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BigBee

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Oct 10, 2013
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It matters when you apply for TWP, LMO should be valid at the time of TWP application, it doesnt matter if it expires by the time you enter Canada.

Make sure you enter Canada immediately after you get TWP, else, you need to have a strong reason for any delay (delay more than 1 month)

Good luck.
 

fkl

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Apr 25, 2013
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BigBee said:
It matters when you apply for TWP, LMO should be valid at the time of TWP application, it doesnt matter if it expires by the time you enter Canada.

Make sure you enter Canada immediately after you get TWP, else, you need to have a strong reason for any delay (delay more than 1 month)

Good luck.
I second the first part of what BigBee said. As long as your LMO was valid WHEN your application was received at the embassy for wp and processed latter, it's fine. This has been the case with me, my app was returned multiple times stating it incomplete although the website stated incorrect requirements, final correct submission was near april end, LMO expired in june, then some delays due to further evaluations like extended medicals and finally got visas in nov.

BigBee,

I am not sure about the last part. Why would delay be an issue as long as your visa is valid? i.e. it only states you have to enter before its expiry. Also if more than a year has passed, you have to redo medicals. Other than that, one concern on a twp could be that whether your job is still valid, which can be addressed if you get a fresh letter from employer.

If CIC delays processes indefinitely, they shouldn't expect people to just jump off the cliff :) People have to resign from work places, serve notice periods, make arrangements travel etc. Often this takes 2 months or more. At least the employer nor lawyer showed any concern in my case as well as another colleagues. Both us got visas late nov, and won't be travelling before mid / end January.

In case you have seen any documentary reference / insight into this, i would appreciate that.

By the way, what is your profession, just curious based upon our interaction so far.

Thanks
 

BigBee

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fkl said:
I second the first part of what BigBee said. As long as your LMO was valid WHEN your application was received at the embassy for wp and processed latter, it's fine. This has been the case with me, my app was returned multiple times stating it incomplete although the website stated incorrect requirements, final correct submission was near april end, LMO expired in june, then some delays due to further evaluations like extended medicals and finally got visas in nov.

BigBee,

I am not sure about the last part. Why would delay be an issue as long as your visa is valid? i.e. it only states you have to enter before its expiry. Also if more than a year has passed, you have to redo medicals. Other than that, one concern on a twp could be that whether your job is still valid, which can be addressed if you get a fresh letter from employer.

If CIC delays processes indefinitely, they shouldn't expect people to just jump off the cliff :) People have to resign from work places, serve notice periods, make arrangements travel etc. Often this takes 2 months or more. At least the employer nor lawyer showed any concern in my case as well as another colleagues. Both us got visas late nov, and won't be travelling before mid / end January.

In case you have seen any documentary reference / insight into this, i would appreciate that.

By the way, what is your profession, just curious based upon our interaction so far.

Thanks
FKL... ;D Let me correct my statement a bit, any delay in travel AFTER you get you TWP would matter (particularly for first time Canada traveller), it would raise doubts on whether you still have a valid offer on hand (this could be addressed with a latest employment letter from the employer who has initiated the LMO).

My experience and the experiences I know from rest of the first time travellers have been like the Immigration officer (on your bad day) would most likely look whether you are a genuine immigrant intending to work. In 90% cases, you would be lucky and will not have any issues entering Canada, but I for one who doesnt like any complication with legal things like this, hence the advice.

The advice is more from my view and my perception rather than any legal procedure or process.

P.S - Why would one want to delay their travel once you get your TWP (delay up to 8 weeks are understandable, beyond that is always questionable). If you know you are getting your TWP, why do you want delay your resignation with your current employer.....

P.P.S - Fkl... what do you think my profession would be??? :p
 

fkl

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BigBee said:
FKL... ;D Let me correct my statement a bit, any delay in travel AFTER you get you TWP would matter (particularly for first time Canada traveller), it would raise doubts on whether you still have a valid offer on hand (this could be addressed with a latest employment letter from the employer who has initiated the LMO).

My experience and the experiences I know from rest of the first time travellers have been like the Immigration officer (on your bad day) would most likely look whether you are a genuine immigrant intending to work. In 90% cases, you would be lucky and will not have any issues entering Canada, but I for one who doesnt like any complication with legal things like this, hence the advice.

The advice is more from my view and my perception rather than any legal procedure or process.

P.S - Why would one want to delay their travel once you get your TWP (delay up to 8 weeks are understandable, beyond that is always questionable). If you know you are getting your TWP, why do you want delay your resignation with your current employer.....

P.P.S - Fkl... what do you think my profession would be??? :p
Em.. you would delay your resignation until you get the visa, specially when visas are soo.. uncertain and take a long time to process. It is pretty often that some bigger organizations might require a notice period of up to 2 months. Then you need arrangements for travelling and not necessarily would get a ticket in a nice price for the exact date you are free to leave from work. I understand the rest. Getting a renewed offer letter is already important for me since even if leave the next day after receiving visa, my original offer is already like 10 months old. So one can still wonder if the job still holds.

