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Misplaced Brit

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22/10/2010
So, I'm a little late in posting this, but the week has been rather busy (not to mention a badly sprained muscle between 2 ribs!)

Last Monday, my husband and I had to go to the Border at Peace Arch, to show compliance with the conditions set out in my visitor record. Both of us were desperately nervous about this in the days leading up to the trip, but on the actual day, I was calm and confident that everything would be okay. Don't know why, but there you have it.

We'd decided that we'd go down to Bellis Fair Mall, shop for a bit, and then come back up. However, when we got to the US border, the lady in the booth told us that we had to flagpole instead. We were sent into US Immigration, for a form to state that we were flag-poling, to give to the border guard/IO on the Canadian side. Waiting 45 minutes for this form seemed a bit of a joke. At least 30 people in line, and only 2 IO's working, while the rest of them sat and talked between themselves. Right as we got to the front of the line, the lady who'd seen us in the booth came in and started working the desk too. We were lucky enough to get seen by her. It was literally a 5 minute thing and then we were on our way back.

When we arrived back at the Canadian Border at Peace Arch, there was some initial confusion. Apparently, the visitor record in my passport was supposed to have been surrendered before we went to the states. Cue blank stares by myself and my husband. Nobody told us THAT! The border guard showed us where it said that we had to show compliance on the visitor record, and my hubby said 'yeah, we get that, but nobody told us that we had to surrender this before crossing the border and it doesn't say that anywhere on the record.' However, it was no biggie, and into immigration we went. I had my thick file with my copy of my PR application in it, and took great pleasure in setting that down on the counter for the IO to look through. The IO basically asked us where we lived, and whether my husband worked. Then he told us to sit down while he looked through the file.

While we sat, two other IO's joined the one who'd seen us, and they began to look through the file. One friend had said beforehand that she felt sorry for the person who had to go through the file, to which I replied 'I don't! They ask all these questions, they can sit and read my damn answers!' LOL! The IO called my husband up to ask if he smoked pot! ??? Apparently he could smell it on him!! I will state for the record that my husband does not smoke pot! Anwho's .... so, he came and sat back down, and we waited. Ten minutes later, I was called up. I was thinking 'Great, here we go, questions galore.' I was therefore very surprised when the IO told me that he'd given me another visitor record, giving me status for 6 months. At the end of that time if there's been no AIP decision on my application, I can just apply for an extension. No need to go back to the border! Woohooo!!

I've had both good and bad experiences with the IO's at the border, but this visit was the easiest I've ever been through. The IO was polite, asked no funny or misleading questions (Save the pot one on my hubby) and he was straightforward, explaining everything to me. He asked me if I had any questions, and when I said no, he told me to enjoy the rest of my day. I called my hubby over and told him we were done. The look on his face was priceless! We said goodbye to the IO and got the hell outta there!

I guess what I want to say is if you have to do what we did, and go to the border to show proof that your application has been sent, take everything! We took a print out of our entire application, along with a copy of all the proof we sent, along with a copy of all the photos we sent, and all the additional information we sent. Then sit and snicker to yourselves while the IO goes through your file. So long as you can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that your application has been sent (Take your receipts proving that you paid the fees, and sent it off), there are minimal issues. We had no questions asked, the IO's went through our file, and basically wished us a nice day.

It was a HUGE relief nonetheless, and in the end it all worked out just fine!
 
Im glad youve made it.
i live in nanaimo and ive been through Peace Arch many times when i go to the States. . We have been interrogated as well. but its always been easy. ithe last time i had to flagpole and after getting back to the canadian side., They showed us where teh states had showed that they denied us entry!. I was soo soo mad because we clearly told the Americans that we just wanted to flagpole but it got sorted out!.
And then they sat and interrogated us and told us that we didnt even need to flagpole because i had a valid visa!!... argghh..

Anyway am glad yours went smoothly
 
Misplaced Brit said:
So, I'm a little late in posting this, but the week has been rather busy (not to mention a badly sprained muscle between 2 ribs!)

