Marriage certificate for parents super/visitor visa

[Kawal_supervisa]

Hi Friends,

I am planning to apply for Super visa for my father and mother who do not have a history of travelling out of India at all. My query is if their marriage certificate is a compulsory document for application, or their own passport with each other name on it will also do.
Please share your experience and sugestion

 

[Bryanna]

Your birth certificate which states both their names as your parents is necessary.

Apart from this, you can include their marriage certificate (if it is available) or copies of their passports which state each other's names as spouse

 

[Kawal_supervisa]

Thanks Bryanna very much.

But we recently applied for visa extension as super visa for my mother in law in which we just provided my husbands' passport last page, as proof of relation to his mother, and had no issues.
But I have more queries for you too regarding my parents visa. Hope you would help me. My father has some kidney problems, but has not reached stage of dialysis. Just shows some protein loss in urine as well as little high createnine in blood. But I am not able to get confident on his medical admissibility and am afraid that his visa might get refused on this basis. How do i confirm this? Do I try to apply for only TRV visa for both of them to avoid medical examination or risk applying super visa. The major difference between the 2 as i understand is that in Super visa, i can show all my financial docs and my parents don't need to show any from them, whereas in TRV, they either need to show their own financial docs or of the one who is currently supporting them as well as supporting them during their visit. Though I can definitely still provide my financial docs in case of TRV too, but want to know if that will be sufficient if I provide supporting letter that I am supporting him currently as well.

Is there any benefit in applying separately for my parents. Super visa for mom first and once that comes, apply visitor visa for dad. and vice versa.

I talked to a visa agent and he says that if you are able to get full proof medical insurance for him, you should apply super visa which is easier for parents if you fulfill the LICO. I am totaly confused . Plzzzzz help

 

[Bryanna]

But we recently applied for visa extension as super visa for my mother in law in which we just provided my husbands' passport last page, as proof of relation to his mother, and had no issues.

For a super visa, the applicant (parent/grandparent) must prove their relationship to the Canadian sponsor. So, either the birth certificate or the passport page (with the parents' names.... which is based on the birth certificate) will be fine.

My father has some kidney problems, but has not reached stage of dialysis. Just shows some protein loss in urine as well as little high createnine in blood. But I am not able to get confident on his medical admissibility and am afraid that his visa might get refused on this basis. How do i confirm this?

I suggest you:
1. Do the same medical tests like your dad would do if he was applying for a super visa.

2. Seek medical opinion from a kidney specialist (preferably one who is listed as a panel physician) + from the insurer (Canadian insurance company for super visa)

Based on this, you would be able to decide whether or not to apply for a super visa.


Regardless of a super visa or a TRV, it is necessary that your dad includes medical insurance when he applies as hospitalization due to kidney problems can be expensive.

Is there any benefit in applying separately for my parents. Super visa for mom first and once that comes, apply visitor visa for dad. and vice versa.

You can do this. It's a good idea too.

IMO, the starting point would be to do these medical tests. This way you'd know whether or not your dad will clear the super visa medicals + whether an insurer is willing to insure him

 

[Kawal_supervisa]

For a super visa, the applicant (parent/grandparent) must prove their relationship to the Canadian sponsor. So, either the birth certificate or the passport page (with the parents' names.... which is based on the birth certificate) will be fine.



I suggest you:
1. Do the same medical tests like your dad would do if he was applying for a super visa.

2. Seek medical opinion from a kidney specialist (preferably one who is listed as a panel physician) + from the insurer (Canadian insurance company for super visa)

Based on this, you would be able to decide whether or not to apply for a super visa.


Regardless of a super visa or a TRV, it is necessary that your dad includes medical insurance when he applies as hospitalization due to kidney problems can be expensive.



You can do this. It's a good idea too.

IMO, the starting point would be to do these medical tests. This way you'd know whether or not your dad will clear the super visa medicals + whether an insurer is willing to insure him

Thanks,

I have already tried to do these things:
- asked my father to get the suspected tests of urine routine and KFT done and took appointment of a panel doctor separately and asked him to visit that doctor . But when he went, the doctor refused to give any guidance and said that his work is only to send reports from his side, decision is not taken by him.
Do you know if they have decision making in their hand?

