Medical Waiting Period for me and my wife

[nefirious]

Hello all, I have received a letter from CIC instructing me to undergo a Medical checkup. It has to be done within 60 days. The Province where I am at, the clinic's, the appointments are booked uptill the next 60 days. But at my home country in India, she can just walk in at the cic affiliated clinic and get her medical done. But not me. So what happens then ? Does that mean she will get her PR application approved before me or does the application process require both of us to have our medicals done and then the processing begins ? Which of the other is true ? Please let me know, It would be a great help..

Thanks all...

 

[sarayu]

Hello all, I have received a letter from CIC instructing me to undergo a Medical checkup. It has to be done within 60 days. The Province where I am at, the clinic's, the appointments are booked uptill the next 60 days. But at my home country in India, she can just walk in at the cic affiliated clinic and get her medical done. But not me. So what happens then ? Does that mean she will get her PR application approved before me or does the application process require both of us to have our medicals done and then the processing begins ? Which of the other is true ? Please let me know, It would be a great help..

Thanks all...

Hi nefirious,

First of all congrats on your progress. If I am correct, you are already in Canada and your wife is in India right?

The first thing is, better both of you should finish your medical examinations before the dead line provided by CIC. Otherwise, you HAVE TO request special extension (which might not be possible at all....but I am not very sure). Even if you get extension, your PR process will obviously get delayed.

I just wanted to bring it to your notice, that you can take your medical exam anywhere in the world but the doctor must be a CIC-Designated Panel Physician. So, you may go to any other places since you don't have appointments until next 60 days.

You may have a look at the below link to find out the panel physician.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/dmp-md/medical.aspx

I don't think it would cause any issues as long as you and your wife finish your medicals within the CIC mentioned time lines.

Thanks,
Sarayu.

 

[nefirious]

Thanks Sarayu for the response. Does that mean I can get my Medical done in Toronto if I can book my appointment for the next week or so. Do you have any recommendation about what place would be best to get my Medical done asap. The province that I am at seems to have a poor health care system, hardly any staff, hence they book you after a month or so. But my other question was, if my wife gets her Medicals done before me, does that mean she will have a better chance at getting her PR before me ?

Thanks, feedback appreciated..

 

[sarayu]

Thanks Sarayu for the response. Does that mean I can get my Medical done in Toronto if I can book my appointment for the next week or so. Do you have any recommendation about what place would be best to get my Medical done asap. The province that I am at seems to have a poor health care system, hardly any staff, hence they book you after a month or so. But my other question was, if my wife gets her Medicals done before me, does that mean she will have a better chance at getting her PR before me ?

Thanks, feedback appreciated..

Hi nefirious,

Yes, you can absolutely take your medical exam at Toronto. I am sorry, but I can't recommend you any hospital in Toronto as I am not in Canada. If you really need to know this, post your question in November 2012 thread, there are many applicants who can help you out.

Coming to the other point, CPP-Ottawa may not start immediately upon receiving your wife's medicals results...so, hopefully they start working on your file once they receive both of your medical results. This is what my understanding.

Thanks,
Sarayu.

 

[nefirious]

Thanks again Sarayu for the reply. I am very appalled by the waiting times here in my province. My wife is able to complete her medical examination in a week and here they say it would take 50 days to book an appointment. Very frustrating, and so now it leaves me with no choice but to spend another $ 900 and go to a province that would give me an early appointment. I don't want to get into the hassle of asking cic for an extension for my medical examination as that would mean more delay. Any recommendations anyone as to what would be a good province or a clinic to get my medicals done.

Thanks..

 

[arif.jabbar]

Are you serious you are going to spend $900 and will go to other province. I would never suggest you and this is the reason why.

Your spouse can't be PR before you can, being the principal applicant

The deadline for 60 days is because nobody cares at visa office if you do medical on 1st day or 60th day. If you see jan/feb 2013 tracking sheets, there is no correlation between when MR was done and when the status on ecas change from medical received to in process. Yes there is a correlation between when AOR received and status change to in process which is on average 90 days.

The reason behind this 90 days rationality is criminality check which start the day when u receive AOR. Criminality check usually takes 90 days and then they see whether your MR has been received.

Also, I got medical request on 7th may, I did medical on 9th may 2013, status updated as MR received on 14th may. Nothing after that has happened because I received aor on 2nd may.

Hope this helps.

 

[arif.jabbar]

and yes 90 days thing applies on CPP ottawa

 

[nefirious]

Hi Jabbar, yes I understood that even if my wife does her medical before, she still won't get PR before me. I called cic and confirmed that. The reason I want to get my medical done from a different province is because I don't want no delay at all. Where did you get your medical examination done from ? Which Province if I may ask. Also, I still have been unable to understand what AOR means? Are you referring to the tracking no that CIC gives you once they acknowledge your Application ?