Last Monday, my husband and I had to go to the Border at Peace Arch, to show compliance with the conditions set out in my visitor record. Both of us were desperately nervous about this in the days leading up to the trip, but on the actual day, I was calm and confident that everything would be okay. Don't know why, but there you have it.

We'd decided that we'd go down to Bellis Fair Mall, shop for a bit, and then come back up. However, when we got to the US border, the lady in the booth told us that we had to flagpole instead. We were sent into US Immigration, for a form to state that we were flag-poling, to give to the border guard/IO on the Canadian side. Waiting 45 minutes for this form seemed a bit of a joke. At least 30 people in line, and only 2 IO's working, while the rest of them sat and talked between themselves. Right as we got to the front of the line, the lady who'd seen us in the booth came in and started working the desk too. We were lucky enough to get seen by her. It was literally a 5 minute thing and then we were on our way back.

When we arrived back at the Canadian Border at Peace Arch, there was some initial confusion. Apparently, the visitor record in my passport was supposed to have been surrendered before we went to the states. Cue blank stares by myself and my husband. Nobody told us THAT! The border guard showed us where it said that we had to show compliance on the visitor record, and my hubby said 'yeah, we get that, but nobody told us that we had to surrender this before crossing the border and it doesn't say that anywhere on the record.' However, it was no biggie, and into immigration we went. I had my thick file with my copy of my PR application in it, and took great pleasure in setting that down on the counter for the IO to look through. The IO basically asked us where we lived, and whether my husband worked. Then he told us to sit down while he looked through the file.

While we sat, two other IO's joined the one who'd seen us, and they began to look through the file. One friend had said beforehand that she felt sorry for the person who had to go through the file, to which I replied 'I don't! They ask all these questions, they can sit and read my damn answers!' LOL! The IO called my husband up to ask if he smoked pot! ??? Apparently he could smell it on him!! I will state for the record that my husband does not smoke pot! Anwho's .... so, he came and sat back down, and we waited. Ten minutes later, I was called up. I was thinking 'Great, here we go, questions galore.' I was therefore very surprised when the IO told me that he'd given me another visitor record, giving me status for 6 months. At the end of that time if there's been no AIP decision on my application, I can just apply for an extension. No need to go back to the border! Woohooo!!

I've had both good and bad experiences with the IO's at the border, but this visit was the easiest I've ever been through. The IO was polite, asked no funny or misleading questions (Save the pot one on my hubby) and he was straightforward, explaining everything to me. He asked me if I had any questions, and when I said no, he told me to enjoy the rest of my day. I called my hubby over and told him we were done. The look on his face was priceless! We said goodbye to the IO and got the hell outta there!

I guess what I want to say is if you have to do what we did, and go to the border to show proof that your application has been sent, take everything! We took a print out of our entire application, along with a copy of all the proof we sent, along with a copy of all the photos we sent, and all the additional information we sent. Then sit and snicker to yourselves while the IO goes through your file. So long as you can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that your application has been sent (Take your receipts proving that you paid the fees, and sent it off), there are minimal issues. We had no questions asked, the IO's went through our file, and basically wished us a nice day.

It was a HUGE relief nonetheless, and in the end it all worked out just fine!

Thanks for the info.
 
Glad that, it went all things considered well since you got the record you wanted :)
 
can_usa_97 said:
Glad that, it went all things considered well since you got the record you wanted :)

Thanks. I was terrified that they would refuse me entry back into Canada, specially given that we'd just sent off my application for PR a few days beforehand. But most people we spoke to said that if the IO played by their own rules and regulations, they really couldn't refuse me entry, because we had all the paperwork they wanted to see, and then some.

However, from reading this forum, I'm more than aware that they do like to be kings of their own little castles, and it was up to us to not give them any reason to doubt us. Thankfully it all went fine, and I don't have to go back there again. Thank GOD!
 