- Contacted an insurance agent, ( the same from whom we bought super visa insurance for my mom in law) and consulted her several times to check if he would be covered and she said yes because he has not required any change in medical treatment in last 12 months and also never had any heart failure issues . It's only a little higher amount if I want to cover any pre existing condition but don't need to declare the names of conditions

 

[Kawal_supervisa]

Could you please reconfirm that it is completely fine to apply for TRV (not super visa) and show only my financial documents, and not any of my parents. As my parents are retired and do not have a lot of saving, just a little and a home of own. But otherwise financially dependant on my brother for his daily needs. I know my brother would not be able to show enough income and finance to be able to sponsor his visit, and so I don't want to ask him to provide his papers.

Also, I am more interested in TRV instead of Super visa now only because I want to avoid getting the medical examination done for my father. Otherwise I am ready, and will get his medical insurance done when he visits canada

 

[Bryanna]

For TRVs, your parents must demonstrate that they can afford the visit on their own. In their situation, it would have helped if your brother could support their visit, but as you've mentioned this is not possible.

1. Does your dad get a pension every month? Do your parents have any financial investments (FDs, RDs, shares, mutual funds, LIC, etc)?

2. Do post the list of documents which you intend to submit


My advice:
1. Even for a TRV, your dad must be in reasonably good health + covered by an overseas travel medical insurance policy. You wouldn't want to run up a huge bill if he unfortunately has to be in hospital.

Don't risk applying for your dad or his visit to Canada if his health is not too good.


2. Hope you're keeping your parents' visit to just 3-4 weeks max. and not 6 months on a TRV followed by an extension.

3. Alternatively, apply for a TRV for only your mom.... wait until your dad's health improves and then apply later for a TRV

 

[Kawal_supervisa]

For TRVs, your parents must demonstrate that they can afford the visit on their own. In their situation, it would have helped if your brother could support their visit, but as you've mentioned this is not possible.

1. Does your dad get a pension every month? Do your parents have any financial investments (FDs, RDs, shares, mutual funds, LIC, etc)?

No pension, only some FD that too amounting less than 10000 CAD, that too split between both parents, not solely in one person name.
They also own a home, but in name of mother again for tax reasons.

2. Do post the list of documents which you intend to submit

From my side, I can show my T4, salary slips, job offer letter, bank statements.

My advice:
1. Even for a TRV, your dad must be in reasonably good health + covered by an overseas travel medical insurance policy. You wouldn't want to run up a huge bill if he unfortunately has to be in hospital.

He has been ill for few days more than 3 years ago, but now he seems stable. Did not have any further complications after that and has actually improved personally. Only his test results show what I already described, and that doctors said is going to continue.
I will make sure I have his insurance covered with pre-existing coverage before he comes , actually even before I apply for him, to. make his case strong .


Don't risk applying for your dad or his visit to Canada if his health is not too good.


2. Hope you're keeping your parents' visit to just 3-4 weeks max. and not 6 months on a TRV followed by an extension.

Don't intend for extension for now, but want them to live with me for some time. I want to make them happy and give them what I could never do I my whole life yet.

3. Alternatively, apply for a TRV for only your mom.... wait until your dad's health improves and then apply later for a TRV

I don't expect the results to get better. And I know, there is no use for mom to come alone. She takes care of dads food and others at home. Don't want to keep them separate too. It's just I was thinking, may be I apply for her super visa first and when it comes, apply for visitor for him . But if there was still a possibility to get some clear picture about his medical admissibility conditions that would have been much relieving. How do I go about that

 

[Bryanna]

But if there was still a possibility to get some clear picture about his medical admissibility conditions that would have been much relieving. How do I go about that

Like I had suggested in my previous post, your dad should do dummy medical tests from an IRCC panel physician WITHOUT applying for a super visa.

The panel physician will let you know whether his medical reports are clear or not. You can then check if an insurance company is willing to insure him.

There are a number of IRCC listed panel physicians, in India, which offer health checkup packages for anyone (not just for super visa applicants). For example, Fortis Healthcare and Apollo Hospitals.

