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Listing all trips taken in the last 10 years & Proof of intent to return?

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I am having trouble remembering exact dates of trips/ holidays I have taken in the last 10 years in total, mostly the ones that I have taken just to European destinations (no passport stamps to remind me) and also work business trips I have taken (also to Europe mostly)
How important is it that these are ALL noted on the form?

Also, on the sponsor questionnaire (IMM5440) form, Q11 – “Please provide proof of your intention to re-establish...”
Can we just write that I am going to be getting a job and we plan to move in with her family while we look for somewhere to live and then also that she plans to go back to college and study or get a job once we are there? We don't have any of the documents that they are asking for, for my wife the sponsor.

Also, I think I have a cousin somewhere in Canada, but I have no idea where (we are not close family). Do I have to find out where she is an list her? She doesn't have the same family name or anything like that as our fathers were only half brothers (if that helps)

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Creampop

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When I listed all my trips I couldn't remember exact dates either.. I just wrote approximate dates like month and year. I don't know if it has caused any problems but I had a request for the right of permanent residence fee and no other documents were requested so I'm taking that as a good sign. Your wife must prove your intention to relocate to Canada there are lots of things you can get to show this... A letter from her parents saying that you will be living with them while getting on your feet, Letters from friends and other family members saying that know of your intention to move to Canada once your PR process is complete. Copies of e-mails where you or your wife have inquired about employment, like from job banks etc... copies of quotes for having your belongings sent to Canada, e-mail inquiries about rental properties. Anything she might have from looking into more schooling or job training programs. the age of the internet makes getting these kinds of things alot easier. As for your cousin I assume you are asking this cus it asks do you have any family in Canada, I don't think it would be a problem if you didn't include her as she is not immediate family. Immediate family used in rules or laws to determine which members of a person's family are affected by those rules. It normally includes a person's parents, spouses, siblings and children.
 

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Thank you for the response. I will leave the details of my cousin off the form then.
As for the intent stuff, I will ask my wife to start getting stuff from her family showing that they know we want to move back and a letter from her parents stating we can live there for a while if we need to.

Are emails okay for this, and will it be okay if they are very recent in terms of dated from between now and when we apply?
 

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Creampop's list is very thorough. The only thing I would add is that you detail everything you plan on doing in the first days / weeks after you arrive in Canada. You might also mention things like purchasing health insurance (90 days) until you can get provincial coverage. As long as you show a detailed plan with supporting evidence, the chances of the visa officer questioning your intention to return to Canada is remote.

I've been living abroad since 2001 and I provided the following:

1. Job offer (with company stamp - signed by both parties);
2. E-mail correspondence with mortgage specialists and realtors enquiring about the purchase of property;
3. Letters from my family saying we can stay with them until we sort out our housing arrangements;
4. Letters from other family members and friends stating they know we are relocating to Canada; and
5. A 4.5 page detailed account of everything we need to do to separate from China and start again in Canada.

My wife received an AOR from the Hong Kong visa office on July 25 (file transferred from CIC-M on July 13). PPR letter was sent to my wife on August 28 and e-cas updated on August 30 showing 'in process'. No other additional documents were ever requested (if the visa officer had questions, I don't think he/she would have sent the PPR). So, I take it that what I submitted was enough to convince the visa officer of my intention to return to Canada.

Good luck!

FS
 

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Fencesitter said:
Creampop's list is very thorough. The only thing I would add is that you detail everything you plan on doing in the first days / weeks after you arrive in Canada. You might also mention things like purchasing health insurance (90 days) until you can get provincial coverage. As long as you show a detailed plan with supporting evidence, the chances of the visa officer questioning your intention to return to Canada is remote.

I've been living abroad since 2001 and I provided the following:

1. Job offer (with company stamp - signed by both parties);
2. E-mail correspondence with mortgage specialists and realtors enquiring about the purchase of property;
3. Letters from my family saying we can stay with them until we sort out our housing arrangements;
4. Letters from other family members and friends stating they know we are relocating to Canada; and
5. A 4.5 page detailed account of everything we need to do to separate from China and start again in Canada.