No hint about your profession, since there hasnt been any discussion on this so far.
 

noobmoon

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I receive my temp visa in December and am planing to enter canada in Mid February.
Do I need to ask another letter from my employer stating that the job offer is valid?
I already discuss this with Fkl :)
 

BigBee

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noobmoon said:
I receive my temp visa in December and am planing to enter canada in Mid February.
Do I need to ask another letter from my employer stating that the job offer is valid?
I already discuss this with Fkl :)
Well, its always good to have an offer letter that hasnt expired, so, if you are travelling by mid feb and the offer letter is still valid, then you are good.

Good luck.
 

BigBee

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fkl said:
Em.. you would delay your resignation until you get the visa, specially when visas are soo.. uncertain and take a long time to process. It is pretty often that some bigger organizations might require a notice period of up to 2 months. Then you need arrangements for travelling and not necessarily would get a ticket in a nice price for the exact date you are free to leave from work. I understand the rest. Getting a renewed offer letter is already important for me since even if leave the next day after receiving visa, my original offer is already like 10 months old. So one can still wonder if the job still holds.

No hint about your profession, since there hasnt been any discussion on this so far.
Good luck with your travel and the offer letter, I do get the stress of waiting for VISA and hesitating on resigning as I did go through that phase and had a horrid time. I am an IT consultant. ;D
 

Jowiesol

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Nov 17, 2013
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Hi guys,what if we can wait for new lmo,how long does it take,cause my employer want sure answer coming from cic,but we have already email cic,and then i received automated reply stating wait for 28 days but if they dont response the answer of my problems its on they link...im so confused
 

cee12345

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Jowiesol said:
Hi guys,what if we can wait for new lmo,how long does it take,cause my employer want sure answer coming from cic,but we have already email cic,and then i received automated reply stating wait for 28 days but if they dont response the answer of my problems its on they link...im so confused
LMO is only required to support your Work Permit application.
You will not need that at the airport.
They will only ask for your letter of approval for the work permit and your offer letter
Then the IO will issue you a work permit.
 

NetMecca

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Hi

1. : CIC will not be able to answer questions on your LMO. This is something your employer has to resolve with HRSDC.
2. : The LMO validity at the time of entry is of no consequence if a work permit has already been issued. Essentially you will not be able to get a work permit without having had a valid LMO when you applied.
3. : If your work permit has expired, only then will you be required to get a new LMO. (in order to apply for a new work permit) (if you have been working already in Canada you may be able to extend your work permit without a new LMO)

Unfortunately LMOs are somewhat unpredictable, especially since they could fail. If all goes right it would take at least 3 months, likely longer. This will significantly depend on your employer's drive to get it done.

Regarding delays and job offers. Most TWP job offer letters have dates stated on them (from -- to---) regarding validity. Your work permit would have been issued based on those dates, and so I would be surprised if you have any issues with this. For your own benefit though I would make sure that your offer does still stand before leaving (after a delay) since you do not want to arrive and not actually have a job...

In addition though if your starting date has been stated before your arrival date (by any significant margin) this may raise some questions, especially since for most employees there is a probationary period, under which an employer could dismiss you without cause.

When considering your situation, and preparing your documentation for entry, just make sure that the timelines make sense. Don't arrive 3 months after your starting date, without something to confirm your retention of your TWP earning job. Even if this is the case, realise that Border services in Canada are not unreasonable, and this should be possible to resolve, if your offer is still valid and remains active.

I also have to wonder about the waiting and delaying thing?. Admittedly if you have gone to the trouble of making this somewhat challenging thing happen, why are you waiting? Get on up and get here.....

Good luck.. :)
 

Jowiesol

Newbie
Nov 17, 2013
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NetMecca said:
Hi

1. : CIC will not be able to answer questions on your LMO. This is something your employer has to resolve with HRSDC.
2. : The LMO validity at the time of entry is of no consequence if a work permit has already been issued. Essentially you will not be able to get a work permit without having had a valid LMO when you applied.
3. : If your work permit has expired, only then will you be required to get a new LMO. (in order to apply for a new work permit) (if you have been working already in Canada you may be able to extend your work permit without a new LMO)

Unfortunately LMOs are somewhat unpredictable, especially since they could fail. If all goes right it would take at least 3 months, likely longer. This will significantly depend on your employer's drive to get it done.

Regarding delays and job offers. Most TWP job offer letters have dates stated on them (from -- to---) regarding validity. Your work permit would have been issued based on those dates, and so I would be surprised if you have any issues with this. For your own benefit though I would make sure that your offer does still stand before leaving (after a delay) since you do not want to arrive and not actually have a job...

In addition though if your starting date has been stated before your arrival date (by any significant margin) this may raise some questions, especially since for most employees there is a probationary period, under which an employer could dismiss you without cause.

When considering your situation, and preparing your documentation for entry, just make sure that the timelines make sense. Don't arrive 3 months after your starting date, without something to confirm your retention of your TWP earning job. Even if this is the case, realise that Border services in Canada are not unreasonable, and this should be possible to resolve, if your offer is still valid and remains active.

I also have to wonder about the waiting and delaying thing?. Admittedly if you have gone to the trouble of making this somewhat challenging thing happen, why are you waiting? Get on up and get here.....

Good luck.. :)

Thanks for the info,very much appreciated
 

Jackal

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Dec 16, 2013
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Hey noobmoon

How did u find the employer and job in Canada?
And where r u from?
I am also searching and applying job
But there are no replies.