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My husband from Nigeria was declined his PR - Reason was not true.

jeonwualu

Newbie
Jul 4, 2010
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Edmonton, AB
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Accra
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Teac
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Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
10/09/2010
Interview........
02/01/2011
Passport Req..
My husband was denied although we have not received a letter stating that. We were told that there was no question about the genuineness of our relationship with so many supporting documents. He was declined because the officer said that my husband had to be 35 to adopt his son in Nigeria but he has to be 25 and the officer knew that.
My husband from Nigeria was denied because he was told that he had to be at least 35 to adopt his son in Nigeria yet we told the officer that it wasn't true. The minimum age is 35. We both were interviewed (I would call it more of a lecture and not an interview) separately and we both we told that he would not question our relationship because it is so clear that it is genuine with the volume of supporting documentation. I think there has to be a decline immediately when it comes to a man or woman coming here from Nigeria. I was very naive about immigration before I met my wonderful husband and I didn't think it was any big deal but it really is a big deal. We are both very sad and wonder why Canada feels this way towards Nigerians. Everyone worries about proving the relationship is genuine and we had no problem because it really is genuine. We look similar age but we have an age difference and I think the officer didn't like that. He seemed frustrated with me for spending any $ on my husband. Any suggestions now from all you experienced Canadians or Albertans?
 

fleo

Star Member
Nov 27, 2010
164
10
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Vegreville
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App. Filed.......
24-01-2011
Med's Done....
23-12-2010
I'm sorry to hear that, jeonwualu :( On a brighter note, if that was truly VO's only/strongest reason for denial you'll stand a very good chance in the appeal. Don't give up hope :)

A number of members here have both personal and professional experience with Accra office, you're in for some good advice. (But on a purely theoretical level, it confuses me to no end that stories like yours keep happening. How and why are officers like this one allowed to work in a sensitive area towards which they are so obviously prejudiced? [Yes, I'm jumping to conclusions and no, I don't personally know any visa officers and yes, for all I know they may be acting on government orders and it's not their fault. I don't care, it still angers me.])

Best of luck to you both!
 

boasorte

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Aug 3, 2010
532
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CIC Halifax
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jeonwualu said:
My husband from Nigeria was denied because he was told that he had to be at least 35 to adopt his son in Nigeria yet we told the officer that it wasn't true. The minimum age is 35. We both were interviewed (I would call it more of a lecture and not an interview) separately and we both we told that he would not question our relationship because it is so clear that it is genuine with the volume of supporting documentation. I think there has to be a decline immediately when it comes to a man or woman coming here from Nigeria. I was very naive about immigration before I met my wonderful husband and I didn't think it was any big deal but it really is a big deal. We are both very sad and wonder why Canada feels this way towards Nigerians. Everyone worries about proving the relationship is genuine and we had no problem because it really is genuine. We look similar age but we have an age difference and I think the officer didn't like that. He seemed frustrated with me for spending any $ on my husband. Any suggestions now from all you experienced Canadians or Albertans?

If I may ask you, what's the age difference between you and your husband?
 

canadianwoman

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Nov 6, 2009
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Accra, Ghana
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30-01-2008
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05-05-2009
jeonwualu said:
My husband from Nigeria was denied because he was told that he had to be at least 35 to adopt his son in Nigeria yet we told the officer that it wasn't true. The minimum age is 35. We both were interviewed (I would call it more of a lecture and not an interview) separately and we both we told that he would not question our relationship because it is so clear that it is genuine with the volume of supporting documentation. I think there has to be a decline immediately when it comes to a man or woman coming here from Nigeria. I was very naive about immigration before I met my wonderful husband and I didn't think it was any big deal but it really is a big deal. We are both very sad and wonder why Canada feels this way towards Nigerians. Everyone worries about proving the relationship is genuine and we had no problem because it really is genuine. We look similar age but we have an age difference and I think the officer didn't like that. He seemed frustrated with me for spending any $ on my husband. Any suggestions now from all you experienced Canadians or Albertans?
If you can get official government proof that the minimum age for adopting a child is 25 in Nigeria, you should be able to win on appeal.
Who was the visa officer? Karen Salloum, perhaps?
Try contacting your MP and complaining. Olivia Chow is the official NDP critic for immigration - informing her of your story may help as well.
 