 

[arif.jabbar]

I had it from ontario - waterloo. Also, AOR means exactly what you mentioned in your email.

Trust me, it doesn't matter when ever you do med within 60 days.

I am married too and my spouse is back home. I would highly encourage you to apply for open work permit if you are under NOC O, A, B.

IF you need any more information, feel free to inbox me.

Arif

 

[nefirious]

Thanks for the input Jabbar. I just want to get this med done as soon as possible. Atleast a week prior to the last day. I cannot inbox you, as I am a newbie here I guess. I had already applied for the OPW for my wife, but it got refused, even though my job falls under NOC O, A, B, had a letter from the province as well to grant her a visa, quite unfortunate. But thats a different story. So when did you say you recd your AOR ? And when do you think you will have your status updated ? tentative ?

 

[arif.jabbar]

what was the reason for rejection? apply again and mention this:

http:// www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/fw/fw01-eng.pdf (see page 79-80)

Note: Spouses or common-law partners of work permit holders who have been nominated for
permanent residence by a province will be entitled to open work permits for the duration of
the work permit of the provincial nominee principal applicant, irrespective of the skill level
of the principal applicant’s occupation. While there is reluctance on the part of CIC and
HRSDC/SC to support work permits for lower-skilled workers because their skills profile
would not normally qualify them for permanent immigration to Canada, concerns regarding
these persons going out of status and remaining in Canada illegally are mitigated when the
foreign national has been nominated for permanent residence. If a province feels a foreign
national is sufficiently needed in its labour market to nominate that person, then having that
job filled is clearly important, irrespective of where in the NOC that particular job is classified.
Since, in the long run, the spouse or common-law partner is going to be a member of the
Canadian labour market anyway, allowing them to enter the market and begin work as soon
as possible will hasten the integration process.
LMO exemption code T13 (or C10 for spouses or common-law partners of Quebec CSQ
holders selected under its Programme régulier des travailleurs qualifies (PRTQ) and its
Programme de l’expérience québécoise (PEQ), who are holders of a valid work permit,


I rec aor on 2 may and expect to change status before 31 july or max 31 aug.

Thanks for the input Jabbar. I just want to get this med done as soon as possible. Atleast a week prior to the last day. I cannot inbox you, as I am a newbie here I guess. I had already applied for the OPW for my wife, but it got refused, even though my job falls under NOC O, A, B, had a letter from the province as well to grant her a visa, quite unfortunate. But thats a different story. So when did you say you recd your AOR ? And when do you think you will have your status updated ? tentative ?

 

[arif.jabbar]

also, for your reference check this:

http:// www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/op/op07b-eng.pdf

Temporary resident visas and work permits
Applicants sometimes apply for temporary resident visas (TRV) to make exploratory trips to
Canada. Some provinces require prospective applicants in certain categories to make such a visit
before nomination can occur. Individuals applying for TRVs for such purposes are subject to the
same requirements as persons travelling for other purposes. Applicants or their representatives
have occasionally argued that if the visit is required by the province, the visa officer should assess
only the admissibility of the applicant, not their bona fides. There is no legal basis whatsoever for
this argument. Clearly, a TRV issued to facilitate an exploratory visit may be abused as easily as a
TRV issued for any other purpose.
That being said, officers should apply the dual-intent provisions and be cognizant of the fact that
an applicant who is likely to be nominated by a province may well be less motivated to abuse their
visa than one who has fewer prospects of obtaining legal permanent admission to Canada.
Officers must carefully consider all the information available to them and make a reasonable
decision on the basis of that information.

Section 5.27 of FW 1 deals with the issuance of work permits to provincial nominees. Under
R204(c), work permits can be issued to prospective or actual provincial nominees. The applicant
must present a letter from the province stating that they have been nominated and requesting a
work permit. It is not necessary for the visa office to have received the nominee’s application for
permanent residence before issuing a work permit. Spouses of provincial nominees are entitled to
open work permits regardless of the skill level of the principal applicant.

 

[nefirious]

Yeah, I saw that Jabbar, even before we had applied I had a look at the Provincial Nominee guide. Adfter her refusal I came acros the Worker's Manual Guide. I had my MP to have a look at it. They said they will try and see what they can do. I don't have any high hopes but still whatever helps. My PR may take another 6 months or so after my Medicals. I wanted to get my wife here before that. It was such a disappointment. The problem is that you cannot contact the CIC to ask why it was refused. The reasons are very generic. They say the reason why they are refusing is because they believe she will not leave Canada at the end of her term and also because she has no travel history. I thought in such cases, since I have a job under skill category A,O, the visa officer should have applied the dual intent, since I am already a Provincial Nominee. But that din't seem to have happened. Ah well...