Mother's visitor visa rejected, my WP expiring soon, how to reapply?

[nogammat]

We had applied for my mother-in-law's visitor visa stating the purpose of visit is to assist for my wife's delivery. We got the rejection letter alongwith other docs within a week.Following reasons were given.

You hv not satisfied me that u wud leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary resident. Factors cosidered were,
1. Length of stay in Canada
2. Purpose of visit

So are these the only reasons or next time they may object to something else?

In her letter we had mentioned the purpose of travel like 'Following their invitation, I would like to visit and assist them for the period preceding and following the delivery, tentatively from 25-April-2013 for 3 to 4 months.'

Should we have mentioned some exact date like 30th July?

Second concern is, my work permit is expiring on 30th may. We had mentioned it in our invitation letter stating the extension application number. (so that evenif they see the expiry date on my WP, she might get permission for a longer stay) But might that be the reason for the refusal?

Now that we already have said this in earlier application can we simply apply for the duration of 25 April to 30 May & later apply for extending the stay once she comes here?

Request you to guide us. Cheers!

:-[ :-[

 

[SenoritaBella]

Before you re-apply, order your GCMS notes. You will need your mother-in-law to sign an authorization form to enable you obtain notes about her. These notes will have the visa officer's detailed notes on the refusal.

1. Length of stay - better to be specific as to how long she will stay e.g. 4 weeks, from Apr xx to May xx and have a travel ticket reservation with those dates (don't buy the ticket without a visa). Saying "3 to 4 months" may have led the officer to believe she will stay longer.

2. Purpose of visit - well, if you guys need assistance may be the officer felt you could hire a nanny or doula in Canada. I think you should have explained more why you guys need her there. e.g. in some cultures, a woman's mother must be present during the birth and has specific duties to perform after delivery.
Is your wife having a complicated pregnancy requiring a lot of assistance? If so, attach medical records, etc. Just something to help establish reasons why her mom's presence is needed.

 

[nogammat]

Thank you SenoritaBella for your valuable input.

Yes, it is a high risk pregnancy & we hv doctor's letter to attach. My wife is on bedrest & there are chances of preterm delivery. My mother in law is a retired nurse!

We had mentioned our due date (3rd week of june) in my mother in law's letter of purpose. So, now the problem is whether to apply only till the WP validity - 30th May (which then doesn't match with the purpose mentioned) or till July end going with the earlier request (but then it's beyond my WP expiry dt). What would you suggest?

Moreover, the delivery date and WP expiry date hv already been mentioned in our first attempt. Hence, will it be inconsistent if we now ask for visa till May 30th?

A safer option would have been to wait till WP gets renewed (1 wk May), but that puts her travel towards end of May, which is too late for us.

Moreover if we order for GCMS, it will take probably a month. Unfortunately we don't hv that much margin.

 

[scylla]

What evidence did you include with the first application to show that your mother-in-law has strong ties to her home country and no plans to remain in Canada long term?

 

[nogammat]

We wrote the following points in her letter of purpose to illustrate ties:

- Own a House/bungalow (no official valuation provided, only showed property tax receipts)
- Two sons, one son married and his family, the other son unmarried yet
- Brothers and sisters in India
- Retirement pension (monthly statements for over the last year)
- Bank deposit receipts for retirement funds
- Travelled to USA for the same reason (for my wife's first delivery) & came back in 3 months

Are these sufficient?

Again our questions are:
- Should we simply apply for the duration of 25 April to 30 May (my WP validity date) & later apply for extending the stay once she comes here and my WP gets extended?
- Or apply till 31-July going with the earlier request (but then it's beyond my WP expiry dt)
- Should we elaborate on the purpose of travel providing doctor's letter that she is on bed rest?
- Is official evaluation of assets recommended?

 

[nogammat]

We had applied for my mother-in-law's visitor visa stating the purpose of visit is to assist for my wife's delivery. We got the rejection letter alongwith other docs within a week.Following reasons were given.

You hv not satisfied me that u wud leave Canada at the end of your stay as a temporary resident. Factors cosidered were,
1. Length of stay in Canada
2. Purpose of visit

So are these the only reasons or next time they may object to something else?

In her letter we had mentioned the purpose of travel like 'Following their invitation, I would like to visit and assist them for the period preceding and following the delivery, tentatively from 25-April-2013 for 3 to 4 months.'

Should we have mentioned some exact date like 30th July?

Second concern is, my work permit is expiring on 30th may. We had mentioned it in our invitation letter stating the extension application number. (so that evenif they see the expiry date on my WP, she might get permission for a longer stay) But might that be the reason for the refusal?

Now that we already have said this in earlier application can we simply apply for the duration of 25 April to 30 May & later apply for extending the stay once she comes here?

Request you to guide us. Cheers!

 

[SenoritaBella]

Again our questions are:
- Should we simply apply for the duration of 25 April to 30 May (my WP validity date) & later apply for extending the stay once she comes here and my WP gets extended? Apply for the duration she intends to stay, even if it is beyond the validity date of your work permit. Attach a letter explaining that you've applied for extension of your status(if you have done so and include a copy of your fee receipt as proof) or that you intend to do so before the expiration date of your work permit.
- Or apply till 31-July going with the earlier request (but then it's beyond my WP expiry dt) What's important is that you have legal status. As long as you apply for extension before your current permit expires, you will have implied status which allows you to stay in Canada until a decision is made.
- Should we elaborate on the purpose of travel providing doctor's letter that she is on bed rest? Yes, elaborate on the purpose of travel. Be careful about mentioning that she is a retired nurse though, you do not want them being concerned that she will "practice" her profession on her daughter(your wife). Instead, you may consider explaining that your wife is on bed rest for a high risk pregnancy, you have to work to support your family, any difficulties you have, etc. So you are therefore inviting her mother to assist you guys for the rest of the pregnancy and after delivery for ___ months.
- Is official evaluation of assets recommended? Not necessarily, just adequate documentation.
Does your mom-in-law have any children who are minors/dependant on her for their livelihood? It wouldn't hurt for you and your wife to include proof of funds, letter from your employer to confirm employment, your most recent T4 and notice of assessment. I have seen posts on here where on the second application, they were rejected for a different reason. So best to cover all bases.

Only GCMS notes will have details on the refusal.

 

[nogammat]

Thanks a lot SenoritaBella.
We'll keep in mind all your inputs. It is good to reconsider all the aspects before applying for the second time. We hv details of my WP application & the high risk clinics letter too. Unfortunately, we can't order & wait for the GCMS bcoz of the time constraint.
Now the cover letter means the new purpose of travel letter for the visitor, right? Accordingly we'll change our letter of invitation too. We'll see if travel tickets can only be reserved instead of buying as per your suggestion.
Let's hope for good only..

 

[saqi4you]

my mother also rejected
my wife give birth triplets(3) babies

 

[SenoritaBella]

Just to clarify, my comments are meant as a guide only. So you should only write what is true and factual as pertains to your case.

Thanks a lot SenoritaBella.
We'll keep in mind all your inputs. It is good to reconsider all the aspects before applying for the second time. We hv details of my WP application & the high risk clinics letter too. Unfortunately, we can't order & wait for the GCMS bcoz of the time constraint.
Now the cover letter means the new purpose of travel letter for the visitor, right? Accordingly we'll change our letter of invitation too. We'll see if travel tickets can only be reserved instead of buying as per your suggestion.
Let's hope for good only..