived or visit for more than 180 days (not necessarily in a row - 6 months to years, doesn't matter) you need PCC after your last visit. Since you are not resident in your home country anymore, you fall in the second rule.

I wouldn't risk. But as dan_and said, it is your call. Even you get an interpretation from a native speaker, it won't matter, the risk still exists.

 

[Calgary2014]

I understand what you are saying, but as far as I understand, the rule is, for the country you actually live, it is valid for 6 months. So, you live in Canada, and for that you don't need PCC, unless asked. Other countries you lived or visit for more than 180 days (not necessarily in a row - 6 months to years, doesn't matter) you need PCC after your last visit. Since you are not resident in your home country anymore, you fall in the second rule.

I wouldn't risk. But as dan_and said, it is your call. Even you get an interpretation from a native speaker, it won't matter, the risk still exists.

Thanks guys. I wouldn't risk if it wasn't a very big hassle to get one. I don't even know how I can get a new ,,PCC in less than 90 days as the interests section of my country in the usa says it may take up to 8 months to issue a PCC

 

[Pippin]

Thanks guys. I wouldn't risk if it wasn't a very big hassle to get one. I don't even know how I can get a new ,,PCC in less than 90 days as the interests section of my country in the usa says it may take up to 8 months to issue a PCC

Perhaps it would be good insurance to apply and keep all documentary proof that you did so immediately after ITA to allow the maximum time to get the PCC. I am not an expert, but I think any country you have been in for more than six months and have been back to, even to visit, requires a PCC that is less than 6 months old at time of application or must have been issued AFTER you left the most recent time. I can understand you are anxious not to slow down your application process by having to wait for the PCC. Good luck.

 

[Calgary2014]

Perhaps it would be good insurance to apply and keep all documentary proof that you did so immediately after ITA to allow the maximum time to get the PCC. I am not an expert, but I think any country you have been in for more than six months and have been back to, even to visit, requires a PCC that is less than 6 months old at time of application or must have been issued AFTER you left the most recent time. I can understand you are anxious not to slow down your application process by having to wait for the PCC. Good luck.

Thanks, even if I wanna apply through the interests section of my country in the USA, unfortunately there is no way to proof that I've applied for something as I will have to mail them my fingerprints along with other required documents

 

[jes_ON]

unfortunately there is no way to proof that I've applied for something as I will have to mail them my fingerprints along with other required documents

??? Of course there is. Photocopy / scan everything associated with the application, send using courier / proof of delivery. Save all copies of emails/ correspondence, take notes / log all telephone calls.

Maybe it's not "proof" in the strictest sense, but it is a body of evidence.

 

[Calgary2014]

??? Of course there is. Photocopy / scan everything associated with the application, send using courier / proof of delivery. Save all copies of emails/ correspondence, take notes / log all telephone calls.

Maybe it's not "proof" in the strictest sense, but it is a body of evidence.

thanks, you're right. will do that. What's you're interpretation about the first post of this topic?

 

[Calgary2014]

Any other thoughts on this?

 

[vensak]

I would advice following:
1. If you are waiting for a PCC from some country where it takes long to get it, try first to wait during that 90 days period after ITA if you will not get it in time. If it will be still pending. Upload what you have on hand (your application for it and correspondence, where you were trying to get it sooner.). Add there the LOE, that you are doing all you can in order to get it.
2. If you are still in pre ITA phase, but you estimate, that you will get it soon, you can go after such PCC as well (that way you will use the waiting time).
3. Do not forget that older PCC are still 6 months valid after they were issued. (for example if your PCC was issued in November 2016, but you visited that country again in December 2016, that PCC is still valid until April 2017).

 

[Calgary2014]

Thanks guys.

 

[xpressentry]

If you need a police certificate from a country or territory and:

are currently living there, or received the police certificate before leaving, the police certificate must be issued within six months before you apply.
have lived there in the past, the police certificate must be issued after you last lived in that country or territory.

My understanding from the last sentence is : after the last time the applicant was resident of that country. Otherwise they could've used "after the last time you visited that country or territory" Am I wrong?
For example I became resident of Canada in 2011. Since then I've visited my home country once. I didn't live there after 2011, rather I just visited there for 1 month. Please correct me if I'm wrong

Why do you seek help from native English speakers only?

 

[Calgary2014]

Why do you seek help from native English speakers only?

I though their reading comprehension might be better. Any help from anybody is appreciated