This is the only way you can be sure without risking medical inadmissibility

 

[Kawal_supervisa]

Hi Bryanna,

I had also posterd answers to some of your question within your 2nd last post iself, please see to them if they might be sufficient for TRV. Also do you think it is good to put in both applications for maother nad father separately, to avoid the effect of rejection on my mothers application. Or may be i can put in my moms super visa application and start looking for proper health assessment for my father. Once it gets clearer, i might immediately apply separately for my father as well ( TRV or Super Visa, on basis of the response I get in assessment), so that he is able to come here for a few weeks only. I want to make my parents happy at least for some time. They are sad and just passing their time in life, and it makes me feel sad too. Is marriage certificate needed for their individual application too.

 

[Bryanna]

I had answered your concerns about your parents' financials for a TRV. I'm re-posting my reply

For TRVs, your parents must demonstrate that they can afford the visit on their own. In their situation, it would have helped if your brother could support their visit, but as you've mentioned this is not possible.

1. Does your dad get a pension every month? Do your parents have any financial investments (FDs, RDs, shares, mutual funds, LIC, etc)?

2. Do post the list of documents which you intend to submit


My advice:
1. Even for a TRV, your dad must be in reasonably good health + covered by an overseas travel medical insurance policy. You wouldn't want to run up a huge bill if he unfortunately has to be in hospital.

Don't risk applying for your dad or his visit to Canada if his health is not too good.


2. Hope you're keeping your parents' visit to just 3-4 weeks max. and not 6 months on a TRV followed by an extension.

3. Alternatively, apply for a TRV for only your mom.... wait until your dad's health improves and then apply later for a TRV

 

[hemantanna555]

Hi Friends,

I am planning to apply for Super visa for my father and mother who do not have a history of travelling out of India at all. My query is if their marriage certificate is a compulsory document for application, or their own passport with each other name on it will also do.
Please share your experience and sugestion

Hi, Are you paying the insurance fees. How much is it. What are the cheapest options

 

[Kawal_supervisa]

I had answered your concerns about your parents' financials for a TRV. I'm re-posting my reply

Thanks Bryanna,
I sent my father to a panel doctor for full health checkup yesterday in max hospital. He is getting his tests done. Once he is done, should I ask for a stability certificate or declaration for my father if he finds him ok. This will also serve as a document in support of insurance declaration. Or I should then clearly ask him about Canada medical exam possibilities. Once if I find it all clear, should I apply for super visa first and wait for medical request or get the medical first using default form on website and then apply for visa. Is it useful to show the little financial docs that my parents have even in case of super visa. Since my parents are no more working and have only a few FD and a home with them,they have also not filed I T return for last 3-4 years. Hope that would not make any difference.

 

[Kawal_supervisa]

Hi, Are you paying the insurance fees. How much is it. What are the cheapest options

For my father of age 72, it is 3000 cad a year for covering pre existing disease under stable chronic conditions . Also have option to pay monthly with 2 months + 50 advance

 

[Bryanna]

Thanks Bryanna,
I sent my father to a panel doctor for full health checkup yesterday in max hospital. He is getting his tests done. Once he is done, should I ask for a stability certificate or declaration for my father if he finds him ok. This will also serve as a document in support of insurance declaration. Or I should then clearly ask him about Canada medical exam possibilities.

That's good.

Do not ask for a stability certificate/letter in support of insurance declaration. A hospital will not guarantee anyone's health.

Also, any insurance company has their own in-house team of medical specialists who review medical reports to assess someone's health or for insurance claims.

You can ask Max Hospital if he is in good health to apply for a Canada super visa... or if they think he may to undergo secondary investigations.

You can also say that the current set of tests are only for personal checkup and are NOT intended as the actual super visa medical tests.

Once if I find it all clear, should I apply for super visa first and wait for medical request or get the medical first using default form on website and then apply for visa.

You can do upfront medicals. Or if his health may improve in the next 1-2 months (which would be inline with the time required to get a medicals request) then do the medicals later. It depends on his current test results.

Is it useful to show the little financial docs that my parents have even in case of super visa. Since my parents are no more working and have only a few FD and a home with them,they have also not filed I T return for last 3-4 years. Hope that would not make any difference.

Yes, they must show some amount of financials + ties to go back to even for a super visa