rjessome

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Feb 24, 2009
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You could also write directly to the Program Manager and request a reconsideration. Do it now.
 

suezy

Member
Feb 4, 2011
19
1
barbados
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i know your pain i was also to denied because they tought my marriage was not real you need to fight i am fighting it seems like forever but dont give up hope and i have a canadian child and they did not consider that. good luck
 

suezy

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Feb 4, 2011
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barbados
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my officer was miss lisa farr she like she had some thing against me being a manager at a fast food restaurant , she torture me with questions and i know from all the questions she was going to fail me and i am from barbados , she did not even consider i up hold the law i worked and pay taxes i love my family none of that matter to her she just failed me and told me to leave in a month i was devasated to see a woman like me putting a canadian born child out of its owe country.so i wish you all the best of luck , GOD BE WITH YOU BYE
 
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jdwhite21

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Jeonwualu:

My it seems Albertans seem to be having bad luck... as we too were denied. I don't really have any suggestions other than to just fight, do whatever you can. Fortunately being outland you can appeal, good luck and keep us updated. Or as canadianwoman suggested try contacted your mp. We contacted ours and they did a great deal of pushing for us but in the end they were told the decision was made, perhaps yours will have better luck.

Suezy:
Where was your office? What reasons did they give you guys for not being real (that's also what we were told). I just don't understand how families with children involved get denied. We have a daughter and another daughter to be born in April, if that's not proof what is? I am very sorry to here that you have to return to Barbados. Take care and good luck.
 

sven48ca

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Oct 12, 2010
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hello jeonwualu. i know that you must feel that the reason that your husband was denied was because he was from Nigeria. my wife felt the same way, only she believed that it was because she was from China. there is a real problem. the problem is not with us, the applicants. we have done nothing wrong. the IO found a dozen reasons to deny the visa. most of them were wrong. in the CAIPS notes it is clear that my wife answered the questions correctly. all we can do is file for the appeal. all we can do is focus on the reasons stated in the denial letter. as applicants we carry the burden of proof. it will be our job to show that the reasons given in the denial letter were incorrect and arbitrary. it will be our job to collect and give evidence to support the reality of the marriage and the genuine nature of the relationship. immigration is not a humane endeavor. they can not see love. they need to see phone records, receipts, pictures, and testimony.

try to not fall into the same trap that i fell into. i have spent the last two years feeling hurt and angry and telling all my friends how stupid immigration was being and how unnecessary and cruel they were being. none of that has helped me one little bit. now i am preparing the file to present for the appeal hearing. i tried to say that immigration was making me sick. i was allowing myself to become sick and indulging in crying 'poor me'. i was indignant at their unfair treatment of my wife because she was a foreign national and easy prey to their manipulations. immigration has hidden motives for denying our applications. they do not have to, nor will they ever share these hidden motives. spend your time loving your husband. that will make you stronger. your love will make him stronger too. the people on the board have discussed everything. read and listen to their stories. i have developed a great admiration and knowledge from these posts. read all the advice and consider each point.

you will feel alone and helpless, but you are not.
 

oceans_end

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Dec 16, 2009
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sven48ca said:
hello jeonwualu. i know that you must feel that the reason that your husband was denied was because he was from Nigeria. my wife felt the same way, only she believed that it was because she was from China. there is a real problem. the problem is not with us, the applicants. we have done nothing wrong. the IO found a dozen reasons to deny the visa. most of them were wrong. in the CAIPS notes it is clear that my wife answered the questions correctly. all we can do is file for the appeal. all we can do is focus on the reasons stated in the denial letter. as applicants we carry the burden of proof. it will be our job to show that the reasons given in the denial letter were incorrect and arbitrary. it will be our job to collect and give evidence to support the reality of the marriage and the genuine nature of the relationship. immigration is not a humane endeavor. they can not see love. they need to see phone records, receipts, pictures, and testimony.

