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Mistake (?) in marital status

AlexZ92

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In October 2016 I left my Canadian wife because of mental and physical abuse (we were living together in Canada).
Then I came to Canada Jan 20th 2018 and started living with my now fiancé.

In October 2017 if I am correct I should have been considered legally separated and now since Jan 20th 2018 I am considered in a common law relationship.

We want to apply for PR through common-law sponsorship.

My question: In my last two visa extension application I referred myself as married and my girlfriend as friend on the application because I didn’t know that I could have been considered legally separated (I thought I had to go through a process) and I also referred my girlfriend as a friend because I didn’t know if CIC would accept me living with a girlfriend if my marital status was “married.

Would that affect my sponsorship application since I’m going to mark our marital status as common-law but I didn’t mark it as “separated” and “girlfriend” on my previous visa extension application?

I think it should be fine but I wanna make sure. Is it a problem? Can I fix it if it’s a problem?
 

Bornlucky

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In October 2016 I left my Canadian wife because of mental and physical abuse (we were living together in Canada).
Then I came to Canada Jan 20th 2018 and started living with my now fiancé.

In October 2017 if I am correct I should have been considered legally separated and now since Jan 20th 2018 I am considered in a common law relationship.

We want to apply for PR through common-law sponsorship.

My question: In my last two visa extension application I referred myself as married and my girlfriend as friend on the application because I didn’t know that I could have been considered legally separated (I thought I had to go through a process) and I also referred my girlfriend as a friend because I didn’t know if CIC would accept me living with a girlfriend if my marital status was “married.

Would that affect my sponsorship application since I’m going to mark our marital status as common-law but I didn’t mark it as “separated” and “girlfriend” on my previous visa extension application?

I think it should be fine but I wanna make sure. Is it a problem? Can I fix it if it’s a problem?
I don't think that this will be significant within the application, on its own. These sponsorships look at all of the evidence that you'll be providing and then assess it against anything that could point towards a possible relationship of convenience and any reportable things. Your status, the timing of the sponsorship, this sort of thing.

I suppose that I'd be interested in how you said that you were supporting yourself as a visitor in earlier applications, for example did you ever claim that your spouse was covering your expenses. If I saw that this was somehow overlapping during your time building the common-law status, well this would be an inconsistency that would certainly perk the interest of anyone responsible for reviewing these earlier applications and could be just the sort of thing that leads to a far more thorough review.

Of course, being in two committed relationships in what might be considered a brief portion of time (not being subjective here, just speculating on the likely suspicions of those who are paid to be suspicious), and this alone could cause the investigation of the application to move from a desk to the field (home visits or a possible request to attend an interview).

I do think that if you earlier stated that you relied upon your wife to support you then you should expect that she may be contacted to see when that stopped, and whatever else she wants to add.
 

AlexZ92

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My fiancé wrote a letter stating that I’ll be residing at her house, we attached that to both the visitor extension application.
My source of income is my father, he provided me with a statement declaring that he would be supporting me financially for the duration of my visit and also I attached bank statements to support it.

If anything I can always attach a letter explaining the mistake, would that work?
It remains the fact that I wasn’t able anyways to mark my marital status as common law while I applied for the extension as I officially entered common-law on Jan 20th 2019.

(Isn’t the interview mandatory after stage 1 approval anyway?)
 

Bornlucky

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My fiancé wrote a letter stating that I’ll be residing at her house, we attached that to both the visitor extension application.
My source of income is my father, he provided me with a statement declaring that he would be supporting me financially for the duration of my visit and also I attached bank statements to support it.

If anything I can always attach a letter explaining the mistake, would that work?
It remains the fact that I wasn’t able anyways to mark my marital status as common law while I applied for the extension as I officially entered common-law on Jan 20th 2019.

(Isn’t the interview mandatory after stage 1 approval anyway?)
It all remains to be seen, but stage one is the approval in principle so any interview would come before that as they wouldn't begin processing the PR application before approving the sponsorship.
 

AlexZ92

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I don’t think I’ve ever stated that I ever relied upon my (soon to be ex) wife for support as at the time I had a credit card and was fully able to support myself without relying on her.
 

AlexZ92

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It all remains to be seen, but stage one is the approval in principle so any interview would come before that as they wouldn't begin processing the PR application before approving the sponsorship.
Can you please clarify the difference between stage 1 and 2?
You’re helping a lot, thank you!
 

Bornlucky

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I don’t think I’ve ever stated that I ever relied upon my (soon to be ex) wife for support as at the time I had a credit card and was fully able to support myself without relying on her.
That's good
Can you please clarify the difference between stage 1 and 2?
You’re helping a lot, thank you!
Sure, stage one is the decision to process the application from inside Canada as an exception to Canada processing PR applications while the person remains outside of Canada. So, do you qualify and is the decision-maker satisfied that you meet the policy requirements, or should they look deeper into (whatever).

