Misrepresentation Please Help

[OurJy]

Good Day House,

Please am currently in a big Mess, I applied for my Canada study permit application through a consultant in my home country unfortunately, they were not IRCC Regulated,

I sent them all my genuine documents etc and complete and honest information, and I later joined forums which enlightens me more on visa application process, so I ordered my GCMS file from CBSA to check the status of my application, My visa has been approved and stamped,

A month after my approval, my CBSA file arrived and I was shocked to see that the consultant had uploaded fake certificate, employment history etc on my application without my consent.

Please note that No PFL was issued, Visa has been issued but I do not plan to live and enter Canada on a lie, what are my options, can I proceed to to withdraw the application after approval and explain myself to IRCC? or should I just forget Canada and try other countries making sure I am in charge of my application henceforth

 

[GandiBaat]

Good Day House,

Please am currently in a big Mess, I applied for my Canada study permit application through a consultant in my home country unfortunately, they were not IRCC Regulated,

I sent them all my genuine documents etc and complete and honest information, and I later joined forums which enlightens me more on visa application process, so I ordered my GCMS file from CBSA to check the status of my application, My visa has been approved and stamped,

A month after my approval, my CBSA file arrived and I was shocked to see that the consultant had uploaded fake certificate, employment history etc on my application without my consent.

Please note that No PFL was issued, Visa has been issued but I do not plan to live and enter Canada on a lie, what are my options, can I proceed to to withdraw the application after approval and explain myself to IRCC? or should I just forget Canada and try other countries making sure I am in charge of my application henceforth

First, are you sure that you have the right CBSA notes? How did you get the copy?
What is/was your long term plan in Canada?
How did you get admit in the first place? You applied yourself or did your consultant do it too? I am trying to gauge the extent of problem here.

Have you thought of getting a Canadian immigration lawyer's opinion? Can you afford it? If yes, I will highly recommend it.

 

[OurJy]

First, are you sure that you have the right CBSA notes? How did you get the copy?

Thank you for the reply, Yes I got the right CBSA File, I had initially wanted to order GCMS Notes to check the status of my application and I saw I am able to order my entire file submitted to IRCC, so I ordered the entire file as well as the Note

What is/was your long term plan in Canada?

My long term goal is relocation through the Study Route

How did you get admit in the first place? You applied yourself or did your consultant did it too?

The consultant handled all my Admission and Visa Application, as this is my first ever visa application, I didn't want to make mistakes so I allowed them thinking they could offer me professional experience

I am trying to gauge the extent of problem here.
Have you thought of getting a Canadian immigration lawyer's opinion? Can you afford it? If yes, I will highly recommend it.

I am trying to get help from people who had similar experience as mine, will IRCC handle my case with compassion, I have already reported the agent to police and filed a petition in my home country, I have done court affidavit and written a 46pages long proof containing all that happened between me and the former consultant alongside with proof of all the genuine documents I sent to them

 

[GandiBaat]

Okay, first thing first. You problem is very deep. You agent likely has defrauded you, fooled the DLI and also IRCC.. Quite a professional criminal. This means, most likely, your admission is ALSO bogus or fraudulent. As such, you do not have a genuine study permit or even an admission in a Canadian DLI. Its all fraudulent.

Did your consultant also offered to select the college/university/school too? If yes, it is likely that one is a diploma / degree mill.

Now, like it or not, you have committed a violation of law. Indirectly but still. That being said, if you even want to make a confession, no harm in consulting a professional who can give you a genuine advice. When you are seriously ill, you go to a doctor. When you are knee deep in this mess, you go to a lawyer. DIY can be troublesome. (PS : I am NOT a lawyer and have NO skin in this game).

Now what are the issues here:

1. Canada, has your information that is fraud. I do not know extent of it but it is substantial. Typically, they share limited amount of information with their partner countries like visa refusal, criminality and security BUT nothing stops them to increase the sharing in future. Or if there is something that limits their ability to share, I do not know. Point is, may be now it is not an issue in applying for visa in other countries, may be it might become an issue at some point of time. In the sense, you apply for a visa elsewhere and they compare your particulars which this guy might have given as fraud. You want to talk to a lawyer to know its implications in future and what remedy are available to you. I do not know if you walk away from this, it will be the last of this issue. It may very well be, but then it may be not.

2. Typically, you need to give a signed form (https://www.canada.ca/content/dam/ircc/migration/ircc/english/pdf/kits/forms/imm5476e.pdf) to appoint someone as a representative. If you do not, they are not your representative. If they are impersonating you to IRCC, it is crime. Can this be a defence for you? I do not know. A lawyer can perhaps know.

Sorry I do not have a ready made reply for you and you will not get a very good reply on this topic here too. Reason being, no one likes to write about their major errors in details.

