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Lengthening the PR Process and Waiting to Activate the Permanent Residency Visa?

YYCNomad

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I doubt that my query is specific to the Canadian Experience Class immigration program, but since that is the program that I am considering applying under, I'm asking it here.

Let's say that someone who wishes to apply for permanent residency wants to, for whatever reason, draw the application process out as long as possible. Let's further assume that this applicant is a US citizen.

To that end, it appears, based on published data and comments contained in this forum, that the standard time period from submitting one's application to getting the PR visa issued is in the 10 to 15 month time period (give or take). I presume that this time period is based upon the applicant submitting documents and getting a medical exam done soon after being requested to do so. By my rough calculation, I figure that one could draw out the application process by around 2-3 months beyond what it would normally take (by waiting until the last possible week to get the medical exam done, for example).

It is my understanding that, once granted, the permanent residency visa is only valid for, and must be "activated" (for lack of a better word) within, 1 year from the date that the applicant's medical exam was taken (or the results were submitted; I'm not sure which, but I don't think the difference is particularly substantive).

So, assume that an applicant's permanent residency application--because they are drawing out the process and waited until the last minute to get the medical exam done--takes around 18 months before the visa is issued. Assuming that the visa was issued 6 months after the date the medical exam was taken (i.e., the medicals were done at month 12), it would appear that the applicant could have until month 24 (i.e., 6 months after month 18) to activate the visa and become a permanent resident, correct?

Regardless of the answer to that question, can the applicant, upon being granted the permanent residency visa, go in and out of Canada (whether to the USA or elsewhere) without officially "landing" and activating the permanent residency visa? Or does the visa become automatically activated (and the applicant automatically "land") upon their first re-entry into Canada, even if the applicant doesn't wish to officially land at that time?
 

cecbear

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If you only go to the USA, you can come back on your work permit, so technically and probably you can come back without using your PR visa.

If you go to any other countries, you'll need a visa to come back. Unless you have another non-PR visa, you'll need to use the PR visa.

If you have both PR and non-PR visas at the same time, I don't know if you can choose to use one of them.
 

YYCNomad

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cecbear said:
If you only go to the USA, you can come back on your work permit, so technically and probably you can come back without using your PR visa.

If you go to any other countries, you'll need a visa to come back. Unless you have another non-PR visa, you'll need to use the PR visa.
I'm not sure that I follow.

Why couldn't the applicant, upon flying to, say, Australia, use their work permit to re-enter Canada? Is the work permit included in your phrase "another non-PR visa"?

Or, for that matter, depending on the timing and how long the applicant was in Canada during that year, if the work permit has expired, why couldn't the applicant (being a US citizen) enter Canada on a tourist, then leave, and then re-enter using the PR visa?

I'm merely wondering how "limited" the applicant is in terms of travelling in and out of Canada upon receiving the PR visa, if the applicant doesn't want to use the PR visa.
 

htrak

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cecbear said:
If you have both PR and non-PR visas at the same time, I don't know if you can choose to use one of them.
I may be wrong, but I think while issuing a visa for PR landing process, they would cancel the other existing visas.
 

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YYCNomad said:
Regardless of the answer to that question, can the applicant, upon being granted the permanent residency visa, go in and out of Canada (whether to the USA or elsewhere) without officially "landing" and activating the permanent residency visa? Or does the visa become automatically activated (and the applicant automatically "land") upon their first re-entry into Canada, even if the applicant doesn't wish to officially land at that time?
You don't have to land on your first entry to Canada. There have been members of this forum who have successfully entered Canada with a PR visa without landing (and then landed at a future date). However if you are traveling in and out of Canada frequently, I don't know how long you could put off landing (i.e. if immigration will allow you do do this indefinitely or eventually force you to land). The examples we've seen on this forum are all situations where a person entered Canada once without landing but then landed on the subsequent visit. So the short answer is - I don't think anyone here has done what you are proposing and it's therefore difficult to say what the outcome might be.
 

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htrak said:
I may be wrong, but I think while issuing a visa for PR landing process, they would cancel the other existing visas.
When you land, your other visas are cancelled automatically, as a PR or citizen cannot hold a visa. That's why the PR visa in non visa-exempt national passports is a single use.
 

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Interesting,
in relation to this discussion I have a following question.
What if I already have a multiple entry visa (currently working and living in Canada), which I just got since I was planning to travel.
And while I do have the visa, will CIC still ask me for my passport to put another visa there? seems redundant.
Decision has been made on my case, so I assume PPR is in the near future, unless somehow CIC already knows that I got a visa, and will skip that part.
if anyone has any idea, please share,



zardoz said:
When you land, your other visas are cancelled automatically, as a PR or citizen cannot hold a visa. That's why the PR visa in non visa-exempt national passports is a single use.
 

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sherych said:
Interesting,
in relation to this discussion I have a following question.
What if I already have a multiple entry visa (currently working and living in Canada), which I just got since I was planning to travel.
And while I do have the visa, will CIC still ask me for my passport to put another visa there? seems redundant.
Decision has been made on my case, so I assume PPR is in the near future, unless somehow CIC already knows that I got a visa, and will skip that part.
if anyone has any idea, please share,
The Visa which you have on your passport rightnow is Temporary Visa with status as Worker (or) Student (or) Visitor Status

But CIC will request your Passport to Stamp Permanent Resident Visa as an "Immigrant". I guess its valid for 5 Years or till your Passport Expiry (if its expiries within 5 years).

Hope this helps
 

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Thank you, it does.
I was just wondering about it, since there is a bulletin for people from Visa-Exempt countries, and for them the visa stamping isn't required.
So I though perhaps once a person has a visa, it makes him almost equal to a person from a visa exempt country.
But I guess not. Thank you so much for this information! I'll patiently wait for the passport request.....


honeysingh said:
The Visa which you have on your passport rightnow is Temporary Visa with status as Worker (or) Student (or) Visitor Status

But CIC will request your Passport to Stamp Permanent Resident Visa as an "Immigrant". I guess its valid for 5 Years or till your Passport Expiry (if its expiries within 5 years).

Hope this helps
 

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Once you land, your PR card takes the place of a visa to re-enter Canada. This is why visa nationals have to obtain a PR Travel Document if they don't have a valid PR card when they need to board a flight back to Canada. I understand that at that point, any visa that was in the passport has already been canceled, which is why they can't use it to get back. Someone correct me if I have misunderstood.
 

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YYCNomad is an american applicant. Thus, he is in a visa-exempt countries.
He can come anytime to Canada without landing but rather as a tourist.
He will not be required any VISA LABEL on his passport but upon approval of his PR he will only be given a COPR.
If he wants to land then he can show his COPR and if not, he can come as a tourist.
Hope that helps.