Stage two involves the criminal, security and medical screening to look for anything that makes it contrary to the law to make you a PR.

So stage one is the hurdle and stage two will only be negatively effected if you've been bad or are seriously ill.

When you make a mistake (or believe that you have) it can be remedied by owning up to the confusion - it is about reason and being truthful and it ought to be appreciated if it all makes sense and wasn't meant to deceive.
 

AlexZ92

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That's good


Sure, stage one is the decision to process the application from inside Canada as an exception to Canada processing PR applications while the person remains outside of Canada. So, do you qualify and is the decision-maker satisfied that you meet the policy requirements, or should they look deeper into (whatever).

Stage two involves the criminal, security and medical screening to look for anything that makes it contrary to the law to make you a PR.

So stage one is the hurdle and stage two will only be negatively effected if you've been bad or are seriously ill.

When you make a mistake (or believe that you have) it can be remedied by owning up to the confusion - it is about reason and being truthful and it ought to be appreciated if it all makes sense and wasn't meant to deceive.
You’re the best!
I was so confused but now I have a more clear idea about the process.
So if I meet the medical, criminal and security requirements and my relationship is genuine and I own up to eventual mistakes I should have nothing to fear?
 

Bornlucky

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You’re the best!
I was so confused but now I have a more clear idea about the process.
So if I meet the medical, criminal and security requirements and my relationship is genuine and I own up to eventual mistakes I should have nothing to fear?
If they decide to accept the sponsorship and agree to process your application then you've passed stage one. How will they view your application? That remains to be seen but I would guess that the two relationships will cross the decision-maker's mind, and I think that they may want to no more about all that, but that's simply an opinion and not necessarily so.
 

canuck78

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How did you meet you first wife? Your application has a lot of red flags since you returned to your home country and met another Canadian woman online and was back in Canada almost a year later. Why didn't your first wife sponsor you? How long were you married the first time before you separated? Did you date a long time before getting married?
 

AlexZ92

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How did you meet you first wife? Your application has a lot of red flags since you returned to your home country and met another Canadian woman online and was back in Canada almost a year later. Why didn't your first wife sponsor you? How long were you married the first time before you separated? Did you date a long time before getting married?
I met my first wife in 2013 as a friend and we became dating in 2014, in 2015 we married after having had a son.
We were about to start the sponsorship application but the relationship ended with me leaving because I found out she was unfaithful and she was also abusive toward me.
I left her in October 2016 and ultimately left Canada on March 2017 even though I had time until August to leave the country. I just didn’t want to be in Canada that way, I had no reasons to stay since I decided to end the relationship.
 

canuck78

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I met my first wife in 2013 as a friend and we became dating in 2014, in 2015 we married after having had a son.
We were about to start the sponsorship application but the relationship ended with me leaving because I found out she was unfaithful and she was also abusive toward me.
I left her in October 2016 and ultimately left Canada on March 2017 even though I had time until August to leave the country. I just didn’t want to be in Canada that way, I had no reasons to stay since I decided to end the relationship.
Were you in Canada as a student? working in? in 2013? Find if very disturbing that you say that you have no reason to remain in Canada given that you have a son. It is ver unusual for someone who just left Canada to meet someone online from Canada just 6ish months later unless they are trying to date someone in Canada. These will be concerns.
 

AlexZ92

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Were you in Canada as a student? working in? in 2013? Find if very disturbing that you say that you have no reason to remain in Canada given that you have a son. It is ver unusual for someone who just left Canada to meet someone online from Canada just 6ish months later unless they are trying to date someone in Canada. These will be concerns.
I met her on Facebook on 2013 and travelled to Canada in 2014 to meet her.
I forgot to mention that I stayed until March but I was only allowed to see my son until February, after that she decided to not let me see my son and also I wasn’t feeling very well emotionally (it’s tough having to endure all that) and ultimately I ran out of money since I moved out of our house and had to spend way more for my stay.
 

AlexZ92

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I understand the concerns of CIC but if I wanted to get PR why wouldn’t I just stayed with my wife despite infidelity and abuse? Like I said we were preparing all the paperwork for my sponsorship application. If I really wanted to gain permanent status in Canada I would have done that.
The decision to leave was mine.
I am an honest person, I don’t take advantage of the system just to gain status in another country. I am not from a poor family or a poor country. I want to be with my fiancé in Canada because she had two children of her own and can’t afford to move to a foreign country.
My father owns a construction company and I could easily work for him as I did in the past.
I tried other options to come to Canada but I simply don’t qualify.
Common-law sponsorship is my only option and I can’t afford to leave my fiancé because I don’t know when I will be able to come back to Canada in the future due to immigration (spending too much time in Canada as a visitor can be a problem if I go back home and then travel back to Canada In a short amount of time).