Just receiving my new PR card is helpful to avoid RQ of citizenship application?

[superfellow]

Finally I just got my new PR card a couple of days ago after 1 year waiting and RQ, and I am planning to submit in my citizenship application immediately. Not sure in my case, is it hardly possible to get RQ once again? My resident time has met the requirement.

 

[samreentariq]

Finally I just got my new PR card a couple of days ago after 1 year waiting and RQ, and I am planning to submit in my citizenship application immediately. Not sure in my case, is it hardly possible to get RQ once again? My resident time has met the requirement.

It is hard to say what one can do to avoid RQ, if it meant to be be it will happen. The best advice is follow the guidelines and submit the requested documents and not too many things extra. Just to confirm though I am guessing your PR card was close to expiry so you re-applied to get a new PR card?

 

[era1521]

Finally I just got my new PR card a couple of days ago after 1 year waiting and RQ, and I am planning to submit in my citizenship application immediately. Not sure in my case, is it hardly possible to get RQ once again? My resident time has met the requirement.

Did you get RQ for PR renewal? Do you realize CIC had concerns that you have lived less than 2 yrs out of last 5. Could you elaborate on your case/dates?

 

[blueshirt]

if one gets RQ in PR renewal the probability of getting RQ for citizenship application is very high. Most of the cases I know from my friends and family is that RQ is issued in citizenship application if one was flagged in PR renewal application. But nothing to worry if you have all the documentations to support your presence. Most case RQs are now processed fast and wait time is less.

 

[superfellow]

It is hard to say what one can do to avoid RQ, if it meant to be be it will happen. The best advice is follow the guidelines and submit the requested documents and not too many things extra. Just to confirm though I am guessing your PR card was close to expiry so you re-applied to get a new PR card?

Actually my previous card expired 2 years ago (2013) and that's why I applied to renew it in 2014, and then got it last month.

 

[superfellow]

Did you get RQ for PR renewal? Do you realize CIC had concerns that you have lived less than 2 yrs out of last 5. Could you elaborate on your case/dates?

Yes, I got, and finally passed it successfully. So I am not sure if CIC will issue a RQ once again as it's not necessarily after they have checked my all resident docs within processing my pr renewal application?

 

[era1521]

Yes, I got, and finally passed it successfully. So I am not sure if CIC will issue a RQ once again as it's not necessarily after they have checked my all resident docs within processing my pr renewal application?

Its hard to guess what is your situation; what exactly you passed? You mentioned your card expired in 2013, you applied for renewal (?) in 2014 and got it last month.

 

[dpenabill]

Finally I just got my new PR card a couple of days ago after 1 year waiting and RQ, and I am planning to submit in my citizenship application immediately. Not sure in my case, is it hardly possible to get RQ once again? My resident time has met the requirement.

It is possible to be issued RQ in the processing of a citizenship application even though the applicant was issued RQ in the course of processing an application for a new PR card.

It is difficult to predict who will be issued RQ. It is obvious that a high percentage of applicants issued RQ were nonetheless qualified. Thus, all applicants should be prepared for getting RQ in case it happens.

Of course some applicants know there are circumstances in their case which increase the risk or probability of being issued RQ. Many of those who follow citizenship residency cases are familiar with a large range of factors which may be considered by CIC as a reason-to-question-residency, including all those explicitly listed as reasons to question residency in a 2005 Operational Bulletin (long ago expired, but retained as an appendix in the CP Residence Operational Manual until this past year, and while no longer specifically followed it is highly likely the same factors are, in one way or another, still relevant), and including the triage criteria listed in the File Requirements Checklist (most current copy I have seen was from summer 2012; we know the criteria has been modified and clarified since then, but again the same criteria most likely apply although how they are interpreted and applied has changed, the details of which we do not know). And of course there are concerns and questions CIC focuses on in cases taken to the Federal Court, at the least suggesting CIC also focuses on those issues in its screening processes. Finally there are anecdotal reports, which are not particularly reliable in terms of identifying the why RQ was issued but they can illuminate CIC's approach in some respects (example: in 2010 and 2011, the anecdotal reports indicated CIC was issuing RQ to many applicants who had work permits for working in the U.S. or in the Middle East).