@scylla

 

[OurJy]

Okay, first thing first. You problem is very deep. You agent likely has defrauded you, fooled the DLI and also IRCC.. Quite a professional criminal. This means, most likely, your admission is ALSO bogus or fraudulent. As such, you do not have a genuine study permit or even an admission in a Canadian DLI. Its all fraudulent.

Thank you so much for your Reply and in-depth explanation, He sent me access to my School portal and I verified the admission letter is genuine, I am indeed registered with tuition paid by myself to the school

Did your consultant also offered to select the college/university/school too? If yes, it is likely that one is a diploma / degree mill.

Yes they offered to select the college

Now, like it or not, you have committed a violation of law. Indirectly but still. That being said, if you even want to make a confession, no harm in consulting a professional who can give you a genuine advice. When you are seriously ill, you go to a doctor. When you are knee deep in this mess, you go to a lawyer. DIY can be troublesome. (PS : I am NOT a lawyer and have NO skin in this game).

I hired an immigration lawyer, and they advised if I choose to land with the visa, I could be at a risk of removal or deportation
Also, if I choose to withdraw and explain to IRCC, I stand a 50:50 chance of a ban or allowed to withdraw and reapply

However, we have not been able to find a similar case as mine, Cases I have seen are where Applicants were issued a PFL

Are there no cases like mine where applicants were approved, noticed this type of fraud and reported themselves.

Now what are the issues here:

1. Canada, has your information that is fraud. I do not know extent of it but it is substantial. Typically, they share limited amount of information with their partner countries like visa refusal, criminality and security BUT nothing stops them to increase the sharing in future. Or if there is something that limits their ability to share, I do not know. Point is, may be now it is not an issue in applying for visa in other countries, may be it might become an issue at some point of time. In the sense, you apply for a visa elsewhere and they compare your particulars which this guy might have given as fraud. You want to talk to a lawyer to know its implications in future and what remedy are available to you. I do not know if you walk away from this, it will be the last of this issue. It may very well be, but then it may be not.

This is exactly where it gets harder for me, If I choose to report myself, I might get a 5 year ban which further affects my future visa applications, or I can forget the visa and Canada, then apply to other countries

The situation of not seeing similar cases as mine makes it harder for my lawyer to predict what my fate will be,

Also, I understand the 5 year ban will definitely haunt me for the rest of my life, which is why I am tempted to forget Canada and the visa and apply to another countries.

2. Typically, you need to give a signed form (https://www.canada.ca/content/dam/ircc/migration/ircc/english/pdf/kits/forms/imm5476e.pdf) to appoint someone as a representative. If you do not, they are not your representative. If they are impersonating you to IRCC, it is crime. Can this be a defence for you? I do not know. A lawyer can perhaps know.

They didn't provide me with a representative form and unfortunately my lawyer didn't mention that could be advantageous to me

Sorry I do not have a ready made reply for you and you will not get a very good reply on this topic here too. Reason being, no one likes to write about their major errors in details.

Thank you so much for the comprehensive explanations and reply.

@scylla

 

[scylla]

Good Day House,

Please am currently in a big Mess, I applied for my Canada study permit application through a consultant in my home country unfortunately, they were not IRCC Regulated,

I sent them all my genuine documents etc and complete and honest information, and I later joined forums which enlightens me more on visa application process, so I ordered my GCMS file from CBSA to check the status of my application, My visa has been approved and stamped,

A month after my approval, my CBSA file arrived and I was shocked to see that the consultant had uploaded fake certificate, employment history etc on my application without my consent.

Please note that No PFL was issued, Visa has been issued but I do not plan to live and enter Canada on a lie, what are my options, can I proceed to to withdraw the application after approval and explain myself to IRCC? or should I just forget Canada and try other countries making sure I am in charge of my application henceforth

This situation is too complicated for an immigration forum. It is good that you have hired an immigration lawyer.

 

[OurJy]

This situation is too complicated for an immigration forum. It is good that you have hired an immigration lawyer.

Thank you for your input, I think I can only put my Trust in God and do the right thing at this point

 

[Boltj194]

Okay, first thing first. You problem is very deep. You agent likely has defrauded you, fooled the DLI and also IRCC.. Quite a professional criminal. This means, most likely, your admission is ALSO bogus or fraudulent. As such, you do not have a genuine study permit or even an admission in a Canadian DLI. Its all fraudulent.

Did your consultant also offered to select the college/university/school too? If yes, it is likely that one is a diploma / degree mill.

Now, like it or not, you have committed a violation of law. Indirectly but still. That being said, if you even want to make a confession, no harm in consulting a professional who can give you a genuine advice. When you are seriously ill, you go to a doctor. When you are knee deep in this mess, you go to a lawyer. DIY can be troublesome. (PS : I am NOT a lawyer and have NO skin in this game).