My wife received an AOR from the Hong Kong visa office on July 25 (file transferred from CIC-M on July 13). PPR letter was sent to my wife on August 28 and e-cas updated on August 30 showing 'in process'. No other additional documents were ever requested (if the visa officer had questions, I don't think he/she would have sent the PPR). So, I take it that what I submitted was enough to convince the visa officer of my intention to return to Canada.

Good luck!

FS
Thank you, with regards to the points you have listed, I have added notes below do these make sense?

1. Job offer (with company stamp - signed by both parties); - At present it will only be me with a job offer as I am currently waiting for this from my company will that be okay?
2. E-mail correspondence with mortgage specialists and realtors enquiring about the purchase of property; - We haven't done this, we plan to rent once we find somewhere after we do number 3 below for a month or two
3. Letters from my family saying we can stay with them until we sort out our housing arrangements; - As above
4. Letters from other family members and friends stating they know we are relocating to Canada; and - I can get these, will it matter if they are from now onwards (as in we don't have any yet, so can we ask them to write these now)
5. A 4.5 page detailed account of everything we need to do to separate from China and start again in Canada. - What sort of things did you say in this? Surely the fact that we plan to move and I am gaining employment there is detail enough? We plan to bring the pets over and start a family there when we get there
 

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1. Yes, you should be fine.

2. If you don't plan on buying, you could still check on places where you want to rent. Include addresses and contact information. Try to get something in writing from the property management.

3. Just get letters stating you can stay with family...should be enough.

4. Doesn't matter. The main thing is to show that others know of your plans to return to Canada.

5. Everything. I went into a lot of detail (Day 1: blah blah blah...Day 2: blah blah blah...and so on). Mostly I spoke about the main things we need to do, like: purchase new furniture, buy a car, get our health insurance sorted, SIN card for my wife, meet with my future employer, where our son is going to go for school, where we will live if we can't secure a mortgage, purchase of cell phones so we can stay in contact in case of emergency, mention that I am a registered student at a Canadian university, pet relocation for our dogs, etc...etc...It ended up being 4.5 pages single spaced. I emphasized how badly I want to go home and how I am tired of living as an expat on yearly visas (more so because now I have a son and we need a secure place to raise him - better education, health care, food quality, etc...etc...). I also prepared an additional document that is 5 pages long outlining more evidence (signed pet relocation contract with paid deposit, exit permit for our son so he can freely leave China, shipping quotations, airfare quotations, schooling for our son, and so on - I never sent this because they didn't request anything further - they only wanted my wife's passport).

After reading what I wrote, I am sure the visa officer must have realized that I am very serious about this whole thing. I made that very clear in the way I worded it.

Overwhelm them with evidence and details and they will know you are sincere. If you just write a few short paragraphs they may question it. I mentioned this before, but imagine you are the prosecutor. You must prove your case beyond a reasonable doubt. It's the same thing with your proof of intention.

Good luck!

FS
 

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About the cousin: I would list her. If you don't know her full name and address in Canada, and can't get it from relatives, just write what you do know and explain that the relationship is not close, you don't know and can't find out where she lives, and you have not seen or heard from her in ... years.
It is no disadvantage to have a distant relative in Canada. So there is no reason to omit the info. One forum member had her PR rejected because she did not list a similarily unknown relative who lived in Canada (her aunt, I think). The visa officer found out and she was denied for misrepresentation. There is no reason for this: just mention the cousin.
 

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I can understand your points as far as misrepresentation. but how is this misrepresentation? she's the child of a half uncle, this is not really family(other then meetings @ family functions growing up), they would even be allowed to marry (eww i know) but... I am not saying including her or excluding her would have an impact on his file either way, just that she is not even close enough in relations to worry about...
 

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Fencesitter said:
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Good luck!

FS
Thank you for the detailed response it is much appreciated, I will start gathering and writing all of this up ASAP

canadianwoman said:
... There is no reason for this: just mention the cousin.
Thanks, this is good to know, I may be able to find out, last I heard she was somewhere in Toronto, If I can't get more specific than that, I will just add what I can with some notes.

Thanks again for all the help, I'm sure I will be back with more questions soon! :)