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21685

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To maintain PR status one has to stay 730 days i.e., 2 years in 5 years time. If a PR stay 6 months in Canada and 6 months outside Canada
in every year will there be any problem while entering Canada by the immigration department and what reasons will be a good excuse to a person doing 6 months in and 6 months out. Please throw some light on this Seniors.
 

Rob_TO

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21685 said:
To maintain PR status one has to stay 730 days i.e., 2 years in 5 years time. If a PR stay 6 months in Canada and 6 months outside Canada
in every year will there be any problem while entering Canada by the immigration department and what reasons will be a good excuse to a person doing 6 months in and 6 months out. Please throw some light on this Seniors.
That would be spending 2.5 years of every 5 in Canada, so would be no problem with residency obligation. No excuse should be needed.
 

21685

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Thanks Rob for your instant reply. Will the immigration officer at airport ask the reason for staying out 6 months.
 

ttrajan

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No. Where you are working now?
 

Bs65

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21685 said:
No work, simply sitting monthly getting EI
may need to read here then if planning to spend any time out the country http://www.esdc.gc.ca/en/reports/ei/digest/ch_10/absence_from_home.page#a10_12_8
 

21685

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See I will not take any benefit during my absence from Canada. I just want to maintain balance between home country and Canada because parents, other close relatives and friends are back home and wife children daughter in laws and grand children are here in Canada.
 

ttrajan

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If you are outside then you may not get EI? Inside also for max 10 months you will get EI?
 

torontosm

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21685 said:
See I will not take any benefit during my absence from Canada. I just want to maintain balance between home country and Canada because parents, other close relatives and friends are back home and wife children daughter in laws and grand children are here in Canada.
Sure, from a residency obligation perspective, you will be fine by spending 6 months in/6 months out of the country. However, your EI will stop.
 

Bs65

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Minor point but when approaching the time that PR card is due to expire plan to be in country as will make things easier to renew rather then messing around with PRTD outside country.
 

21685

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My EI is going to end in 2 months so no problem. After that I will leave Canada during winters and come back in summer so like this I may also escape from snow. Thank you all seniors for sharing your views.
 

21685

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Thanks to those who have responded but where is Leon, scylla, PMM and dpenabill.........still waiting for their views...
 

dpenabill

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21685 said:
To maintain PR status one has to stay 730 days i.e., 2 years in 5 years time. If a PR stay 6 months in Canada and 6 months outside Canada
in every year will there be any problem while entering Canada by the immigration department and what reasons will be a good excuse to a person doing 6 months in and 6 months out. Please throw some light on this Seniors.
Half-time in Canada, half-time outside Canada, meets the PR Residency Obligation.

Many have said this. It is obvious. No advanced degrees in higher math necessary to figure this out.

Half-time in Canada, half-time outside Canada, meets the PR RO by a reasonable margin and thus it is not really cutting-it-close, even if one might observe that it is cutting-it-a-bit-close to cutting-it-close. (There is no magic number of days that is not cutting-it-close, since, after all, the only formal requirement is the 730 days in Canada minimum, the 2/5 rule, and otherwise it is about appearances, impressions, credibility, and what other circumstances there might be raising questions.)

So any problems are more likely to arise, if any do, for other reasons. Way, way too many other aspects in the lives of immigrants, without even getting into those who do not fully settle permanently in Canada and thus lead a sort of border-straddling or border-hopping lifestyle, to try mapping potential pitfalls or things-which-might-go-bump-in-the-night.

But make no mistake, stuff happens.

Asking questions which are more suited for fortune tellers is common in this forum. While many efforts to offer answers state more or less accurate generalizations, relative to actual individuals these tend to be in the vein of prophesy or guess, and given the vagaries of life in some circumstances are more misleading than helpful.

In any event, I cannot guess what problems you may encounter in pursuing such a plan. I can say that many times life tends to slip off the intended path. And other times an unexpected obstacle arises even if one stays on the intended path. Again, stuff happens.

Prudence anticipates stuff happens.



If, or perhaps more to point, when . . . stuff happens:

Canada grants individuals PR status to facilitate the immigration of those individuals to Canada, so they can settle and live permanently in Canada. That is the purpose of granting PR status. Thus, while half-in, half-out, will meet the PR RO, and should not in itself cause a problem, if something else along the way raises a concern, or causes a problem, my sense is that a PR who has NOT permanently settled in Canada risks a more probing, less liberal if not outright less friendly, or even skeptical approach from CBSA or IRCC. We get a glimpse of the discontent this causes, here, in topics about the travails of Secondary Review.



On a practical note:

I concur in the observation by Bs65. When it is time to apply to renew your PR card, that would be a good time to plan staying for a good while in Canada, before and after making the application. (Making the application soon after arriving after an extended absence, longer than a routine holiday, which is weeks not months, seems likely to risk SR or a more robust Residency Determination. And, leaving Canada while the application is pending appears to more clearly elevate the risks of a problematic process.)

A more or less obvious snowbird schedule for a person in the retirement phase of life may not invite any concerns at all let alone problems. But context matters. A snowbird schedule could be rather incongruous and likely to raise questions for some PRs, while in itself not inviting questions for others.

This alludes to just one isolated circumstance, age or some other stage-of-life factor, which can tip how things go toward a very different direction for individuals otherwise apparently in very similar situations. (Among some of the most misleading answers one sees in these forums is the "this is how it went for me, so . . . " Individual reports are not a good guide to how things will go for everyone else.)
 

Leon

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There's no problem with the PR RO if you stay 6 months per year.

However, keep in mind that if you are living with one foot in Canada and keeping a 2nd home in Canada, you are tax resident and will have to file taxes in Canada on your world income and if you want to enjoy health care, you also need to make sure that you continue to meet the eligibility requirements for health care in your province which could be 5-6 months per year in a calendar year or per every 12 months.