Black-Berry said:
Im glad youve made it.
i live in nanaimo and ive been through Peace Arch many times when i go to the States. . We have been interrogated as well. but its always been easy. ithe last time i had to flagpole and after getting back to the canadian side., They showed us where teh states had showed that they denied us entry!. I was soo soo mad because we clearly told the Americans that we just wanted to flagpole but it got sorted out!.
And then they sat and interrogated us and told us that we didnt even need to flagpole because i had a valid visa!!... argghh..

Anyway am glad yours went smoothly

Wow, that sounds crazy!!

On the form that the US side gave us, it said that we had been excluded from refusal of entry because we were just flagpoling. I'll be honest though, some of those forms look straightforward, but when you read them, they make no sense whatsoever. When we got back into the car to flagpole around, I noticed that they'd written my Nationality as Irish, but I'm British lol. Hubby was all for going back inside, but I said not to bother. If they had any doubts at the Canadian Side, I had my passport and my original birth certificate, both of which clearly state that I'm British. As it was, it never even came up.
 
I'm so glad that is part of your journey is over for you Misplaced Brit and you can wait stress-free (and try not to worry) in Canada with your husband while your PR is processed. I hope the rest goes quickly and smoothly! Allison
 
No more stress going to the border , must be a relief for you both ! Hope you partied hard for the week after lol

I wish you a speedy year for good news :D
 
Thanks Allison :D

eyeoftheocean - we partied sooooo hard LOL! On Monday niight, I poured enough antifreeze into my system to last me the entire winter haha. I felt like hell in a handbasket on tuesday lol lol!!

Tonight I'm drinking steadily, but its going down very well lol.
 
So let me get this straight....they call leaving and re-entering for the purpose of just complying with visitor status laws...."flagpoling" ? LOL
 
Hi Misplaced Brit!
I am new to the forum and seemed to have missed the background on your case. My mother was in a similar situation. She visited me in Canada for 6 months and then went to US for a couple of weeks before the expiry of her visa. When she tried to re-enter Canada, the IO gave her a tough time as he said that she has already stayed for 6 months and that is a lot of time. My mother's sponsorship application is in progress for the past 2 years. So, I am wondering if you were able to re-enter Canada for another six months as a visitor just on the basis that your PR is in process? Unfortunately that didn't apply to my mother when she tried to re-enter Canada. Could you please provide more info on flag-polling. Many thanks!
 
Tricky,
it depends what country you are from. Some countries allow you to stay for 6 months CONTINUOUS and some are just 6 months per year. So just make sure you look at the wording carefully.
 
Sithvixen - when we got to the US Border, the lady in the booth looked at the visitor record in my passport and told us that we wouldn't be allowed entry, and had to go into immigration to get a form stating that we were flagpoling. That's exactly what it stated on the form when we finally got out of immigration.

Tricky - Every situation is different, and yeah, it depends what country you're from too. I had a visitor record put into my passport back in July, that basically stated what most of them do - no working or studying, leave Canada by such and such a date, and in mine, it said we had to go back to the border to show compliance on the 25th of October. But the IO who spoke to us in July also wanted us to take proof that we were married, and proof that my PR application had been sent, so when we went back in October we had to take our marriage certificate, photos of the wedding, payment receipt from the PR Application form, and also our receipt that it had been sent, that we got from Canada post.

Along with that, we copied out every single page from my application, including the application form itself, and all of the extra information we sent too. The only thing we didn't take was copies of the various cards we've sent and received over our six year relationship. When we went into Immigration on the Canadian side in October, the IO barely asked us anything. My husband explained our situation, and I had the pleasure of handing over a massive file of paperwork which was my PR application.

He and two other IO's spent 20 minutes looking through it, and then he called me back over, told me that he'd given me a new Visitor Record which leaves me valid till the 24th of April next year, and that if I hadn't gotten a decision on my application by then, I could apply to extend it. That makes no sense to me, because with my PR app being in, I have implied status anyway (Someone correct me if I'm wrong here!)
 
Thanks misplaced Brit. My mom is from India and was issued a similar visitor record as yours- no studying or working allowed but there was nothing about compliance. It said 'must leave caanda by XX date' Perhaps airport authorities work differently from when you cross border via road.