try to not fall into the same trap that i fell into. i have spent the last two years feeling hurt and angry and telling all my friends how stupid immigration was being and how unnecessary and cruel they were being. none of that has helped me one little bit. now i am preparing the file to present for the appeal hearing. i tried to say that immigration was making me sick. i was allowing myself to become sick and indulging in crying 'poor me'. i was indignant at their unfair treatment of my wife because she was a foreign national and easy prey to their manipulations. immigration has hidden motives for denying our applications. they do not have to, nor will they ever share these hidden motives. spend your time loving your husband. that will make you stronger. your love will make him stronger too. the people on the board have discussed everything. read and listen to their stories. i have developed a great admiration and knowledge from these posts. read all the advice and consider each point.

you will feel alone and helpless, but you are not.
are you joking?
Nigeria getting discriminated maybe, China? you gotta be kidding, if the IO had "dozens" of reasons and only some of them were wrong according to you, that means they still had ground to decline, heck they can decline a visa according to one wrong answer.

"unfair treatment of my wife because she was a foreign national and easy prey to their manipulations"
are you joking again? if everyone on this board is not a foreign national we wouldn't need this board at all.

not trying to sound negative, but it sounds like a speeder complaining about the cops after getting caught.
 

sven48ca

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Oct 12, 2010
5
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i hear you oceans_end. my complaint was because there was no speeding. if it is illegal to get married quickly i would like to see that wriiten into the constitiution. there was no warning that this is illegal. we applied in a straightforward and honest manner without subterfuge or nefarious intent. i will say that she did get two questions wrong. as you say, one question wrong is enough to deny a visa. this is my complaint. my wife getting my sons age wrong and the identity of his birth mother wrong has little relation to her being genuine with her affections. my complaint is how they gleefully and blithely ignored the evidence we produced and the testimony we gave. in the court that you mention, the regular courts, we would see the radar gun report with our vehicle going over the speed limit or we would hear the officers testimony that he followed us and clocked our behavior with his speedometer...

if i had been speeding as the officer suggested i would already have acknowleged my lapse and the fine would already be paid. there would be no court proceedings at all. instead i am forced to prove a negative. my complaint is about the nature of these red flag concerns. i believe that decisions should be made in accord with our behavior, in accord with the evidence and the testimony that we provide, not based solely in the IO's red flag concerns. i will have a chance at this with the appeal hearing. i am preparing for the appeal hearing.

thank you for replying. with my reply i was responding to jeonwuala stating of her question that their relationship, because it is so clear that it is genuine with the volume of supporting documentation, was denied. foreign nationals have no protection, at all, under the law. even a fair and honest evaluation of their testimony is not to be given with the present process. we need changes. with the process. maybe we want to vote for more money or more and better trained officers. maybe we want clear and fair evaluations with clear and fair expectations outlined. i do not know what we want, all i know is that we will see another election and none of our own concerns are on the ticket or even mentioned.
 

suezy

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Feb 4, 2011
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barbados
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read my post suezy it explains everything i went throw in canada . i got one person honeybee2 who was so insensitive to my post it made me cry the same time i read her response to my letter and believe it she is a woman . she off all people should get how i feel about the whole ordeal i went through. but she can not stop me from seeking help for me and my family ,the IO just see you judge you and do not know whats in your heart or relationship . if they feel you dont deserve to live in canada you do get approve , they dont consider you got kids that born in canada that you got to root up from their country to live in another .so i wish you all the luck fight for what you beleve is right get all the help you can get cause only one person have us to judge and that is GOD and if he is on your side no one can be against you so my friend do what is neccesary for you and your family .GOOD LUCK