There are some obvious, almost-certain triggers for RQ. Like applying with less than 1095 days actual physical presence. Like having had an application for citizenship previously withdrawn or denied. Like having a red flag for potential residency issues in FOSS.

Beyond those, however, even knowing as much as can be discerned about who, how, why, when, and so on, relative to CIC's approach to deciding who is issued RQ, it is nearly impossible to predict who will be issued RQ.

Any applicant can be issued RQ. Most are not.

While it is possible to avoid some of the more obvious risk factors, overall what matters is whether the applicant's case involves a factor which triggers RQ or not. If so, RQ is issued. There is little if anything the applicant can do to avoid RQ if such a factor applies to the applicant.



Relation to PR card application:

Since there are some significant differences in fact involved, positive resolution of RQ in the PR card process does not dictate whether or not CIC will issue RQ in a citizenship application process.

For example: if you applied for the PR card in February 2014, the relevant time period was February 2009 to February 2014. A positive result depended on showing > 730 days presence in Canada during that period, again between February 2009 to February 2014.

If you apply for citizenship this month, the relevant time period is March 2011 to March 2015, during which you must show presence in Canada for at least 1095 days.

The difference is quite substantial.

In the course of processing your citizenship application, we do not know for certain to what extent CIC might revisit the residency assessment done in the course of processing your PR card application. It probably does. Given the differences involved, though, the positive outcome of the PR residency assessment will not guarantee that there is no RQ for the citizenship application.

 

[SenoritaBella]

As you complete your citizenship application, I would cross check what you wrote on the PR card renewal application and RQ (e.g. absences, employment, studies, etc) with what you've written on the citizenship application to ensure they are consistent.

 

[jhjeppe]

Finally I just got my new PR card a couple of days ago after 1 year waiting and RQ, and I am planning to submit in my citizenship application immediately. Not sure in my case, is it hardly possible to get RQ once again? My resident time has met the requirement.

RQ's have no triggers or causes (despite what they might tell you)

These are issue purely by chance at random. This is a delaying tactic to decrease the severe backlog...

I don't care what anyone says... There is no reason to issue an RQ to thousands of people who have presented absolutely no trigger for an RQ...

It is a simple fact...

 

[SenoritaBella]

How do you know the "thousands of people have presented absolutely no trigger for an RQ" without personally reviewing these people files?

CIC has triage criteria (e.g. self-employment, frequent travel, Identity documents issued within 3 months of the application, etc) and ofcourse there is also quality assurance (where it is random).

Why would CIC issue more RQs which makes the applications non-routine (and takes longer), if they are trying to reduce a backlog? To reduce a backlog, it makes more sense to process applications faster(? hire more officers, streamline the process). The process has been simplified as of August 1, 2014 (gone from 3 steps to 1). In fact, search the forum for those who have received RQs in recent times, their processing has been going faster.

While RQs are not pleasant, they remain a necessary evil (so to speak), because some applicants decided to cheat the system (residence fraud) so we are all paying the price.

RQ's have no triggers or causes (despite what they might tell you)

These are issue purely by chance at random. This is a delaying tactic to decrease the severe backlog...

I don't care what anyone says... There is no reason to issue an RQ to thousands of people who have presented absolutely no trigger for an RQ...

It is a simple fact...

 

[rojjj]

i applied for pr card renewal in sept 2012
got rq in oct 2012
send all the documents in nov 2012 (my file is in toronto)

i called the call center to know how long it will take , they told me there's no time frame for rq.
usually how long should it take QR for PR ? is it the same as the qr for citizenship ??
plz do somebody have an answer ?

 

[thecoolguysam]

i applied for pr card renewal in sept 2012
got rq in oct 2012
send all the documents in nov 2012 (my file is in toronto)

i called the call center to know how long it will take , they told me there's no time frame for rq.
usually how long should it take QR for PR ? is it the same as the qr for citizenship ??
plz do somebody have an answer ?

was it a residence questionnaire or what exactly was the title of the RQ? What was the name of the RQ document?

I think PR RQ and Citizenship RQs are different.

 

[rojjj]

its all about residence information. the title was "Determination of permanent resident status"