Now what are the issues here:

1. Canada, has your information that is fraud. I do not know extent of it but it is substantial. Typically, they share limited amount of information with their partner countries like visa refusal, criminality and security BUT nothing stops them to increase the sharing in future. Or if there is something that limits their ability to share, I do not know. Point is, may be now it is not an issue in applying for visa in other countries, may be it might become an issue at some point of time. In the sense, you apply for a visa elsewhere and they compare your particulars which this guy might have given as fraud. You want to talk to a lawyer to know its implications in future and what remedy are available to you. I do not know if you walk away from this, it will be the last of this issue. It may very well be, but then it may be not.

2. Typically, you need to give a signed form (https://www.canada.ca/content/dam/ircc/migration/ircc/english/pdf/kits/forms/imm5476e.pdf) to appoint someone as a representative. If you do not, they are not your representative. If they are impersonating you to IRCC, it is crime. Can this be a defence for you? I do not know. A lawyer can perhaps know.

Sorry I do not have a ready made reply for you and you will not get a very good reply on this topic here too. Reason being, no one likes to write about their major errors in details.

@scylla

I went to study in USA for my MBA on 2014and finished my course by October 2015 and I was working at rite aid. I met a girl and she used to visit everyday to me and she was coming everyday to see me. We fell in love. Her mom also came with her few times to see me. After a few months of relationship she mentioned we could marry. But I was little nervous and I was worried about different culture. But she said all good and I'm can adjust with your culture and we could even come and stay in india

One day she and her mom invited me to dinner. I was so happy and I went to dinner after dinner she proposed me for marriage and I was so excited.

Next days onwards she started caring me like husband like bring food to my work place

After few days she called me and said we can start living together but she said we need to marry first and that cost almost 1000 dollar and she don't have money for that. I told her we are in relationship and my

Money is your money too. I gave my debit card to her. She went to ATM and took money and gave card back to me. After one week we went to court house to marry and we had some reception for marriage. I told her we need to start living together but she said her mom is sick and she can't leave alone her mom and she started taking money from account for mom hospital expenses. I was working so many over time hours to save money but Same time she started taking money. I rented apartment to stay together but not even ready to move and kept saying excuses. One day I was at work and I swiped my card for lunch at a restaurant but my card declined and I was surprised why my debit card and I called my bank and they said your account dont have monry and you debit card used today morning. I told bank that I did not used it. I called my wife and she did not attend calls. I sent her text and no response. I talked this issue to my store manager and he said why she taking money and mostly us citizens we don't need to pay for health care. Even I don't know that because I was on work visa and I thought everyone has to pay it. I felt I got fooled. I was upset and I went to her home and I was shocked she was dancing and drinking with two other guys. I asked her who is this guys and she said it's none of your problem. Then I told her I'm ur husband and she started laughing and said you are indian dumb not husband stupid. Then I heard a girl calling her mom and I asked her who is this and she shouted at me and said it's my kids and she said you need to go now and two guys shouted at me and said leave now otherwisw you will be in trouble. I literally cried and ran away. I did not go to job for one week and the manager called me and told me to drivirce her she was chetaing you all this time . I sent her text saying you cheated me all this time and you ruined my life and you took my all hard work money. I asked her for divorce and she will sign it if I pay 1000 dollar lawyer fees and she also told me if I reported to anyone my friends will come to you and I know where you lives. I paid her and after few months 2017 she sent email saying divorce completed indian idiot. She also told me never email or text. It's over.



i never talked to her from 2017 and also i never seen her . i left usa permanently 2020



i came to canada . i sent email to usa in 2022 state for future immigration purposes i sent email to philadelphia city asking for my divorce copy and they replied saying nobody filed any divorce on your name or spouse name . i was so shocked and i talked to some family lawyers in toronto and they adviced me to call any lawyers in philadelphia . i sent emails to many lawyers replied saying they can file divorce and he filed divorce and finally judge signed divorce decree 2023 september and divirce finized



even my previous study , work , visitor visa applications they were asking previous spiuse details which mentioned start 2016 and end 2017 based informarion i received from ex wife . i have attacehd screenshot of that



even though she provided wrong info saying divirce is completed in 2017

our relationship already ended in 2017 and i never seen or talk to ex wife from 2017 . The last email was in 2017 saying divorce completed .

she mentioned in 2017 divorce completed





i went to my country and married in another woman in 2018 and we have 2 years old baby also . i came to study canada 2022 and my current wife and baby got work permit and visitor visa . i applied for pnp nomination together and there is no start date and end date on pnp application . so i simply upload divorce decree dated 2023 and current marriage certificate dated 2018



but on ircc application they asking start and date and end date of previous spouse



my question will be can i put same 2016 to 2017 previous marriage details on new PR application and attached divorce decree dated 2023 with cover letter saying this was happend.